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Title: puppies pulling
Post by: johndoran on January 27, 2007, 04:47:09 PM
What can i do to stop my 17 week old puppy bonnie from pulling on the lead? without using a harness or a halter.She sometimes seems to do it just for the devilment of it and is worse with my wife who walks slower than me i am only taking her for about 20 to 25 minutes 3 times a day. i have started puppy training this week but haven't covered this .any suggestions would be appreciated
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Krisdt on January 27, 2007, 04:50:46 PM
 I find if I just stop when he pulls and dont start till the lead goes slack then he stops pulling as much, we are building up bit by bit and he is much better at walking to heal. I combined this with a treat held in front of him and when he walks properly he gets it (just make sure you have plenty with you)
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Cob-Web on January 27, 2007, 04:59:45 PM
What can i do to stop my 17 week old puppy bonnie from pulling on the lead? without using a harness or a halter.She sometimes seems to do it just for the devilment of it and is worse with my wife who walks slower than me i am only taking her for about 20 to 25 minutes 3 times a day. i have started puppy training this week but haven't covered this .any suggestions would be appreciated

She doesn't do it "for devilment" (although I know it feels like it), she does it because she is a puppy and hasn't been taught not too  ;)

There are various different methods of teaching a dog not to pull - and I am sure you will cover it in training classes, but not all methods work for all dogs  ::)
Don't give up too soon though - consistency is the most important thing; and each time Bonnie pulls she gets a reward (she gets where she wants to go), and so is more likely to do it again - it can take a while  ph34r
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Jan/Billy on January 28, 2007, 03:56:05 PM
i am only taking her for about 20 to 25 minutes 3 times a day. i have started puppy training this week but haven't covered this .any suggestions would be appreciated


Be careful when walking a puppy, walking times need to be restricted whilst their bones are forming. The general rule is 5 mins per month of age per day. So a 4 mth old pup should be having no more than 20 mins walk a day  ;)
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Nicola on January 28, 2007, 07:11:56 PM
i am only taking her for about 20 to 25 minutes 3 times a day. i have started puppy training this week but haven't covered this .any suggestions would be appreciated


Be careful when walking a puppy, walking times need to be restricted whilst their bones are forming. The general rule is 5 mins per month of age per day. So a 4 mth old pup should be having no more than 20 mins walk a day  ;)

Twenty minutes three times a day though so 60 minutes in total spread out over three walks  ;)
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Jan/Billy on January 28, 2007, 07:18:05 PM
i am only taking her for about 20 to 25 minutes 3 times a day. i have started puppy training this week but haven't covered this .any suggestions would be appreciated


Be careful when walking a puppy, walking times need to be restricted whilst their bones are forming. The general rule is 5 mins per month of age per day. So a 4 mth old pup should be having no more than 20 mins walk a day  ;)

Twenty minutes three times a day though so 60 minutes in total spread out over three walks  ;)

I always thought it was per day  ph34r Billy was robbed of his walking time then  ph34r Sorry Billy  :embarassed:
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: PennyB on January 28, 2007, 07:20:27 PM
i am only taking her for about 20 to 25 minutes 3 times a day. i have started puppy training this week but haven't covered this .any suggestions would be appreciated


Be careful when walking a puppy, walking times need to be restricted whilst their bones are forming. The general rule is 5 mins per month of age per day. So a 4 mth old pup should be having no more than 20 mins walk a day  ;)

Twenty minutes three times a day though so 60 minutes in total spread out over three walks  ;)

I always thought it was per day  ph34r Billy was robbed of his walking time then  ph34r Sorry Billy  :embarassed:

I think Nicola was suggesting the hour is too much  and they shouldn't be getting 20minx 3 a day so Billy wasn't robbed ;)
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Nicola on January 28, 2007, 07:25:07 PM
i am only taking her for about 20 to 25 minutes 3 times a day. i have started puppy training this week but haven't covered this .any suggestions would be appreciated


Be careful when walking a puppy, walking times need to be restricted whilst their bones are forming. The general rule is 5 mins per month of age per day. So a 4 mth old pup should be having no more than 20 mins walk a day  ;)

Twenty minutes three times a day though so 60 minutes in total spread out over three walks  ;)

I always thought it was per day  ph34r Billy was robbed of his walking time then  ph34r Sorry Billy  :embarassed:

I think Nicola was suggesting the hour is too much  and they shouldn't be getting 20minx 3 a day so Billy wasn't robbed ;)

No, it is 15 minutes three times per day at 3 months... 20 minutes three times a day at 4 months etc etc. That's what I've always had recommended and read in books and here on COL... cos if it was only 20 minutes in total per day that's only 6 minutes per walk and if you did it like that then a 6 month old puppy would only be getting half an hour's walk per day in three 10 minute bursts which is definitely not enough.
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Jan/Billy on January 28, 2007, 07:27:47 PM
cos if it was only 20 minutes in total per day that's only 6 minutes per walk and if you did it like that then a 6 month old puppy would only be getting half an hour's walk per day in three 10 minute bursts which is definitely not enough.

But that's what Billy got  ph34r I thought it was per day, not per walk. Oh dear poor Billy  :embarassed: :embarassed:  I'm sorry lad   :'(

Sometimes on the odd day we did go over this limit but not often  :'(
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Nicola on January 28, 2007, 07:51:28 PM
cos if it was only 20 minutes in total per day that's only 6 minutes per walk and if you did it like that then a 6 month old puppy would only be getting half an hour's walk per day in three 10 minute bursts which is definitely not enough.

But that's what Billy got  ph34r I thought it was per day, not per walk. Oh dear poor Billy  :embarassed: :embarassed:  I'm sorry lad   :'(

Sometimes on the odd day we did go over this limit but not often  :'(

Awww I wouldn't worry too much about it now Jan hun  :-*  It won't have done him any harm in the long run although Alfie would have been a heck of a lot more hyper in the house!  :005:
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Jan/Billy on January 28, 2007, 07:53:43 PM
although Alfie would have been a heck of a lot more hyper in the house!  :005:

He was  ph34r ph34r  How stupid am I  ph34r
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Cob-Web on January 28, 2007, 09:11:00 PM
cos if it was only 20 minutes in total per day that's only 6 minutes per walk and if you did it like that then a 6 month old puppy would only be getting half an hour's walk per day in three 10 minute bursts which is definitely not enough.

But that's what Billy got  ph34r I thought it was per day, not per walk. Oh dear poor Billy  :embarassed: :embarassed:  I'm sorry lad   :'(

Sometimes on the odd day we did go over this limit but not often  :'(

I followed the same schedule as you did Jan, on the advice of my vet and posts at the time on CoL which said 5 minutes per month - nothing about three times a day  ph34r
Molo got loads of play and training in the garden, but only one or two walks - up to a daily total of 5 minutes per month  ;)
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Nicola on January 28, 2007, 09:18:18 PM
cos if it was only 20 minutes in total per day that's only 6 minutes per walk and if you did it like that then a 6 month old puppy would only be getting half an hour's walk per day in three 10 minute bursts which is definitely not enough.

But that's what Billy got  ph34r I thought it was per day, not per walk. Oh dear poor Billy  :embarassed: :embarassed:  I'm sorry lad   :'(

Sometimes on the odd day we did go over this limit but not often  :'(

I followed the same schedule as you did Jan, on the advice of my vet and posts at the time on CoL which said 5 minutes per month - nothing about three times a day  ph34r
Molo got loads of play and training in the garden, but only one or two walks - up to a daily total of 5 minutes per month  ;)

So you only took him out for a total of 15 minutes a day when he was 3 months? I wouldn't have been able to do any leash training with Alfie in a 5 minute walk, it would all have been used up with him going to the toilet and me picking it up!
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Cob-Web on January 28, 2007, 09:26:05 PM
So you only took him out for a total of 15 minutes a day when he was 3 months? I wouldn't have been able to do any leash training with Alfie in a 5 minute walk, it would all have been used up with him going to the toilet and me picking it up!

No - I used to take him somewhere like a park, walk for five minutes - then he played with some dogs we met, then walked for another five minutes - then he played with another dog or two - or chased a ball, then we walked for another five minutes while we did some training and then more play before going home  ;)
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Jan/Billy on January 28, 2007, 09:41:08 PM
Billy often only had one walk a day, the rest was in the garden or in the tennis courts.

I've read back old posts and very few of them actually state three times a day so I reckon there may be a few people that have made the same mistake  :005:
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Nicola on January 28, 2007, 09:45:24 PM
Billy often only had one walk a day, the rest was in the garden or in the tennis courts.

I've read back old posts and very few of them actually state three times a day so I reckon there may be a few people that have made the same mistake  :005:

I think whatever works for the individual pup is fine. I've always just read and gone by the three times a day thing and with Alfie any less than that he'd have been bouncing off the ceiling  :005:
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Cob-Web on January 28, 2007, 09:47:57 PM

I've read back old posts and very few of them actually state three times a day so I reckon there may be a few people that have made the same mistake  :005:

I agree Jan - it is only fairly recently that the five minutes per day rule seems to have evolved into a five minutes per walk rule  ph34r
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: Nicola on January 28, 2007, 10:00:56 PM

I've read back old posts and very few of them actually state three times a day so I reckon there may be a few people that have made the same mistake  :005:

I agree Jan - it is only fairly recently that the five minutes per day rule seems to have evolved into a five minutes per walk rule  ph34r

Like I said, probably it depends on the puppy. Alfie would have done himself more damage running riot in the house if he hadn't had a bit more exercise as a puppy than an extra 15 minute stroll on the lead could possibly do him. The KC recommends 5 minutes per month twice a day as far as I remember but I did three because I felt that that was right for my dog and I have read others recommend this also.

Apologies to the OP as this thread has gone waaaaaaay off topic!
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: scooby's mum on January 29, 2007, 08:48:54 PM
Going to throw a spanner in the works here - but in one of my books is says you shouldn't walk a puppy at all until he/she is 6 months old, the garden is enough.

Misty is 4 months old and she gets walked once a day for about 30 mins - she is also in and out of the garden most of the day too  ;)
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: PennyB on January 29, 2007, 11:18:03 PM
Going to throw a spanner in the works here - but in one of my books is says you shouldn't walk a puppy at all until he/she is 6 months old, the garden is enough.

How on earth do they suggest socialising them --- can't imagine carrying a 6mo old round.

I live very near the park so I used to walk mine there then just let them play with other dogs, while we all had a gossip ::)
Title: Re: puppies pulling
Post by: banjodav on January 30, 2007, 09:46:27 AM





whenever Jess started pulling I turned around and walked in the opposite direction.  As she only pulled one wasy she soon got the hang of things that if she wanted to go in @her@ direction she had to walk nicely.