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Cocker Specific Discussion => Rescue Cockers => Topic started by: daunting on June 02, 2007, 11:03:49 AM
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What a sad wee face, hope she finds a good home :luv:
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Poor Kenzie. I think that she has got the cocker eyes down to a fine art.
Hope she finds the loving home that she deserves :luv:
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Bless her :luv: So very said :'(
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Oh, she is so gorgeous!
Glad I'm not in Wales as I think I'd steal her and love her.
Jools
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Have you watched Kenzies video on you tube its so sad :'(
She looks so happy and friendly
If only I lived nearer to wales :'( :'(
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Ok am I being dim, I clicked the link but I can't find her on there.... Did see the Newfie though ph34r, I had better not look ph34r
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Have you watched Kenzies video on you tube its so sad :'(
She looks so happy and friendly
If only I lived nearer to wales :'( :'(
How do you find that I want to see it :blink:
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Have you watched Kenzies video on you tube its so sad :'(
She looks so happy and friendly
If only I lived nearer to wales :'( :'(
How do you find that I want to see it :blink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmTfKuwbcMY
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How sad :'( , she looks happy at many tears doesnt she :luv: I hope someone takes her soon, can you make a donation to many tears as Id like to give something to help her :luv:
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How sad :'( , she looks happy at many tears doesnt she :luv: I hope someone takes her soon, can you make a donation to many tears as Id like to give something to help her :luv:
If you go to their website there are details for donating on there...
http://www.freewebs.com/manytearsrescue/
Scroll down a bit and there's a 'Make a Donation' button ;)
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How sad :'( , she looks happy at many tears doesnt she :luv: I hope someone takes her soon, can you make a donation to many tears as Id like to give something to help her :luv:
If you go to their website there are details for donating on there...
http://www.freewebs.com/manytearsrescue/
Scroll down a bit and there's a 'Make a Donation' button ;)
Thanks Nicola, im going to call them tomorrow ;)
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Poor Kenzie, I had to look at the Youtube vid didnt I :'( :'( Have forwarded this onto OH ::)
Does anybody know how old Kenzie is ?
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Have forwarded this onto OH
Me too but I don't hold out much hope :'( What a lovely doggie :luv:
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i looked too :'(
typical cocker loves attention :luv: and in need of that special someone
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When I watched that video - I just cried :'(.....bless her ......
I really hope she finds her special home soon.
Heres thinking about poor Kenzie :luv:
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she is soooooooooooo lovely :luv: i watched the u tube and wanted her. my husband said no as we have an already aged blind collie and a 9 month old cocker. kenzie is so sweet a real cutie hope she finds her special home soon. :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv:
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I think she is a sweetheart. Just look at that wonderful waggy stub of a tail and a Cocker cuddle to die for at the end of the video clip. I would love to give her a home. Her blindness is no problem to me as Sammy was blind for his last few years so I know what to expect.
Does anyone know if Many Tears can be contacted by e-mail to ask a few questions about her, as they seem quite adamant on their website that they don't want lots of phone calls as it wastes their time that could be spent with the dogs.
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Hi. They can be contacted on the following address
MTadoption@Blueyonder.co.uk
Good luck.
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When I watched that video - I just cried :'(.....bless her ......
...me too :'( ..she looks a loving girlie :luv: ..hope someone can give her the love she deserves x
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Add me to the list of people that can't persuade OH to consider rehoming Kenzie.
She would probably struggle with a boisterous Border Collie anyway!
I get so angry when dogs are used for breeding then cast aside as if they are worthless.
Hope she finds her forever home soon
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What a cracking little video and what a super dog - the little bottom never stopped waggling! :luv:
I showed it to the OH who stated quite categorically that a fourth dog would see him out of the door for good.... hmm......... :005:
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Finally got to see the video after searching how I wish I could have her its so sad these puppy farms should be shut down Dear Kenzie so hope you find the home you deserve :'(
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It might be a good thing Jools. They may have stopped breeding from her because of her eyes. At least if it is heredity there will be no more puppies born with the chance of having her eye problems
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It might be a good thing Jools. They may have stopped breeding from her because of her eyes. At least if it is heredity there will be no more puppies born with the chance of having her eye problems
Yes, but how many litters did they take off her before they stopped? And are they still breeding using her offspring? >:D >:D There are no words foul enough to describe these puppy farmers - and I speak as one with an MT p-f rescue. Are you thinking about taking Kenzie on? She looks lovely. :luv: :luv:
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As Kenzie found a home yet. If not, will she be up for re-homing once she has had her treatment for her eyes? Can anyone tell me if she gets on with other dogs?
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As Kenzie found a home yet. If not, will she be up for re-homing once she has had her treatment for her eyes? Can anyone tell me if she gets on with other dogs?
You need to contact Many Tears for this information
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Oh Kenzie! She is adorable! I'm sat here crying after watching her video! :'( I might try and show OH tonight but I don't think I'll be able to win him over, I think if we get an ex breeding bitch it will be from a proper breeder rather than a puppy farm though, sad as I'd love to take one of them on but you just don't know what they are going to be like! :'(
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Hi Adele. just felt I had to reply and tell you this ...My OH at first was not happy about having a Puppy Farm bitch :-\ as we had always had our dogs from a cocker breeder...but he finely agreed on having one and we got Holly on Dec 10 th last year...and what a wonderful present she was....he has falling completely in love with her and please believe me, that giving her a home has been the most rewarding thing we have ever done ...to see her learning how to enjoy life ..to hear her bark and roll with sheer joy :luv: cry with joy when we get the leads out to go for our walks WELL .........there are no words to express it. we see daily little wonderful changes in her....Please tell your OH...they are worth the effort, the love they give you is priceless and I'm sure he would never regret giving one a home I know my OH hasn't.
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Thanks for that honeysmum and I'm sure it is very rewarding but at the same time I can understand how he feels and when at the end of the day people say to you to go to a proper breeder for your puppy etc but then we're told to help dogs in shelters... bit of a contradiction isn't it? LOL! It's not just about not supporting puppy farms its about ensuring the dogs have been bred for the right purpose and with the ex breeding bitches this cannot be guaranteed at all. :'(
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Thanks for that honeysmum and I'm sure it is very rewarding but at the same time I can understand how he feels and when at the end of the day people say to you to go to a proper breeder for your puppy etc but then we're told to help dogs in shelters... bit of a contradiction isn't it? LOL! It's not just about not supporting puppy farms its about ensuring the dogs have been bred for the right purpose and with the ex breeding bitches this cannot be guaranteed at all. :'(
I'm not sure I should be replying to this now. It might be better to let the red mist clear from my eyes. >:D >:D I'm glad you can 'LOL' - I'm not sure I can. Are you seriously suggesting that - in order to maintain the purity of the breed - the worn out puppy farm brood bitches should be left to rot? Do you honestly think that ignoring their plight would stop the p-f trade? Of course it wouldn't - it would just bring about a return to what happened before places like MT and Lizzie's Barn started taking them on. At the end of their useful breeding life, they were either knocked on the head and stuffed in bin bags or thrown out on hills and motorways to starve or get run over. That left their daughters free to take over their place on the production line. By all means trumpet to the four winds the stupidity and dangers of buying a pup from a puppy farm. All informed dog owners should do that. But please don't tell those of us who have chosen the difficult path of rehabilitating a spayed brood bitch that we are supporting puppy farms in doing it. Or that we are culpable for not 'ensuring the dogs have been bred for the right purpose.' Too damn right that doesn't even figure on our horizon. What we are trying to do is bring a tiny portion of normality and love and light and happiness to poor abused creatures while they still have some life left. Don't do it if you don't want to. That's fair enough - it doesn't make you either a better or a worse person. But equally don't you dare criticize the motives of those who decide to act differently.
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Having had 4 rescue dogs; two ex breeders from Many Tears, I can assure you that you will never feel more rewarded than when you take one home with you. They are the most dear, sweet, cruelly treated and needy little fellows and the love and affection you get back from them once they come out of their shells and realise that not every human is a cruel, heartless b*****d is positively amazing.
There are so, so many dogs like Kenzie who are desperate for homes, and although they may not be the "perfect" puppy, they are a hundred times as rewarding :D
Personally, I would never have a dog other than one from a rescue home - just my opinion ;)
Annie - just seen your post - I second every word of it...
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I'm sorry you feel that I'm critizing you Annie! :o That is certainly not the case at all and I bow down to all that take on rescue dogs! Sorry but I find your post very angry and I wasn't by any means trying to provoke such a response! In fact if my posts upset people then please delete it by all means! In fact I think once I've calmed down I will do so myself!
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I think I understand what Adele was trying to say - at least, I know that I have emphasised so much to my OH the importance of reputable breeding, and all the reasons why commercially bred puppies are more likely to be sick etc, that he then asked me why I was prepared to consider a rescue dog, because they could well have been commercially bred, and therefore more likely to have these problems :-\
He is quite right - but rescuing a dog is about accepting that, and being selfless enough to recognise that your time with them may be shorter, or your relationship not what you expect with a rescue dog :( Not everyone can always offer a rescue dog what they need; we couldn't when we got Molo and so sought a reputable breeder - but when we are in a position to rescue a dog, then I would not hesitate to do so, accepting that they come with baggage, be that medical or behavioural ;)
It would be lovely if P-F didn't exist, and all dogs were bred reputably, and homed to loving, suitable homes - but it doesn't happen, and never will, imo :'(
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Lets not forget the stud dogs too - its not just the breeding bitches who have a tough time, the dogs are often treated worse than the bitches (certainly if the state of Parker was anything to go by) >:D
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I think if we get an ex breeding bitch it will be from a proper breeder
I am not sure that there will be many of these around. Don't most reputable breeders keep their dogs regardless? I know Kali's breeder wouldn't dream of selling any of her babies that were beyond breeding :-\
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I don't know how many there are around Sheryl but when I mentioned to my breeder friend about getting an ex breeding bitch she told me to go to her to ask for help rather than getting one from a shelter as there are often some around that she knows of! I've seen quite a few on breeders sites before as well.
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I don't know how many there are around Sheryl but when I mentioned to my breeder friend about getting an ex breeding bitch she told me to go to her to ask for help rather than getting one from a shelter as there are often some around that she knows of! I've seen quite a few on breeders sites before as well.
Hmm - not that the breeder will have any financial interest of course... :shades:
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Sorry Jeeves I think "the breeder" would be slightly put out by that statement being a very experienced one who knows me and my children and is also a member of the forum! I think I'm going to leave this thread now as it's totally OT and I'm beginning to feel that as I haven't rescued a cocker I'm not able to make comments about rescued cockers! Can I just say though that I recommend to anyone who speaks to me about getting a dog, if their situation is suitable, they look at rescue dogs! Now can we stop with the bashings please? :o
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Oh Adele, I wasn't bashing you :-\ Thats why I phrased my answer the way I did because I don't know what breeders do, I can only go by Kali's breeder and what I would do if it were me. No offence meant :blink:
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Oh Adele, I wasn't bashing you :-\ Thats why I phrased my answer the way I did because I don't know what breeders do, I can only go by Kali's breeder and what I would do if it were me. No offence meant :blink:
Thanks Sheryl, I don't know oodles of breeders (don't you love that word?) but I know a couple and they are VERY reputable breeders. Anyway, this is totally off topic, sorry Kenzie, my fault! :-\ I am sure there is a very loving happy home out for you there right somewhere!
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Tell me if I'm wrong, but the purpose of this "Rescue Forum" is to find homes for the unfortunate cockers who find themselfs in the horror movies, that need no explanation and is the reason the are at the "Last chance Kennel" and that is what being on COL is about.
Our job, and I mean all cocker lovers, is to make sure that what they have seen before, never happens again. Preferably, by means of being given a forever home, preferably, through COL.
This rescue forum shouldn't be about all our procratinations and theories on cockers and what we can cope with and all the 'If only"? Or I want a rescue but .... or we do, but....
Forget what WE, and I include myself, feel... And start to concentrate on the real issue. This cocker/S needs a home: Can we give this baby a home? Yes or No! End of story.
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Tell me if I'm wrong, but the purpose of this "Rescue Forum" is to find homes for the unfortunate cockers who find themselfs in the horror movies, that need no explanation and is the reason the are at the "Last chance Kennel" and that is what being on COL is about.
Our job, and I mean all cocker lovers, is to make sure that what they have seen before, never happens again. Preferably, by means of being given a forever home, preferably, through COL.
This rescue forum shouldn't be about all our procratinations and theories on cockers and what we can cope with and all the 'If only"? Or I want a rescue but .... or we do, but....
Forget what WE, and I include myself, feel... And start to concentrate on the real issue. This cocker/S needs a home: Can we give this baby a home? Yes or No! End of story.
This is a discussion forum - hence discussion just *happens*, sometimes........... ;)
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Discussion....I agree. But surely if its on therescue thread. the discussion should be about the "Issue"? Rescue????? I truely understand all the emotions that COL MEMBERS show, but sometime I feel the real purpose of the resuce thread gets lost....And Like it or not, that doesn't find a home for all the cockers on the rescue page....If someone wants to discuss a general subject, be it, about recue, or puppy farm dogs, then use the genral forum????? Or maybe I've missed the purpose of the COL rescue thread?????
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Discussion....I agree. But surely if its on therescue thread. the discussion should be about the "Issue"? Rescue????? I truely understand all the emotions that COL MEMBERS show, but sometime I feel the real purpose of the resuce thread gets lost....And Like it or not, that doesn't find a home for all the cockers on the rescue page....If someone wants to discuss a general subject, be it, about recue, or puppy farm dogs, then use the genral forum????? Or maybe I've missed the purpose of the COL rescue thread?????
Personally, I've always been very impressed with the way Penny and the other Mods have moderated these boards.....allowing discussion to take place, but not get out of hand and detract too much from the initial issue ;)
COL is not a rescue organisation in it's own right - the rescue board is a place to highlight the plight of cockers in need of homes that we may have seen.......it is not COL responsibility to find the dogs a home........ :-\
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.. .and after all that lovely discussion we can hopefully get back to rehoming Kenzie.
If anyone wants to discuss the whys and wherefores of rescue dogs then may be we can have a thread in the 'discussion forum' ;)
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This girl is on hold at the moment and MT aren't sure when she'll be back up for adoption so will close for now
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Sorry probably should have posted this somewhere else, but I was wondering if anyone knows what has happened with Kenzie at Many Tears. Her post hasn't been updated since August and I don't want to contact them as I know they are really busy.
Thanks
Debbie
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Debbie,
Kenzie pulled on my heartstrings too.
An update would be wonderful, if I remember rightly did she have some eye problems, poor thing :'(