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Cocker Specific Discussion => Grooming => Topic started by: Caprilli on September 28, 2007, 08:25:27 PM

Title: Puppy grooming
Post by: Caprilli on September 28, 2007, 08:25:27 PM
OK, here we go.......... so far I have been brave enough to trim my puppies paws and to comb her every second day. I also cut out all hair from the inside of her ear. She is now 15 weeks of age and the only thing she does mind is when I cut the hair on the inside of her ear. Can any hair be taken away from the top of the ears yet or the totally useless hair behind her ear? How often can I bathe her safely as I do take her to ringcraft classes weekly and she finds it amusing to get herself covered in all sort of sticky things that she can pick up in the Garden:)
Which shampoos and conditioners should I use?

(http://www.millview.org/assets/images/lucyDuckie.jpg)
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Boof on September 28, 2007, 08:33:27 PM
I would say just whenever she needs it, because as you say; as soon as they're clean they find something disgusting to roll in so it'll be a never ending circle.  :005:

Ozzy who is 6 months has only had a couple of baths (enough for him to get used to the idea) using a mild Teatree puppy conditioner and he does fine.

You have a beautiful girl there by the way. Lovely photo.  :luv:
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: White Bryony on September 28, 2007, 09:03:33 PM
Sorry no help with the grooming.

But just had to say she is absolutely stunning ... what a beautiful likkle girl  :luv:  :luv:
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Caprilli on September 28, 2007, 09:13:15 PM
Thank you for your kind comments on Lucy. It is mainly her tummy that ends up black (literally) and of course her ears that she loves to dip into anything oily..... ah well  - and she keeps finding this sticky stuff in the Garden that all my other dogs managed to avoid in the six years that we have been living here. Most of the visible residue I am able to comb out  but her coat still feels sticky even if it looks nice.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Aearoniel on September 28, 2007, 09:43:24 PM
wow she is lovely! so beautiful, I wish Callies ears were that long, hers still look really short (she's 17wks) does trimming help them look longer?
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Caprilli on September 28, 2007, 10:14:25 PM
I did not trim Lucy's ears at all. All I did was cut out the long hair around the inside of her actual ear part so that I can see if anything gets stuck and to assure that plenty of air gets to the inside of her hair. The long hair at the top of her ears makes her look a bit like Lady from Lady and Tramp:)

Stephanie
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: LurcherGirl on September 28, 2007, 11:35:45 PM
Re shampoo: Jesse (American Cocker) gets a bath every one or two weeks. I use human shampoo for shiny hair (Elvive at the moment, have also used Pantene and Tresseme) diluted and the human conditioner. I get excellent results.

Vera
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Caprilli on September 29, 2007, 08:30:06 AM
Vera do you use any grooming spray's to keep them cleaner for longer afterwards? Also how do you guys stop the ears from looking totally un-groomed within minutes of them having been groomed?

Stephanie
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Beth on September 29, 2007, 03:12:31 PM
Wowwwww what a beautiful girl. :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv:

You need a snood (http://www.dormercrafts.co.uk/designerdogwear.html) to keep her ears nice. ;)
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Caprilli on September 29, 2007, 06:02:36 PM
I do have a snood but I can hardly make her wear one all the time:) Also if I combed her, put a snood on, drive to ringcraft and take the snood off her ears look like she has dipped them in grease again. Surely that cannot be right?

Stephanie
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Cayley on September 29, 2007, 09:28:05 PM
If you intend to show her you should try and handstrip the top of the ears, this can only happen when the puppy coat is ready to come out at anything from 6 months to 1 year old.
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: CraftySam on September 29, 2007, 09:52:57 PM
I use Ice on Ice Grooming Spray which says it repells dirt amongst other things.  I get it from here  http://www.hubintsecured.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000099.cgi?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ehubintsecured%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2fP_index%2ehtml&WD=ice&SHOP=%20&PN=Chris_Christensen_Grooming_Spray%2ehtml%23a498#a498

That was recommended on the American Cocker forum by an experienced show person and its really good.  She also recommended Pantene Ice Shine Shampoo and Conditioner which I was staggered by at first, didn't think you were supposed to use "human" shampoo on dogs. Well she knew what she was talking about! Morgan coat and skin has never looked better.
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Caprilli on September 30, 2007, 06:58:46 AM
Hi there,

thank you very much. So I will stay well clear of the scissor to ear temptation and will shop at H.U.B. and Boots. Has anybody ever heart of the KW range by Karin Winter? Apparently it is a Danish shampoo and according to a friend of mine who breeds Cocker Spaniels in Scandinavia the best he has ever tried? I could not find it on the net at all.

Greetings,
Stephanie
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: JaspersMum on September 30, 2007, 08:25:11 AM
Just wanted to say what a absolutely beautiful colour - we need lots more photos to judge properly  ;)

Or just send her to me straight away........ :shades:
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Caprilli on September 30, 2007, 08:39:37 AM
Thank you for the coment but she is definately staying here  ;) Some more pictures can be found here: http://www.millview.org/html/lucygalerie.html  I will try and get some stacked pictures of her but I need somebody to show me how to stack a Cocker Spaniel properly first of all  :005:

Greetings,
Stephanie
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: LurcherGirl on October 01, 2007, 11:55:57 AM
Vera do you use any grooming spray's to keep them cleaner for longer afterwards? Also how do you guys stop the ears from looking totally un-groomed within minutes of them having been groomed?

Stephanie
Yes, I use Ice on Ice leave in conditioner. Seems to be good, having said though, Jesse's coat is still quite cottony at the moment and does attract mud quite easily. But the adult coat is slowly coming through and should make life a bit easier.

Vera
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Becky and Wilson on October 01, 2007, 12:29:57 PM
I have no tips just wanted to say how beautiful she is!  Absolutely stunning!   :luv:
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: isla on October 01, 2007, 04:51:20 PM
Dear God she's gorgeous  :luv:

I like the Squirt range. the detangler is fab
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Caprilli on October 01, 2007, 06:32:46 PM
Do you think detangler will work?

http://www.millview.org/assets/images/LucyMuddy.JPG
http://www.millview.org/assets/images/LucyMuddy-Fancy.JPG

Note the nice and clean Dalmatian next to her!

http://www.millview.org/assets/images/LucyMuddy2.JPG

She helped me in the Garden today and I just remembered why I always had more Dalmatians than Cockers even tough the littler critters are sooo adorable  :005:

Greetings,
Stephanie
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: JaspersMum on October 01, 2007, 07:47:46 PM
What is about dalmations and dirt!  We walked with friend and her dalmation at the weekend and true to form, she tiptoes round every bit of mud and looks soooo disdainful at my two cockers up to their necks in DIRTY water....

We get back from every walk with dirty dogs, even if it is a dry walk, Holly is ALWAYS as clean as when she started, even her feet!
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Caprilli on October 01, 2007, 08:26:43 PM
My liver spotted girl is like the Dalmatian that you describe......... We call her Queen Mum. The Mum part is added due to the fact that she is nine years of age and a Grandma by now:) Fancy, the black spotted girl from the picture will swim everywhere and roll in mud whenever it is available BUT she is clean within a couple of minutes and there lays the big difference:)
Fancy is also often referred to as our spotted Labrador as she will retrieve anything from anywhere but she is unusual for a Dalmatian and a very speciel friend of mine  :luv:

Stephanie
Title: Re: Puppy grooming
Post by: Vivienne on October 10, 2007, 02:52:16 PM
Did you see the one of her in the mac OOOHHHH I want one (doggie in a mac) really stunning little girl.

Viv