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Cocker Specific Discussion => General Cocker Spaniel Discussion => Topic started by: Sarah.H on May 07, 2008, 04:57:50 PM
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Or I'd now be wondering if I had a dominant dog with rage syndrome >:(. She committed the terrible crime of snapping at strangers when in a strange place while they held her down and tried to stick needles in her leg, what a monster! I've just picked her up from having a small lump removed from her back and had a talk from the vet about how I need to start eating out of her bowl and walking through doors first to make her realise she isn't dominant ::). And that cocker's can get rage syndrome so be aware of it >:(. I did tell them that she's been re-homed to me, never had treatment from a vet before and has shown some aggression when feeling threatened or on my lap so I was surprised that they had that attitude about her.
So thank you COL'ers that have pointed me in the right direction in the past (and reccomended the Culture Clash) or I'd be one worried mum now! And a very wobbly Millie says thank you too :luv: :luv:.
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Aww poor Millie, :luv: glad to hear your Mum is very clever and not taking any notice of what that silly Vet had to say about being dominant :o hope you feel better soon Millie,
and yes, where would we be without all the wonderful help on COL :luv: ;)
George and Hamish send cocker hugs and kisses to you :-* :-*
Stephanie, George and Hamish xxx
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:-\ so sorry you had to go through that Millie - bless you for not biting the vets face off in fear :luv: :luv:
hope you are BOTH feeling better now you're home and have had a cuddle - Millie, you are very lucky your mum understands you like she does :luv:
(it's scary isn't it - how many cockers have gone down that path due to vets like this :'( :'( )
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Well, wasn't she remarkably good for only snapping at them and not actually biting them! Well done Millie.
Do they realise that dogs can bite if they want to, and that snapping is just a final warning, not a bad aim!?
Some vets..... >:D >:D >:D
Thank goodness for COL. We are all so much better off than those who only have that vet and his advice to go on. But it does make you wonder how many dogs he has recommended be PTS when they could have been helped :'(
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A clients vet told my client last night that the way to solve her dogs separation anxiety was to remove his vocal chords! >:D >:D >:D
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A clients vet told my client last night that the way to solve her dogs separation anxiety was to remove his vocal chords! >:D >:D >:D
God thats awful! The trainer from Charlies puppy classes knows someone that had her two dogs de-barked, unbelievable.
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A clients vet told my client last night that the way to solve her dogs separation anxiety was to remove his vocal chords! >:D >:D >:D
:o :o :o >:D
I admit Elmo waits til i say he can go through doors/gates but thats for a safety point of view not a dominance one ::) As for eating first.....bo**ocks to that :D
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Where is that vet, I think Buddy needs to see him! ;)
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Aaaw, poor Millie, what a stoopid vet. I would probably have had someone's hand off if they had done that to me without a by your leave >:( It shouldn't but it still amazes me how many peoples view of dogs is from the Dark Ages >:( That is totally irresponsible for a vet to talk like that - and the scary thing is how many people will think he knows what he's talking about. >:D
Hope Millie is OK :-*
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Well done, Millie for coping so well - I hope you feel better soon :luv:
We were given the same lecture by a vet when Molo had a lumpectomy; they wrote "snappy and controlling" on his notes and told me it was dangerous to have him in the house with lil'bit ::) The fact that he had been pinned down by strangers without a sedative for a biopsy a week earlier was irrelevant. The vets opinion was reinforced when a few months later, Molo had to have a dry-eye test and needed sedating, apparently the vet "....had never had to sedate a dog for this procedure before...." >:(
I asked for, and got, a consultation with the practice behaviourist - who took him off me for 20 minutes to visit "behind the scenes" and she popped him up on an exam table, had some of the nurses examine him etc - and when she brought him back she said he was one of the least anxious dogs she had seen :005:
My experience is that younger vets seems less tolerant of "dog behaviour" than the older, more experienced ones - perhaps it is because they have grown up in a culture which includes popular light entertainment shows that make dog training look simple ::)
Try not to worry...and take no notice of the vet - although you could recommend a copy of The Culture Clash ;)
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A clients vet told my client last night that the way to solve her dogs separation anxiety was to remove his vocal chords! >:D >:D >:D
Eh??!!!!! Oh my god :o :o
I'm glad Millie is home and she's ok Sarah, poor girl she must have been really scared and it sounds like she restrained herself well :luv:
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Well done, Millie for coping so well - I hope you feel better soon :luv:
We were given the same lecture by a vet when Molo had a lumpectomy; they wrote "snappy and controlling" on his notes and told me it was dangerous to have him in the house with lil'bit ::) The fact that he had been pinned down by strangers without a sedative for a biopsy a week earlier was irrelevant. The vets opinion was reinforced when a few months later, Molo had to have a dry-eye test and needed sedating, apparently the vet "....had never had to sedate a dog for this procedure before...." >:(
I asked for, and got, a consultation with the practice behaviourist - who took him off me for 20 minutes to visit "behind the scenes" and she popped him up on an exam table, had some of the nurses examine him etc - and when she brought him back she said he was one of the least anxious dogs she had seen :005:
My experience is that younger vets seems less tolerant of "dog behaviour" than the older, more experienced ones - perhaps it is because they have grown up in a culture which includes popular light entertainment shows that make dog training look simple ::)
Try not to worry...and take no notice of the vet - although you could recommend a copy of The Culture Clash ;)
Yeah Millie had a biopsy last week and I was really surprised she didn't even put some local in, poor Millie really yelped when she did it, the vet was quite young as well.
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See now in my house we have it completely the wrong way around....we never think as to who is eating 1st but 9 times out of 10 its the dogs....the way I see it if they are full of their dinner they try to persuade me to give them mine less than if they are hungry :D
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See now in my house we have it completely the wrong way around....we never think as to who is eating 1st but 9 times out of 10 its the dogs....the way I see it if they are full of their dinner they try to persuade me to give them mine less than if they are hungry :D
Yep, all wrong here too - I am always the last one to get fed. ::) By the time I have finished feeding the animals, I can't be bothered to cook for me :-\ :005: If there were any justice in the world I would be thin >:( :lol2:
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Millie - hope you get over your trip to the vets real soon :luv:
Rage - yep sounds like your vet needs to read culture clash :shades:
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I have to thank COL too :luv: I had awful troubles with Ben when he was young and thought that I really did have a dog from hell ::) And yes, my vet (old and experienced) mentioned rage especially in gold/red cockers :o
With a lot of support from this site (and a few members that know who they are) I got through the 'post puppy depression' and now have an understanding of Ben's behaviour. He is never going to be an easy dog but we live together in harmony! A bit of growing up on Ben's part and a bit of learning from me has worked wonders. Without COL I don't know where we'd be :luv:
Millie - don't let your mum eat out of your bowl :005:
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And they are the ones in the know????
Murphy is due his booster next month, he has a note on his computerised card thingy me jiggy saying - should be muzzled ph34r
He's just scared cos a big bad man had to staple his eyelid and then had the distaste to shove a finger up his a**e. I'd probably need muzzled to for future visits :005:
Hope you're feeling better Millie xx
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A clients vet told my client last night that the way to solve her dogs separation anxiety was to remove his vocal chords! >:D >:D >:D
God thats awful! The trainer from Charlies puppy classes knows someone that had her two dogs de-barked, unbelievable.
Oh my doG: I didn't know such barbaric things were allowed - shudder, shudder >:D >:D
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Yep, all wrong here too - I am always the last one to get fed. By the time I have finished feeding the animals, I can't be bothered to cook for me If there were any justice in the world I would be thin
That sounds familiar :005:
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when kizzy was about 4 she had to be knocked out to have ears cleaned and vet was going to remove small warty lump from her back , well he forgot ! anyway his assistant said never mind he can whip it off while shes awake ,i said wont that hurt, "oh they dont feel pain like us " she said, i said well if i stick a needle in her then in you i bet you will both yelp in pain, it didnt go down very well but i was so angry she wasnt there for very long
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when kizzy was about 4 she had to be knocked out to have ears cleaned and vet was going to remove small warty lump from her back , well he forgot ! anyway his assistant said never mind he can whip it off while shes awake ,i said wont that hurt, "oh they dont feel pain like us " she said, i said well if i stick a needle in her then in you i bet you will both yelp in pain, it didnt go down very well but i was so angry she wasnt there for very long
I guess that vet hadn't treated many cockers then! :005: You only need to step near Ben's feet or tail for him to squeal like a baby. ::) Oh yes, he feels pain! :005:
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yes that makes it worse somehow because all cockers are just great big soft babies,
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We're back to the vets again for 5 for a check up on the wound so god knows how Millies going to react to her :-\. I will tell her how dominant Millies been the last two days, especially how she rolls around wagging her tail when I'm putting her lamp shade back on ;) :lol2:. Might ask why the estimate was £160 and the bill on wednesday was £240 :o being as there was no complications and she never needed antibiotics I cant work it out! But the main thing is Millie has recovered really well and the vets thinks it was a thorn causing the lump.
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How did you get on???
Hope all went well :-* including sorting the cost out
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Ditto, hope all went well! Chloe just loves everyone and isn't in the slightest bit bothered about jabs or anything! Wait until the end of the month when we go and see the specialist though! EEEK! The vets we go to now seem lovely, the last one we saw who was more into eyes but not a specialist was great and loved Chloe to bits! Got down on eye level with her and started "talking dog" with her! I don't think anybody could upset Chloe unless she had a stick or chew! ::)
I can't believe people remove vocal chords though! Shocking! >:D
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You only need to step near Ben's feet or tail for him to squeal like a baby. ::) Oh yes, he feels pain! :005:
Blimey, you mean Ben has grown a tail now?? :shades: :lol2:
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You only need to step near Ben's feet or tail for him to squeal like a baby. ::) Oh yes, he feels pain! :005:
Blimey, you mean Ben has grown a tail now?? :shades: :lol2:
:o :o :o :o :o ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :o :o :o :o :o
Oops!
Well, Ben does squeal! Sorry, that should have read "Buddy" :005: :005:
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Different vet! She was lovely and could tell straight away that Millie was anxious, she knelt down and examined her on the floor and fed her a biscuit :luv:. Everything looks fine so fingers crossed that is all over now (dissolveable stitches), but she was so nice that I didn't complain - I'm a wuss! ph34r
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I'd be the same, but I would be asking for the nice vet every time from now on!