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Cocker Specific Discussion => Behaviour & Training => Topic started by: MegandMolly on December 23, 2008, 11:16:47 PM
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I was curious if some colours of cocker were generally more hyper or placid than others?
At the moment I've got a hyper black & white in the house, a relatively calm blue roan, and a totally chilled out golden (all show types).
Are some colours 'known' to be more hyper than others? or is it more the dog's training and personality?
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Personally I don't think it matters really re colour and more down to breeding and lifestyle so far.
I've had really hyper/very lively blue roans here (food wasn' the reason) and totally chilled ones.
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I've got a chilled show type orange roan, manic part worker Blue roan (only when out) but chilled show gold - no way! She's an absolute manic hyper-overdrive, but is getting a bit better with age ::) I reckon on her being calm on about her 10th birthday :o
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I'd be interested in everyone answers to this as I've been told that orange roans are more lively and less biddable than the blues - :shades:
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Taz is black and until recently my son claimed he had hyper activity disorder. However i have now changed his food and walk him where he has less dogs to play with and he is generally much calmer all round. I guess some of it could be due to age as well (he is now 18 months).
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I don't think it's anything to do with 'colour' I think you can get anything in any colour :lol: For the record though I've had an extremely hyper and needy light gold show cocker and a chilled out but 'up for it when he fancies' dark blue roan show type. :D
Hannah xxx
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but chilled show gold - no way! She's an absolute manic hyper-overdrive, but is getting a bit better with age ::) I reckon on her being calm on about her 10th birthday :o
:005: ph34r Opps
Another mad Gold here
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I have a goldie/white action man here and a choccy/white female. Hard to know who is the more active as they are both young and spur each other on. But they will also curl up on the settee and sleep together too. ;)
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but chilled show gold - no way! She's an absolute manic hyper-overdrive, but is getting a bit better with age ::) I reckon on her being calm on about her 10th birthday :o
:005: ph34r Opps
Another mad Gold here
They accused us of lieing at ringcraft, she was soo chilled, all she wanted to do was sleep and that waqs in the Christmas party, music loud, electric guitars, santa, food about and all the other dogs! ::) Thinking she's getting it that "hyper" is for home and outside. quiet is for shows :angel: Till Saturday anyway !
Did you know she can do vertical take-off to jump on your lap and then it's tongue down your throat before you know she's there. The boys have never been as...agile ::)
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In American Cockers, they say that solid colours are calmer than parti... But whenever the subject is discussed on forums, it seems there are as many exceptions to that rule as there are matches... :005:
It is potentially possible that character traits are linked to colours, but I wouldn't use it as a reliable predictor of temperament... ;)
Vera
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My golden Bailey(3) is a nutter and my black girl Rosie (17 months) is very quiet and gentle :luv:
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I don't think it's anything to do with colour. William's parents are a very laid back orange roan dog and a very busy and fizzy blue roan bitch. I don't see all of the litter now, but of those I've seen since they were small puppies there's -
my William - orange roan boy, very laid back, very confident.
Orange roan girl - very busy, just like her blue roan mum.
Orange roan boy - a bit of a barker and excitable (although, to be fair, I haven't seen him since he was about 9 moths old)
Blue roan boy - very laid back, very confident.
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Alfie (black and white) is as mad as a hatter :005: But he is also the most lovable and gentle cocker that I have had. He really doesn't have a nasty bone in his body, I accidentally pulled his fur with the comb the other day whilst on the grooming table and he put his front paws on my shoulders and kissed me to death :luv: :005:
Yet, Alfie's dad and mum are soooo calm, so it cant simply be down to genetics. I believe a lot of it is their environment, I know I like a cheeky cocker, so I have probably reinforced behaviours subconsciously.
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I have a Rescue Blue Roan who is really docile. We joke that he is on something as sometimes he looks doped up and only seems to have one expression, Bless him I don't think there's much between those ears. :005: I also have a Black Bitch who when out never stops and follows scents the whole time she is out and pretty much ignores everyone else. I also have her three pups. 1 Golden boy who is a very well behaved biddable character and 2 Golden Bitches who are the mad ones and dash around together constantly. I love them all of course and they are all very loving themselves. Each have there own characters and I think thats all it is. Ever dog is an individual.
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my dog Jack is liver and has always been pretty chilled, my lemon bitch has been mad since the day she was born
Bries breeder told us she had never had to use a stair gate until the pups were about 7weeks old as no young pups had ever tried to climb the stairs, they found Brie half way up them at 5weeks :005:
Also while we were at the breeders house Brie managed to scramble up a wall and the breeder caught her before she flung her self off.
There was three adults there watching her but she was quick as lightening. Shes always coming home with little cuts and scratches from where shes thrown herself through something. ::)
She terrified me the other day when she ran off and scrambled up at 20ft banking my heart is in my mouth alot around Brie she has absolutly no sense of danger and is definently not scared of heights.
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Here's another recent thread on the same theme :-
http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=52668.0
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I don't think colour has anything to do with temperament, it's more a case of early upbringing. Akin to the argument of nature versus nurture.
Charley - golden - is very gentle and easygoing: he doesn't have a bad bone in his body. My previous golden and my black cocker were the same. Lauren, orange roan, whom I mind, is also a very loving little dog.
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We have a totally chilled choc & white working type girl, a black with white bib 4mth old working type girl also very chilled but eager at the same time with the most waggly tail & bum I've ever seen, a golden show type 5 mth old boy who is completely dipsy (but very funny - springs around like Bambi) & are doggy-sitting (poss permanently) a black & white 3mth old show type girl who is unbelievably cheeky & climbs like a monkey :luv: :luv:
Don't know about colour, ours don't even fit the mould of show-types generally being more calm than working types - so far I'd say they're the other way around :005:
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none of these generalisations take into account the individuality of each pup - even within a litter of same colour pups you get a feisty one, a quiet one, a laid back one, an adventurous one. Nurture of course is relevant and you can 'shape' a personality...to a point.
Have to say generalisations are just that - it's like saying all people with brown hair are more clever than people with blonde hair....
Also, I don't think you can measure a personality with a pup - I don't think dogs truly form their final adult personalities until they're bout 18 months old at least, and there are vast changes from their puppy days ;) Jarv's personality at 5 months compared to 2 years old is COMPLETELY different...
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Jarv's personality at 5 months compared to 2 years old is COMPLETELY different...
and now Wilf is going through a very norty midlife crisis age 5 :005:
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I'd be interested in everyone answers to this as I've been told that orange roans are more lively and less biddable than the blues - :shades:
Thats interesting - my orange boy is excitable but an absolutely lovely, gentle boy ;) but he is still young at 14 months so he's at that teen stage :005:
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Jarv's personality at 5 months compared to 2 years old is COMPLETELY different...
and now Wilf is going through a very norty midlife crisis age 5 :005:
could that be because of everything that's happened to Ruby? It would be unavoidable not to have treated her differently through her illness :-\
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Jarv's personality at 5 months compared to 2 years old is COMPLETELY different...
and now Wilf is going through a very norty midlife crisis age 5 :005:
could that be because of everything that's happened to Ruby? It would be unavoidable not to have treated her differently through her illness :-\
No I think Wilf is just Wilf really --- he started before her eye problem did, when he hit 5 in May.
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Jarv's personality at 5 months compared to 2 years old is COMPLETELY different...
and now Wilf is going through a very norty midlife crisis age 5 :005:
Funny, you say that, because I think Bailey is doing the same ::)
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Will be surfboards and motorbikes before you know it! :005:
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We have a blue roan 10 month old girl who was quieter until we got another playmate for her which is a 7 month old choc roan and tan who was quiet until he met willow.
We now have 2 mad dogs who are full of energy some of the time and quiet and placid some of the time.
They are great fun and I wouldn't change anything, even though they jumped on me playing today and broke the lens of my rimless specs >:D Just lucky I work in a opticians and get a discount!