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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: catcmartin on May 01, 2007, 09:40:17 PM
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Just for info. I bought this stuff from the USA for cleaning both kids teeth as my 11y/o springer had to have her teeth cleaned last year under anaesthetic and was looking for a way of avoiding this ever happening agiain as I felt the toothpaste really wasnt doing a very good jiob. It is getting a good write up in the USA and is now on sale in the UK. I have only been using the stuff for 3 weeks so cant say how effective it is yet. You can buy it from www.petzlife.co.uk.
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Sorry - I missed this when you posted it. But I'd be really grateful if you could report back on how your dog gets on with the new stuff. I have tried every paste and potion previously available in the UK for cleaning my dogs' teeth and every single one has just reinforced their dragon's breath. ::) ::) I took loads of good advice from COL-ers earlier this year (and the dogs have regular dentals at the vets) but I still need a stiff drink to get over every cocker kiss. It would be great if this worked. :D
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I am so sorry I havent replied sooner but have been awful busy. I have been using the spray for about 3 weeks now and my cocker spaniel who always had terrible breath, according to OH he always called him Cod Breath. well this stuff is definatley improving his bad breath, not saying it is all sweetness and light yet but there is a definate improvement and is much better. It does say on the web site it does improve their breath as it kills off bacteria.
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I know that cleaning dogs' teeth is recommended by vets etc to avoid the build up of plaque, but if your dogs regularly have bad breath, it might be an idea to also look at their diet. My two have never really had bad breath. just a bit, well, "doggy" (except when Nelly eats poo, but that's another story ph34r). However, I have recently weaned them completely off meat and they just have Autarky for their dinner. Their breath now is totally non-smelly, they are doing less poos and what they do produce is more solid.
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Charlie is on a special low fat diet because of pancreatitis and gets very few if any treats (none if they dont list how much fat is in them) sees the vet on a regular basis to have his blood levels checked for pancreatitis and aslo to check how his legs are doing after being paralysed.
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I totally agree with you that normally it woud be worth looking hard at diet, Cindere, but I think in Millie and Cassie's case, the reason for the dragon's breath is pretty clear. Both are rescue dogs whose teeth and gums had been horribly neglected in their previous lives. >:( Consequently, both of them had to have loads of teeth out when they came into rescue (and bless MT and Fourpaws for doing it). :angel: Poor little Millie (puppy-farmed) only has her front teeth and one molar each side. ::) In both dogs, the extractions have left lots of little creases, folds and dips in the gums for left over food and bacteria to have a party. I am really keen to make sure they never have to go through that again so I brush their remaining teeth every single night. But it simply means that the smell of rotting food is replaced by the smell of the toothpaste - and the enzymatic chicken-giblet one is simply revolting! So I am really keen to try anything better - and I think I'll give the new one a go, Catcmartin. Thanks very much for your advice and fingers crossed. :-*
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I'm just looking at getting bonnies teeth cleaned her canines are getting a bit yucky and its done under a GA for between £100 - £150. Is an option but not one I'll be doing just yet for now she can have a tooth brush and couple of beef bones :005:
There was an interesting topic though on one of the other forums about the number of teeth in the mouth as its a disqualifying point for breeding with the Gemany Weimaraner club and no end of opening bonnies mouth and trying to count them up is working so to make sure I get it right I'm popping off to the vets tomorrow to take a look... he thinks its hysterical I'd want to know even more so when I explained the reason why :005: No interest in breeding but it is of interest as this is supposedly a hereditary fault.
So has anyone else counted up their dogs teeth?? Are they all there???
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We have found this spray easy to use although have to say the kids arent all that keen on it. As for about 10 secs it has a slight numbing sensation on the gums. They dont get any water for 30mins before and after application. We also brush the teeth as recommended 3 times per week to remove any stuff that has softened. How do I know it has a numbing sensation on the gums, well a lady who is a member of a disabled dog group I belong to to and because this stuff is advertised as of 'human quality' actually tried it before using on her disabled kids. While Charlie doesnt have a teeth problem just I was keen to use it to prevent a problem as am reluctant to have him have a GA after all he has been thru with his spinal surgery, and my 11y/o springer belle had her teeth cleaned under GA (price £120) last year and really dont want to put her thru that again at her age if it can be avoided. I dont find the toothpaste that effective so was looking for a better alternative, and one of the group purchased this for me in the US and sent it over as it wasnt available in the UK at that time, although it is now.
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Really useful info. Thanks for this. I'll let you know how we all get on - but I don't think I'll go so far as your friend in trying it myself first! ::) ::) That's dedication for you. I think I draw the line at dogs' toothpaste, pigs ears and green tripe. Bonio tastes quite nice though. :005: :005:
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Understand completley AnnieG I wouldnt try it myself either. But the Americans are a bit up in the air at the moment with all the food recalls and the number of animals who have died as a result of bad food. Having a DDMA(Disabled Dog my A***) myself I also know how hard it is to keep them healthy and on track so we do tend to be overcautious with them, so I can appreciate why my friend was determined to make sure it would be Ok with her kids, and of course as she had tried it that meant I didnt even have to think about it. I also draw the line at pigs ears and cant even stand the smell of tinned dog food no matter what make it is.
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I have contacted them because I want to get it for my lurcher Flash. Because Flash is allergic to animal protein, he can't have bones and hence his teeth do get plaque (though his breath is ok). I have to be careful what I use with him due to the ingredients and will be getting the actual ingredients of the spay and gel later today just to make sure there is no animal stuff in it.
Thanks for posting the link, if this is working it'll take a load of my mind.
Vera
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I also have to be careful with charlie's diet as he has pancreatitis and is controlled by a strict low fat diet. The UK site has only just been setup about 3 weeks ago, and as you need the ingredients to ensure they are suitable I would contact the site in the USA as they would be better at checking ingredients for you.
http://www.petzlife.com/ and here is their Email address petzlife@yahoo.com
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Thanks for that... the guy at the UK site said he would get them for me within half an hour... If I don't hear from him, I'll contact the US site.
Vera