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Title: off on our first shoot
Post by: lyn on August 07, 2007, 03:23:06 PM
ellie and myself are off to our first shoot tomorow. wish us luck please and keep your fingers crossed that all the training to retrieve i have done with ellie will not all fall by the wayside when she picks her first bird/rabbit up :005:
any last minute tips would be good ;)
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: emilyjw on August 07, 2007, 03:30:57 PM
Good luck Lyn, hope Ellie does you proud  ;)
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Boof on August 07, 2007, 03:44:02 PM
Good luck to you and Ellie.  :D
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cazzie on August 07, 2007, 03:49:51 PM
Hope you get on well. What are you shooting as a matter of interest?  :D
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Alpha on August 07, 2007, 04:04:07 PM
Hope you get on well. What are you shooting as a matter of interest?  :D
If it was around here it would be "peasants" :005: I quite fancy strutting round with a gun shouting "oye off my land"
The very best of luck Lynne I'm sure she will be a super star and do you proud! Enjoy your day.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: crazyspaniels on August 07, 2007, 04:19:13 PM
Hope you get on well. What are you shooting as a matter of interest?  :D
If it was around here it would be "peasants" :005: I quite fancy strutting round with a gun shouting "oye off my land"
The very best of luck Lynne I'm sure she will be a super star and do you proud! Enjoy your day.

not now it wouldnt be, pheasants cant be shot until october?
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Aearoniel on August 07, 2007, 04:26:34 PM
Or chavs Lyn but the jewellry might weigh Ellie down a little  :005: :005:

Good luck and my only advice that I'm qualified to give..... enjoy!
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: crazyspaniels on August 07, 2007, 04:43:51 PM
Hope you get on well. What are you shooting as a matter of interest?  :D
If it was around here it would be "peasants" :005: I quite fancy strutting round with a gun shouting "oye off my land"
The very best of luck Lynne I'm sure she will be a super star and do you proud! Enjoy your day.

not now it wouldnt be, pheasants cant be shot until october?

just re-read that, ooops, open season for peasants I reckon :005: :005:
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Coco on August 07, 2007, 04:56:31 PM
Fantastic, Ellie is going to love, love, love it i'm sure!! Nothing quite like it.

As Cazzie said, what will you be shooting? I thought it was only rabbits this time of year.  :huh:
Rabbits are the hardest with Wherry as she sill wants to go chasing after them  >:D
I'm sure you'll get home tomorrow one muddy dog and one proud mum!  :luv:
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cazzie on August 07, 2007, 05:30:39 PM
Pigeons can be shot, I love pigeon  :luv:
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Coco on August 07, 2007, 05:53:32 PM
Pigeons can be shot, I love pigeon  :luv:

 ::) Of course, I stand corrected  ph34r

Oh and Lyn, may be obvious but somehow I always manage to forget; plastic and/or blanket to cover the car seat if you're driving, towels and treats for Ellie and baby wipes for you.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: MrsMac on August 07, 2007, 05:54:16 PM
Good luck Lyn and Ellie.  We took Melody to our local Gamefair for the first time at the weekend and she fell asleep whilst we watched the clay pigeon shooting.   20-odd guns going off at the same time and I was worried she'd hate it - quite the opposite infact  ::) :005:

Enjoy yourselves tomorrow  ;)
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Post by: sabrino on August 07, 2007, 06:00:19 PM
Good luck!!! Have fun!!
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: crazyspaniels on August 07, 2007, 06:07:23 PM
Pigeons can be shot, I love pigeon  :luv:

yeah, but pigeon shooting is not very dog friendly unless your dog is really well trained and will sit still for hours, and certainly not a group sport - fomr someone who spent 4 hours sitting in a hollowed out tree a few weeks ago
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: lyn on August 07, 2007, 06:21:38 PM
its wabbits :005: not sure yet if i'll manage to even get the nerve to shoot myself but i'll give it a try. she has come into her own these past few months but i never mentioned it before in case it was a fleeting fancy of hers. the clay shoot a few weeks back was for me to see how she reacted to the gun up close. i have to say she did fine but i jumped out of my skin a few times :005: i may take the camera and just shoot the others and ellie. i am terrified of rabbits back legs, they totaly freak me out. ellie has shown recently her ability to retrieve with next to no training from me except for the back garden where we have spent many hours throwing for her to pick up. the back bit of the garden is wild and we have hidden dummies and told her to go seek and pick up which she has about a 90% success rate with but i'm not expecting to much of her tomorow coz it will be her first time in a field and picking up fresh kill. we have to start somewhere and i thought this sounded ideal when we were invited. tbh i'm more worried about how i am going to react. i have a working gun dog and feel i should be doing something to pay her back for all the joy she gives me. if she does enjoy herself then i will be undertaking some serious training with her. there is a training club over the other side of town that trains the dogs and the owners.
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Post by: Tasha on August 07, 2007, 06:37:41 PM
good luck am sure you'll have a great time, be careful though my friend shot his own dog by accident doing rabbits, now they lamp and he goes back after everything is put away to pick up.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cazzie on August 07, 2007, 07:24:35 PM
Pigeons can be shot, I love pigeon  :luv:

yeah, but pigeon shooting is not very dog friendly unless your dog is really well trained and will sit still for hours, and certainly not a group sport - fomr someone who spent 4 hours sitting in a hollowed out tree a few weeks ago

My Labs do the job nicely, not for the innexperienced cocker like sweepie at the mo  ;)
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cazzie on August 07, 2007, 07:27:10 PM
good luck am sure you'll have a great time, be careful though my friend shot his own dog by accident doing rabbits, now they lamp and he goes back after everything is put away to pick up.

If they shot their dog they should not have a gun in their hand  :o
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: lyn on August 07, 2007, 08:05:02 PM
good luck am sure you'll have a great time, be careful though my friend shot his own dog by accident doing rabbits, now they lamp and he goes back after everything is put away to pick up.

If they shot their dog they should not have a gun in their hand  :o
omg that has freaked me out. luckily the ladies i'm going to be with have never had an accident. 4 have done it many times and the other has only recently started going.
i am starting to half look forward to it.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cazzie on August 07, 2007, 08:07:27 PM
Go and enjoy it, it will be great fun  ;)
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Tasha on August 07, 2007, 08:08:15 PM
sadly accidents do happen they are an experienced and careful shot but the dogs inexperience and over excitement got the better of it and it ran in just as my friend took the shot, no real harm done but their training went back months.  Cockers do have a habit of bouncing...
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Nicola on August 07, 2007, 09:42:03 PM
Pigeons can be shot, I love pigeon  :luv:

yeah, but pigeon shooting is not very dog friendly unless your dog is really well trained and will sit still for hours, and certainly not a group sport - fomr someone who spent 4 hours sitting in a hollowed out tree a few weeks ago

My Labs do the job nicely, not for the innexperienced cocker like sweepie at the mo  ;)

Ditto here, the only one of mine who would be ok to take out shooting anything at the moment is Tilly. Definitely too much too soon for Alfie or Rodaidh.

Anyway I hope you enjoy it Lyn and don't have to finish off any bunnies by hand  ;) :005:
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: lyn on August 07, 2007, 10:20:23 PM
 :o oh i am NOT doing that. not sure if i want to go now ::) getting a sick feeling in my stomach.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: flozac on August 07, 2007, 10:35:15 PM
Have a lovely day Lyn and Ellie
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cazzie on August 07, 2007, 10:42:12 PM
:o oh i am NOT doing that. not sure if i want to go now ::) getting a sick feeling in my stomach.

Its one of the things you have to deal with if you are out at a shoot when working a dog. If your dog retrieves anything that is injured you have to dispatch it  ;)
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: crazyspaniels on August 08, 2007, 09:24:18 AM
Dobbie will pigeon shoot with Mr CS but with me he is far too fidgeting and annoying unless he can sit on my knee, which isnt very practical :005:
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cazzie on August 08, 2007, 09:30:45 AM
Dobbie will pigeon shoot with Mr CS but with me he is far too fidgeting and annoying unless he can sit on my knee, which isnt very practical :005:

Aww I thnk Miss Sweepie would be the same  :005:
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: lyn on August 08, 2007, 10:05:57 AM
erm ok i am stupid.. its next wednesday :embarassed: not today.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: crazyspaniels on August 08, 2007, 10:34:20 AM
doh, oh well, plenty of time to get excited :D
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: spanielcrazy on August 08, 2007, 04:51:07 PM
erm ok i am stupid.. its next wednesday :embarassed: not today.


At least you didn't go. I showed up to watch a dog show......


a week early  ph34r :005:
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Tasha on August 08, 2007, 06:36:32 PM
if we're dishing dirt I turned up to a wedding a week early and then a funeral a week late :luv: :luv:
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Coco on August 15, 2007, 03:03:14 PM
How did it go?
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: lyn on August 15, 2007, 08:45:02 PM
i didn't go :huh: :embarassed:
they were here saturday afternoon trying to get me to go lamping with them saturday night. i asked if it was illegal and when told it was i said i wasn't going. they were trying to egg me on and mentioned they often shot deer :o :'( i decided there and then that hunting just wasn't my thing, even if deer steaks are lovely to bbq :o plus one of the ladies hubby has a working cocker and the lady kept on about putting him to ellie >:D i just thought it odd i was being invited at about the time my girl is due in season. guess i'll be sticking to my townie friends from now on but i am still tempted to take ellie gundog training.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cob-Web on August 15, 2007, 08:50:11 PM
Lamping is not illegal - unless they are doing it on private land without permission  :huh: Rabbits are specifically excluded from the "hunting with dogs" legislation........and they are shot, anyway  :huh:

Deer is a different matter, though - I think you need a license, but I'm not really sure........who the heck do they get to butcher the meat??
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cazzie on August 15, 2007, 09:09:27 PM
Your not allowed to lamp deer at night, but you can rabbits and foxes. they sound a bit dodgy to me  :-\
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: *jean* on August 16, 2007, 09:19:27 AM
they may be poaching.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Millomite on August 16, 2007, 11:33:12 AM
They certainly don't sound like legitimate folk. Lamping is legal for rabbits and foxes. Not for deer
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: lyn on August 16, 2007, 04:17:02 PM
i asked if the lamping was legal and they said no, because they were out for deer. i didn't ask who would sort out the dead deer rachel i was a bit miffed at the time. when they said that deer was lovely off the bbq i felt a bit sick. i am asuming they were poaching and although the local farmers may welcome them with open arms for the shooting of rabbits i find nothing to excuse them wanting to shoot deer. maybe when ellie gets her gundog training properly i will look for a decent shoot and have a go but i am not doing anything that incudes shooting deer. end of story. i would rather shoot myself. i used to see them everyday when i did the school transport and i looked forward to seeing them. felt cheated if i didn't catch a glimpse so its just not my idea of fun.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Millomite on August 16, 2007, 04:27:30 PM
They are definitely poaching then Lyn
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Tasha on August 16, 2007, 04:32:32 PM
oh lyn what a pity, poaching is a dreadful thing to do it doesn't do anyone any favours  >:(  There are lots of opportunities to go beating or to do some rabbiting properly its not worth going out with idiots. Maybe we can help you find something a little closer??
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Cob-Web on August 16, 2007, 04:39:23 PM
Oh dear  :-\ What are you going to do now you know about it, Lyn?

How well do you know them? Would you be ruining a friendship if you reported them for what they are doing?  :huh:
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: lyn on August 16, 2007, 06:25:28 PM
rachel i would report them in the blink of an eye if i knew where they did it. i foolishly didn't think to ask mainly because i don't drive and would have been getting a lift. i keep thinking about the poor deer too. they are my daughters best friends relatives so it would cause a bit of trouble but tbh i'm not bothered about that. maybe i will find out where they go in a sly roundabout way and then report it. i will give it a go.
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Coco on August 16, 2007, 06:53:04 PM
What a shame Lyn, I hope you don't find yourself put off in the future.  :-\
Title: Re: off on our first shoot
Post by: Nicola on August 16, 2007, 10:44:27 PM
Really sorry to hear this Lyn  :-\  I hope you can maybe find some above board shooting soon. I have no problem with deer being shot and it is indeed a very nice meat but it has to be done legally.