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Cocker Specific Discussion => Puppies => Topic started by: Geordietyke on July 31, 2016, 03:00:42 PM
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Just had a lovely walk in our local country park with Monty. We met up with his sable cocker friend, Oscar and they were having the time of their life together :luv: A man approached us and said he'd had cockers and hadn't realised how thick they were until he got his Jack Russell >:( Now, I can describe cockers as many things but thick isn't one of them. Just wondering if he even got close to knowing and understanding his own dogs :-\
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Just had a lovely walk in our local country park with Monty. We met up with his sable cocker friend, Oscar and they were having the time of their life together :luv: A man approached us and said he'd had cockers and hadn't realised how thick they were until he got his Jack Russell >:( Now, I can describe cockers as many things but thick isn't one of them. Just wondering if he even got close to knowing and understanding his own dogs :-\
Charming!! always amazes me why people feel it is ok to be rude to other folk and their dogs >:D
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Not worth even giving rude idiots like that a second thought! Hope you didn't let him spoil your walk!
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No, it didn't spoil our walk but it amazes me that people come out with these things, especially as he had a stall selling items and he even said, "they're not going to buy anything cos I called their dogs thick" >:( Funnily enough, the things he was selling wasn't my cup of tea but it's like saying to him "that's a load of cr@p, I wouldn't give it houseroom" :lol2:
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My previous dog was a Jack Russell and I can honestly say that my cocker spaniel is a far more intelligent dog and one with more of an understanding his humans. The JR was a funny little dog but also not very pleasant to be around some days as he was very grumpy.
I am amazed that someone would approach you with such a ridiculous statement.
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No, it didn't spoil our walk but it amazes me that people come out with these things, especially as he had a stall selling items and he even said, "they're not going to buy anything cos I called their dogs thick" >:( Funnily enough, the things he was selling wasn't my cup of tea but it's like saying to him "that's a load of cr@p, I wouldn't give it houseroom" :lol2:
Shame you didn't, the cheeky sod
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One of the best I've had said to me is "oh a Labrador comes half trained, whilst a cocker spaniel will die half trained." Safe to say he got shot down- I find my boy a pleasure to train and all cockers seem to have great little characters.
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The best one I had was: 'Oh, is that a cocker spaniel? Ha, ha, good luck with THAT.' All while Henry was sitting really nicely by my side.
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Our first dog was a Jack Russell, and I have to say he was very very smart. He would think for himself and was very independent. While a bigger dog was still thinking about doing something he had already worked it out and done it. He was cleverer than my five scotties, again very independent dogs. INthink the thing with Cockers is that they are more trainable than terriers, they want to,please whereas terriers don't necessarily, so it makes them seem less subservient and daft :005:. Just different breeds.
I was walking once with my five scotties on their leads, walking along nicely beside me, and a man passing with a child jerked her away, saying'don,t go near those scotties, they're vicious dogs'! Didn't know me from Adam, or my lovely nice terriers >:D
Cockers are not as thick as some people are ph34r ;)
Lesley and Dylan
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No, it didn't spoil our walk but it amazes me that people come out with these things, especially as he had a stall selling items and he even said, "they're not going to buy anything cos I called their dogs thick" >:( Funnily enough, the things he was selling wasn't my cup of tea but it's like saying to him "that's a load of cr@p, I wouldn't give it houseroom" :lol2:
Shame you didn't, the cheeky sod
My thoughts entirely!
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Its just so ridiculous! They're not all clones with identical intelligence levels! But when you see how much prejudice that exists within the human species, is it any wonder that our dogs have to suffer from it aswell!........
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One of the best I've had said to me is "oh a Labrador comes half trained, whilst a cocker spaniel will die half trained." Safe to say he got shot down- I find my boy a pleasure to train and all cockers seem to have great little characters.
I have heard this quote before and have to say in my case I agree, but I believe that my girl has more character and looks for fun / excitement in different places
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Well how very dare he!! Mind you, I suspect his cockers may have been related to my first cocker, Sherwood. He had the IQ of a peanut! :005: Archie on the other hand is a member of MENSA. ;)
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Poor Sherwood :005:
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It never ceases to amaze me how rude some people are! >:D
Since being poorly, I have often taken the dogs for a quick run round the block using Trev's mobility scooter. So I have Suki walking sedately on the outside, Alfie next to her and Dexter next to me - all 3 walking perfectly next to the scooter. The number of people who have said "You have got your hands full there love!"
Yes, my hands are full of loose leads whilst my 3 dogs walk perfectly beside me! It just winds me up. I am not saying my dogs are perfect all the time, but when walking next to the mobility scooter they know that they have to behave and they do.
Our son works in a local well known DIY store and he is really shocked at the personal comments customers make to him - and he tells me it is usually the "older generation"!
What gives people the right to make personal comments to complete strangers? He has been told he is far too pale (he is fair skinned) and looks ill (not helpful to tell someone who suffers with their body image). He has been told off for having his ear pierced! He has been sworn at because the customer didn't read the small print on the company paperwork and was not actually entitled to a discount on a particular item on that particular day.
Right, will step off my soap box now! :005: (and my cockers were NOT stupid either! LOL)
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Many years ago I was given very sage advice - you should never argue with a fool; people may not be able to tell the difference!
On that basis, you were right to maintain a dignified silence.
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Another saying I like is 'Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level - and then beat you with experience!'
Having said that Jasmine can have flashes of dumbness - she likes to play with an ice cube, and then buries it in the garden to play with later ... :005:
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When I took Honey to the vet he asked me if she bites, I said no. He replied that he'd been bitten by a golden cocker once!! He's a VET!! Surely you expect to get bitten once in a while in that occupation!! I still don't like him and will be changing vets once I've got Pips insurance claim sorted out!
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No, it didn't spoil our walk but it amazes me that people come out with these things, especially as he had a stall selling items and he even said, "they're not going to buy anything cos I called their dogs thick" >:( Funnily enough, the things he was selling wasn't my cup of tea but it's like saying to him "that's a load of cr@p, I wouldn't give it houseroom" :lol2:
I would have said just that , perhaps his cockers realised how stupid he was and ran rings around him without him even knowing, ive had 5 cockers and non were stupid though some were clever and devious too :005: :005:
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I would never say either of my pair are brains of britain but they both have me wrapped round their paws ;) ;) As for the cocker die half trained quote I can agree to a point, my pair are generally well behaved but have far too much personality to be 'robot' dogs which is what some people expect from their pets. I chose to work with my dogs quirks and foibles rather than try and train them out of them completely
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I would never say either of my pair are brains of britain but they both have me wrapped round their paws ;) ;) As for the cocker die half trained quote I can agree to a point, my pair are generally well behaved but have far too much personality to be 'robot' dogs which is what some people expect from their pets. I chose to work with my dogs quirks and foibles rather than try and train them out of them completely
I couldn't agree more :D :D :D
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I would never say either of my pair are brains of britain but they both have me wrapped round their paws ;) ;) As for the cocker die half trained quote I can agree to a point, my pair are generally well behaved but have far too much personality to be 'robot' dogs which is what some people expect from their pets. I chose to work with my dogs quirks and foibles rather than try and train them out of them completely
My thoughts entirely, mine will never be a genius, but if I wanted a totally subservient dog I'd have got a border collie, it's the way they are which makes us adore them, OK, so where is that ball :-)
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I often find some suggest cockers are thick because the dog has got the better of them ;)
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ph34r ph34r >:D Well good for him, his Jack Russell is obviously more intelligent than him then. I think he was probably too "thick" and on a different wavelength from the cockers . .... :angel:
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No way can you generalise breeds like that, dogs are just like us some very smart and some not so much. There is also the question of smart or obedient I have had dogs that were very well behaved and easy to train but I would have not said they were particularly very smart. The smartest dogs I have had have all been harder to train but once working they have been head and shoulders above the dogs that were a doddle to train.
Teal is definitely in the smart camp >:D >:D >:D
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Yesterday I decided to train a completely new game.
I have a ball with a hole right through on the end of a long string.
This goes into the river when we go swimming and it sinks quite quickly.
The dog must swim out and retrieve it before it goes to the bottom.
We practiced on the stairs for ten minutes or so.
He'd never seen this contraption before and was wary of the string.
Took about ten throws at the river to get the first retrieve.
Played at this for a hour.
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Just going back to the original topic, if I may.
There's a woman in our village, fancies herself as a bit of a Barbara Woodhouse, I think. Yesterday, she strode up to Blue, who's nicely in the midst of teething, shoved her hand right into his mouth and .....
'Oh!', she says, all surprised. 'He's still very nippy isn't he? You want to put a stop to that!'. >:(
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I'd have said, "actually I have, the last person who did that was Venus di Milo" :005: :005:
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Hahahahaha! Wish I had thought of that! :005: