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Title: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: allylou on January 28, 2010, 11:17:01 AM
Not quite sure if this is the right place to put this thread....

In March we will be getting our first lab puppy  :luv: from the Dogs for the Disabled - the idea is we socialise it for a year before she moves on to her proper training with the society .

Anyway, yesterday i went to a training/info session with them and was really interested to hear that they have 2 working cockers going through their program at the moment. The plan is for these dogs to be placed in partnerships with children who are disabled. They've chosen cockers both for their size, fun. loyalty etc  whilst also looking carefully at their lines. It got me thinking whether i could imagine my own two in this role and i think the answer is probably no; one has to high a hunt drive, whilst the other can be too timid. However, i can completely see why a cocker (worker or show) could be really successful in this role. Interested to hear what others have too say.  :D
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Top Barks on January 28, 2010, 11:30:14 AM
two of mine would be fab :D
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Annette on January 28, 2010, 11:33:12 AM
Mine would need a very robust owner!!! Probably a fail then! :005:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Jenna on January 28, 2010, 11:35:10 AM
Sounds like the perfect job for Bailey. He is so gentle, and his energy levels don't overpower his common sense.  :luv:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: supergirl on January 28, 2010, 03:20:15 PM
Roly would do well in this and can be very helpful already - can fetch the remote :lol2:  He's very good a getting things that you point to, even little black dogs that do a runner with a dead rabbit :lol2:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Rats and Dogs on January 28, 2010, 05:25:55 PM
Duggie and Tia would willingly help anyone eat their dinner! :005:

Mine would be hopeless, Duggie would want to play tug with everything, and would gnash their ankles, and Tia wouldn't be bothered to get out her bed to assist anyone. ::) They might make good PAT dogs though, once Duggie has grown up a bit and calmed down. :luv:
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Post by: *jean* on January 28, 2010, 05:29:37 PM
Rolos brother already is!  :luv:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Hurtwood Dogs on January 28, 2010, 05:31:54 PM
Well done you for fostering the lab for a year, it sounds really interesting :D :luv: :luv:

I can categorically say, without doubt, that there is no way Dave would ever make a good assistance dog... ever. Unless anyone needs a dog to trip them up and eat all their dinner :lol2: My last cocker was far too emotional, big and bouncy too so that's zero suitable cockers here :lol:

Tasha's Weim is an assistance dog, but I don't think it would be Normy's cuppa, putting so much effort into being misunderstood and huffy would probably distract her from the task in hand ::) :005:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Emma xx on January 28, 2010, 05:37:27 PM
Meg would be a rubbish one :lol2: all she wants to do is sleep when in the house (unless you're eating :shades:), and is a boring so and so when out walking ::). She is very sweet but just dont think she would suit a child looking for a playmate or an adult who would want a more 'alert' dog :005:. I love her more than anything though ;) xxxx
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Joules on January 28, 2010, 07:18:54 PM
Hearing Dogs for the Deaf use a lot of cockers  :luv:

The only situation when Coco would make a good assistance dog is if they needed someone to steal food for them - so no, she would be rubbish, far too easily distracted and unruly ::) :005:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: allylou on January 28, 2010, 08:14:09 PM
Lovely to read all your replies[

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Rolos brother already is!  :luv:
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is it through a particular organisation? The more i learn and see what dogs are capable of doing the more i fall in love with them - yesterday they showed a video of some working partnerships and i nearly cried  ph34r because the dogs were just so clever and gentle

Hearing Dogs for the Deaf use a lot of cockers  :luv:

::) :005:

i didn't know that - Marley's very good at barking when the doorbell and phone rings  :D
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Post by: JaspersMum on January 28, 2010, 08:26:08 PM
Jasper may not formally be recognised as an assistance dog but that's what he is to my son.  He got DS to go out, taking part in fun shows without me being in the ring with him, I can leave them at home (for short periods) as son feels safe at home if the dog(s) are there with him.

My understanding of assistance dogs, certainly those trained for help with autistic children, is not just to be able to get things or draw attention, but to enable a child to be able to live a little bit more independently. 

Heidi is now also drawn to son (although it took a while as he can be a bit vocal which Heidi didn't like) and Charlie also seems to like to seek him out (and enjoys going into the special needs school).

Louie is less of a person dog so I'd be less likely to cast him in the role.
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Post by: Nicola on January 28, 2010, 08:31:09 PM
I think Rodaidh could be, he's pretty high energy but he's very obedient, patient and biddable and will do pretty much anything for me :luv:

I don't think Caoimhe would be suitable, she's very clever and trainable but she's very high drive and 'worky', I picked her as a candidate for trialling and most of the traits that make her good for that mean that she wouldn't be an ideal assistance dog. Tilly would be a nightmare, she only does something if she can see the point in it and she can be a stubborn, huffy moo, she'd probably decide she had better ways to use her time and leave the poor person stranded :lol2:

I think it's a fab thing to do though, any programme or feature that has these dogs in it always makes me go a bit teary :luv:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Joules on January 28, 2010, 09:11:42 PM
Hearing Dogs for the Deaf use a lot of cockers  :luv: 

i didn't know that - Marley's very good at barking when the doorbell and phone rings  :D

I don't think making a noise is a lot of help for a deaf person  :shades: :005:

I have seen the Hearing Dogs demo at various shows and they often have a gorgeous working cocker doing it.  :luv: They will wake their owner up when the alarm goes off, take them to the phone or the door when they need to but if the smoke alarm goes off, they are trained to alert the person without taking them to the source of the sound so they would not lead them into danger :luv: :luv:  Obviously a very lively, active breed is not necessarily a problem for a deaf person in the same way it would be for a blind or physically disabled person so working cockers are popular.  In fact one of my neighbours fostered a bitch for Hearing Dogs when she had cockerpoo pups for them - they often cross them with a poodle because they are both intelligent breeds and also the allergy thing.  ;)
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: SkyeSue on January 28, 2010, 09:18:56 PM
Chloe would be hopeless.....she could only assist in causing mayhem  ph34r :005:

If a person was in need of mega cocker cuddles and kisses, she would be perfect, other than that....forget it  :005:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: JaspersMum on January 28, 2010, 09:57:54 PM
Chloe would be hopeless.....she could only assist in causing mayhem  ph34r :005:

If a person was in need of mega cocker cuddles and kisses, she would be perfect, other than that....forget it  :005:

Heidi does good "mouth to mouth"  :005:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: allylou on January 28, 2010, 10:30:37 PM
Hearing Dogs for the Deaf use a lot of cockers  :luv: 

i didn't know that - Marley's very good at barking when the doorbell and phone rings  :D

I don't think making a noise is a lot of help for a deaf person  :shades: :005:

  ;)

ooooops :021:  :D
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: fizzyntiffy on January 28, 2010, 10:41:37 PM
 :lol2: :lol2:

If it was 'seeing off the poor bloke trying to deliver a leaflet' Tiff would be perfect.

Other than that Tiff would get a 'decline' stamp  :lol2: :lol2:

Really admire dogs that do this tho.  And good on ya for helping out with this  :D
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Holly Berry on January 29, 2010, 10:07:28 AM
I think Holly would have made a good PAT dog and I now regret not putting her forward. 

Ebony would be good at assisting in the fight against identify fraud as she is very good at paper shredding  :lol2:
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Rats and Dogs on January 29, 2010, 05:22:49 PM
Hearing Dogs for the Deaf use a lot of cockers  :luv: 

i didn't know that - Marley's very good at barking when the doorbell and phone rings  :D

I don't think making a noise is a lot of help for a deaf person  :shades: :005:
I couldn't help laughing at that. :005:

Duggie runs to the phone when it rings, and the door when the bell goes, he might be quite good for a deaf person (if he didn't gnash ankles on the way back. ::))
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Post by: supergirl on January 29, 2010, 05:40:34 PM
Both Misha and Roly will run to the cooker when the timer goes off.  Usually there before I've even heard it :D
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Rats and Dogs on January 29, 2010, 07:06:51 PM
Both Misha and Roly will run to the cooker when the timer goes off.  Usually there before I've even heard it :D
They'll smell when the food is ready! :005:

Tia sits in the kitchen waiting for food to be cooked, I was making toast, and she came to get me when it popped up! :D Although, I doubt she was giving me actual assistance, she was more likely just hoping for a bit! :005:
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Post by: sharonmansfield on January 29, 2010, 08:33:38 PM
Jasmine can empty the tumble dryer, she has had no training for this its just her sock fetish that drives it. However its all dragged into her basket then slept on so not ideal!!!!

They can also fetch the post - then fight over the post - then shred the post!!!  >:(

Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: allylou on January 29, 2010, 10:42:31 PM
Hearing Dogs for the Deaf use a lot of cockers  :luv: 

i didn't know that - Marley's very good at barking when the doorbell and phone rings  :D

I don't think making a noise is a lot of help for a deaf person  :shades: :005:
I couldn't help laughing at that. :005:


i'm still in hiding about that ph34r
Title: Re: would your cocker make a good assistance dog?
Post by: Victoria25 on January 29, 2010, 11:10:46 PM
Poppy also does the toast thing! I put some on before work then wander around getting ready. She sits and waits by the toaster and always comes to find me as soon as it pops!
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Post by: floydlennon on January 29, 2010, 11:13:39 PM
if it was classed as assistance to eat socks and sleep for 20 hours a day floyd would skoosh it