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Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: marie_231 on June 24, 2004, 04:26:12 PM
i really cant believe this , i have a 4 month old male  working cocker , called benson , he's my baby , friends of ours have a lakeland terrier who has just came into her 1st season they actually had the audacity to ask us to allow benson to mate with her  :shock: omg he hasnt even tried to hump anything yet , even if he did show willing i am so shocked that people can even think like that , especially when you look on the dog rescue forums and see the amount of damage done by irresponsible breeding , are people really this stupid ?                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on June 24, 2004, 05:09:40 PM
OMG what idiots    :shock: GRRR!!! its made me sooo angry reading that.  :evil: Yep your right they are stupid. Why on earth do they want to breed from a cocker and Lakeland in the first place??
I feel so sorry for that little bitch, shes only a baby herself. :(                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: bluesmum on June 24, 2004, 05:15:19 PM
Hi Marie,

I'm so sorry for you that your friend put you in such a position that you had to say no to such a ridiculous suggestion! :roll:

Did she tell you her reasons for wanting to mate this poor baby? Alot of people are sadly under the illusion that a bitch must have a litter for her own well being before getting spayed - if this is the case are you good enough friends with her to talk to her about it and tell her that this is a myth and the best thing for her little girlie would be to have her spayed and let her enjoy her life with her family, breeding should be left to the people who know what they are doing and an inexperienced breeder could well be putting her bitch and any puppies in danger!                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: Laura on June 24, 2004, 05:15:57 PM
some people just amaze me :?  Am sure it is ignorance a lot of the time - but it is the poor dogs that pay the price :( .....GRRRRRRR Oh it makes me mad!!!

I have had Bailey 3 days now. With 2 male PET cockers I have already lost count of the amount of people that insist I should now get a female to go with them to get my money back :x                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: Sheila on June 24, 2004, 05:18:19 PM
It seems like there are a lot of people who still need educating about dogs and proper breeding :roll:                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: lizzy on June 24, 2004, 05:42:19 PM
Hi Marie,

I'm quite gobsmacked at your friends suggestion, at least you have the good sense to see how ridiculous she's being, it just makes me sad that some people just see dog breeding as a bit of a laugh, something to do, not  really thinking about the welfare of the mum or her pups, where they will end up and what will happen to them.

Rescue centre have a tough as it is without people like that just adding to the pressure :x

Lizzy Molly and Evie                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: marie_231 on June 24, 2004, 09:07:50 PM
dont believe this , have just spoken to :friend : and they actually let this litle girl out on her own this afternoon at the park and a gsd seems to have been very friendly with her  :shock:  :shock: , im sorry , i dont believe people are this stupid and am heading for an arguement by the looks of things                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: Cob-Web on June 24, 2004, 09:35:04 PM
Oh Marie this makes me so mad  - and I am really sad for their little girlie :cry:

Where did they get their bitch from? Is she pedigree?  A reputable breeder or the local breed club would be horrified to hear one of their pups was being treated like this, wouldn't they?

These people should be 'banned' from keeping dogs; cant they be prosecuted for neglect or cruelty?                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: Laura on June 24, 2004, 10:56:30 PM
This is very unfair and isn't just ignorance but sheer stupidity!!  Some people shouldn't have a dog    :x

This is also how dog fights start out on a walk - selfish :x  Never mind the outcome for this poor girl :cry:                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: Pipers Mummy on June 25, 2004, 08:16:59 AM
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dont believe this , have just spoken to :friend : and they actually let this litle girl out on her own this afternoon at the park and a gsd seems to have been very friendly with her  :shock:  :shock: , im sorry , i dont believe people are this stupid and am heading for an arguement by the looks of things


Marie - I'm confused  :?   What is their reasoning behind wanting to mate their little girl with any old Tom, Dick or Harry???  What they are doing is pure madness  :twisted:                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: cbabe on June 25, 2004, 09:46:56 AM
What planet are these people on??? and what do they intend on doing with the puppies???

I hope they haven't fallen into that trap where friends have said they will have one. They never comethrough in the end!

Idiots! Give them my email and i'll tell them myself!                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on June 25, 2004, 09:49:06 AM
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dont believe this , have just spoken to :friend : and they actually let this litle girl out on her own this afternoon at the park and a gsd seems to have been very friendly with her  :shock:  :shock: , im sorry , i dont believe people are this stupid and am heading for an arguement by the looks of things

OMG a GSD with a little Lakeland.  :shock:  So do they realise that this little one may have to have a C section  if a mating has taken place.
The pups will be far too big to have a normal delivery.
As for letting her loose on her own,  :shock:  Ive been there when poor bitches have been brought into rescue, suffering from complete exhaustion.  :(
This has made me sooo angry!!!  :evil:                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: bluesmum on June 25, 2004, 10:04:05 AM
My original post Marie was to give this person the benefit of the doubt, thinking mabe they had been wrongly advised, which sadly does happen :(  but from your second post Marie your friend comes across as totally irresponsible and if she were a friend of mine I would be reporting her to the dog warden and terminating any frienship we had! :evil:                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: JoHarborne on June 25, 2004, 10:38:20 AM
I know I'm really new to this Forum and have only been a proud dog owner for a little over two weeks - but I'm really against dogs being bred outside of their breed.  And don't even get me started on people breeding with no experience or knowledge!!  I was always under the impression that Heinz 57s came about because of accidents rather than people deliberately picking any old two dogs and saying "let's see what happens" .... crazy!

Marie - they must know how much Benson means to you if they are really good friends and have spent time around you.  I would think long and hard about whether I wanted to be friends who so little respect for my feelings and the welfare of one of the most important "people" in my life.  Let us know how this one pans out eh?                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: Maria on June 25, 2004, 10:39:06 AM
I have just caught up with this post and quite frankly, my gob has been well and truly smacked! :shock:
That poor little girl. :cry:
Amazing how sometimes people can do something that makes you wonder why you had considered them to be a friend!                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: lizzy on June 25, 2004, 10:39:44 AM
I'm sorry Marie, but if she were my so called friend I would have to say something to her! She is asking for trouble and behaving like an idiot, there a thousands of cross breeds out there needing a home with out your friend adding any more! :evil:

This little dog is only a baby herself, please say something to her and try and make her see sense,

Lizzy Molly and Evie                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: LindaW on June 26, 2004, 06:41:05 PM
People like that make me sick - they give no thought to the possible consequences.   :o                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: *-Nikki-* on June 26, 2004, 10:03:46 PM
:shock:

Srry Marie but ppl in life always let u down - dogs very rarely do :wink: !                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: marie_231 on June 28, 2004, 02:48:37 PM
ok , we have just come back from a w/end on the I.O.W , havent seen or heard from my so called "friends" but will definately be having a word with them again and will keep you posted ,                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: Cob-Web on June 28, 2004, 06:12:24 PM
Well done Marie  - I admire your bravery  - take the bull by the horns and tell her how we all reacted when you posted! If no-one ever tells her, she'll carry on thinking that this attitude is OK, and heaven knows how many other poor bitches will suffer  :(

Hope you enjoyed the IoW - weather wasn't great though - were you visiting to watch/take part in the Round Island Race?

Good luck!                    
Title: who needs friends!!
Post by: marie_231 on June 28, 2004, 08:55:21 PM
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Hope you enjoyed the IoW - weather wasn't great though - were you visiting to watch/take part in the Round Island Race? ]

omg the thought of myself paticipating gives me the collywobbles lol , i hate the ferry crossing even , but we did have a w/end without the childrten at warners , norton grange which was lovely