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Cocker Specific Discussion => Feeding => Topic started by: *Theresa* on March 26, 2007, 11:17:50 AM
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Have just discivered this morning about not feeding my two grapes or raisins which I was inadvertantly doing :o I also know about gravy and chocolate but is there anything else I should be avoiding?
Also are there any food that is particularily good for them?
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Corn on the cob.... which I didn't know about until it was mentioned on here. :o
(Great idea for a thread too)
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I also know about gravy...
Gravy? I didn't know about that - I sometimes put some on his kibble. :o
I knew about grapes, raisins and chocolate.
Since having Charlie, I've discovered that onions and garlic are toxic to dogs, as are potato peelings.
Also, I believe Macadamia nuts are - but as our Tesco seem to have stopped doing them (they were my fave!), that temptation won't be in our house!
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I also know about gravy...
Gravy? I didn't know about that - I sometimes put some on his kibble. :o
I knew about grapes, raisins and chocolate.
Since having Charlie, I've discovered that onions and garlic are toxic to dogs, as are potato peelings.
Also, I believe Macadamia nuts are - but as our Tesco seem to have stopped doing them (they were my fave!), that temptation won't be in our house!
I may be wrong but i think the problem with gravy is the salt content.
As far as i'm aware garlic is fine and kills fleas too....
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I may be wrong but i think the problem with gravy is the salt content.
As far as i'm aware garlic is fine and kills fleas too....
According to a site I've just looked at, it's also due to there being onion powder in some packet gravies.
Thanks for the info about garlic - I thought onions and garlic were from the same plant family, but it appears they aren't.
The site I looked at also said mushrooms are toxic for dogs, and raw eggs. I've never given Charlie mushrooms, but I sometimes mix a raw egg into his food - I feel bad now. :(
The site says Marijuana may be harmful. Well durr!
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Heres an old topic form last year, it has a good long list on it.
http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=16660.0 (http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=16660.0)
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Cheers Cathy, that was my pre COL days and I am abviously useless with this whole search thing. That is exactly what I needed. ;)
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I don't think garlic or raw eggs are on the 'bad' list ? :huh: sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong ::)
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Thats ok, I had a bit of trouble finding it, its not that easy to find stuff, unless your pretty sure its there.
It is useful to know, and with loads of new members, can only help more people to re-question it !!
I was shocked when i read it.
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I've just read it and I'm ph34r in shame ph34r My two are constantly after the potatoes out of the fields arond us :embarassed: i do try and not let them get them but will now be trying harder ;)
as for garlic, i put that in my liver cake (one place says it's not good and another says to give them garlic, :huh: confusing or what )
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I was a little suprised to find cigarretes and cigars on there. Don't know how Glen will take it when i tell him he can no longar have his after dinner brandy and cigar. :005:
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:D
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try this link its a dog food test
http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz.cfm?qid=197844&origin (http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz.cfm?qid=197844&origin)
How many did u all get ?
I got 7 out of 10 :D
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;)
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I got 6/10. I got no 6 no 9 and no 10 wrong >:(
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I don't think garlic or raw eggs are on the 'bad' list ? :huh:
Well mine have both. :D I'm pretty sure most people who feed BARF give their dogs raw eggs complete with the shells. :-\
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6/10 too ph34r
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I don't think garlic or raw eggs are on the 'bad' list ? :huh:
Well mine have both. :D I'm pretty sure most people who feed BARF give their dogs raw eggs complete with the shells. :-\
eggs and garlic both fine.
the 'no' foods links are a good guideline but remember that your dog needs to ingest an awful lot (ie around 20 apples worth of pips) for some of the substances to be toxic to them! also, chocolate - it's the cocoa thats toxic so most milk chocolates have a low cocoa solid level (mostly fat and sugar) and again if your dog accidentally eats a small amount don't panic.
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try this link its a dog food test
http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz.cfm?qid=197844&origin (http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz.cfm?qid=197844&origin)
How many did u all get ?
You scored: 8 / 10
Total points: 80
The average score for this quiz: 4 / 10
But that's because I'd just read this thread! ;)
Thanks for the info re: eggs. Actually, I'm sure I read somewhere that it's good to grind the shell into a fine powder and mix with food as it's high in calcium.
I guess the adage 'everything in moderation' is a good one to follow. :)
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I used to have a Boxer and whilst we where out he managed to get into a food drawer :o and take out a family size bar of Galaxy - that was the most expensive bar of chocolate Ive ever paid for and not even had a bite (2 days and nights at the Vets costing over £200).
Ive now learned my lesson!
Cant understand the garlic thing cos my sister was told by her Vet to giver her Yorkie a garlic tablet and a fish oil capsules every day.
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;) 8/10 ::)
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I got 8 out of 10, got the second and last ones wrong. ::)
My vet told me garlic was fine, good natural flea deterrent and also raw eggs were fine as an occasional treat no more than 3 a week, but I tyhink that was more down to them being fattening than anything else. ;)
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Items to avoid Reasons to avoid
Alcoholic beverages Can cause intoxication, coma, and death.
Baby food Can contain onion powder, which can be toxic to dogs. (Please see onion below.) Can also result in nutritional deficiencies, if fed in large amounts.
Bones from fish, poultry, other meat sources Can cause obstruction or laceration of the digestive system.
Cat food Generally too high in protein and fats.
Chocolate, coffee, tea, and other caffeine Contain caffeine, theobromine, or theophylline, which can be toxic and affect the heart and nervous systems.
Citrus oil extracts Can cause vomiting.
Fat trimmings Can cause pancreatitis.
Grapes and raisins Contain an unknown toxin, which can damage the kidneys.
Hops Unknown compound causes panting, increased heart rate, elevated temperature, seizures, and death.
Human vitamin supplements containing iron Can damage the lining of the digestive system and be toxic to the other organs including the liver and kidneys.
Large amounts of liver Can cause Vitamin A toxicity, which affects muscles and bones.
Macadamia nuts Contain an unknown toxin, which can affect the digestive and nervous systems and muscle.
Marijuana Can depress the nervous system, cause vomiting, and changes in the heart rate.
Milk and other dairy products Some adult dogs and cats do not have sufficient amounts of the enzyme lactase, which breaks down the lactose in milk. This can result in diarrhea. Lactose-free milk products are available for pets.
Mouldy or spoiled food, garbage Can contain multiple toxins causing vomiting and diarrhea and can also affect other organs.
Mushrooms Can contain toxins, which may affect multiple systems in the body, cause shock, and result in death.
Onions and garlic (raw, cooked, or powder) Contain sulfoxides and disulfides, which can damage red blood cells and cause anemia. Cats are more susceptible than dogs. Garlic is less toxic than onions.
Persimmons Seeds can cause intestinal obstruction and enteritis.
Pits from peaches and plums Can cause obstruction of the digestive tract.
Potato, rhubarb, and tomato leaves; potato and tomato stems
Contain oxalates, which can affect the digestive, nervous, and urinary systems. This is more of a problem in livestock.
Raw eggs Contain an enzyme called avidin, which decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin). This can lead to skin and hair coat problems. Raw eggs may also contain Salmonella.
Raw fish Can result in a thiamine (a B vitamin) deficiency leading to loss of appetite, seizures, and in severe cases, death. More common if raw fish is fed regularly.
Salt If eaten in large quantities it may lead to electrolyte imbalances.
String Can become trapped in the digestive system; called a "string foreign body."
Sugary foods Can lead to obesity, dental problems, and possibly diabetes mellitus.
Table scraps (in large amounts) Table scraps are not nutritionally balanced. They should never be more than 10% of the diet. Fat should be trimmed from meat; bones should not be fed.
Tobacco Contains nicotine, which affects the digestive and nervous systems. Can result in rapid heart beat, collapse, coma, and death.
Yeast dough Can expand and produce gas in the digestive system, causing pain and possible rupture of the stomach or intestines.
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I got 9/10 but some of them were guesses I have to say! I knew about Misteltoe - good job as at Xmas someone had brought some round for us and a load of berries fell on the floor. Bella quickly grabbed as many as she could but thank god she's really good at letting me in her mouth so I was able to hook them out - got 12 berries out ph34r and as far as I know she'd not had time to swallow any and was fine.
I'm not sure about all the things on the list above though - my two are on Barf and get raw chicken (with bones), raw mackeral and raw eggs (of which Zorro eats the shells as well as he loves them).
And as for the garbage thing, try telling that to Bella, she is a canine dustbin! :lol:
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I was told Raw egg yolk was fine but raw egg white was not due to the avidin content.
But the whole egg fine if scrambled. My vet said to give it cooked as the white is eggstremely ( :005:) good for them.
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...and i was told the whole raw egg including the shell is fine....
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I got 8/10. got the bread dough wrong and the xmas plant
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10/10 :o ..couldnt believe it, I'm useless at quizzes :005:
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7/10 for me >:(
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Yeah, have found the egg thing quite confusing. I do give my older ones the whole egg including shell, but puppies have scrambled egg or just the yolk...??? :-\