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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: rwasinski on September 05, 2009, 10:11:24 PM
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I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place, please could the Mods move the post to health if it should be there
Blodwen has had a rough day - started out unusual as she normally does a number two overnight and we woke up to find no poops on the kitchen floor
Started off with breakfast OK, wouldnt eat her lunch from her bowl so we put it into her distraction ball and she ate it from there and we took her for a walk at around 2pm. She started doing a number two which seemed fine and then ended up being quite pale and runny.
We brought her home and she took herself outside to the garden where she started to go again until her poo was like brown liquid - poor baby.
Then she started being sick - what came up was her food from lunch along with some frozen carrots and some grass - nothing out of the ordinary or cause for alarm. She then went out again and was sick again - mostly bile.
She has mainly been herself today and was running around quite merrily on her walk before and after her first runny poo, and after she was sick. She has been listless tonight - we havent fed her. We did give her water to keep her hydrated but she was sick again immediately after so we are just giving her small sips of water which she has kept down so far tonight. We cannot trace the cause to anything unusual she may have eaten but will monitor her tonight and tomorrow, keep her on plain rice and call the vet if she hasnt improved in the morning. Is there anything that anyone can recommend that we do to make sure she is OK?
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One thing I would add is that I did give her a gravy bone for the very first time today - she is 17 weeks old. Her first runny poo came about an hour after giving her this. Initially this seemed too quick to have this severe effect on her but could the gravy bone have caused this reaction so quickly?
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She has probably eaten something she shouldn't have from the garden or bin perhaps, the only thing I would worry about at the moment is dehydration as she is still very young, is she drinking at all when you say listless is she getting up and walking around or just lying there??
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Poor little girl :'( Mine cannot have gravy bones causes very bad tummy.
As she is only a baby keep a close eye on her she will dehydrate very quickly.
I always miss a meal or 2 when they are poorly then start with white fish cooked in the microwave, just small portions. Pro Kolin is good for a poorly tum.
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She is starting to perk up and has got up herself to get a drink. We're trying to control her drinking so she has little and often to make sure she's hydrated and doesn't bring the water up again.
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It could have been the gravy bone, Duggie was sick and had a runny poo the other day after stealing a Bonio off Lance. ::)
Keep a close eye on her and call the vet if you are in the slightest bit worried. Here's hoping she will be as right as rain tomorrow. :luv:
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She is starting to perk up and has got up herself to get a drink. We're trying to control her drinking so she has little and often to make sure she's hydrated and doesn't bring the water up again.
Thats a good sign as long as she is drinking and keeping it down she will be fine overnight, looks like it could have been the gravy bone going by the other posts
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Hopefully she will continue to improve and it was just the gravy bone that upset her tummy,
but please keep a very close watch on her tonight being very young they can deteriorate very quickly, the same thing happened to my pup with being sick and runny poos around her age and although he was drinking water he became very listless he was taken to the vets and kept there for two days, I really thought I was going to lose him.........so just keep a very close eye on her tonight and please don't hesitate to call the vet if she starts to deteriorate again..
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There does seem to be a lot of tummy upsets in pups at the moment, my Willow and Freddie (supposed to be going to his new home tomorrow) both have runny bums, they are 9 & 10 weeks, poor things have been starved today, been giving them Pro-Kolin (as per vets instructions) but both as bright as buttons, still running around playing, chasing each other, hopefully things will improve tomorrow. Both drinking ok too!
Hope Blodwen is ok soon too.
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Thanks everyone so much for posting. We were so worried as this hasn't happened before. It must have been the Gravy Bone - aaargh! I feel so bad after just wanting to give her a yummy treat - but know now to keep away from them at least until she is a lot older.
We kept her in our bedroom overnight, got up a few times to take her out throughout the night and to give her regular sips of water. She has not been sick again thank goodness. We will give her small amounts of rice and chicken today and just watch her carefully. She has brightened up this morning now and is playing (and chewing!) quite happily with the duvet and my feet.
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I am so happy to see your little baby is feeling so much better this morning :clapping:
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Glad Blod is feeling better, they are such a worry aren't they ::)
Belle sends her little 'sis' a cocker kiss and cuddle :luv:
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Blod had been quite lively now for a few hours this morning, we gave her a few tablespoons of rice and a smidge of chicken breast at about 7.45am and seemed back to her normal self.
She's been sitting on the sofa napping for a while and has just been sick again - the rice came up. :-\
She is sleeping now and we are going to keep her sipping water.
Such a worry. She had such a huge appetite this morning so isnt off her food and has been following us and indicating for more food and treats (which we haven't given her).
Should we avoid feeding her at all or try again this evening? It's so frustrating and sad to see her unsettled like this.
Have done a search for Pro Kolin - can you pick it up easily? Our vet is shut today so we'll call the emergency vet if things get worse, but it means we can't get it from there. Otherwise I will buy it over the internet for future use, just want something to give her today.
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I would stop the chicken and rice and try to pop out and get white fish something cheap like Coley and cook in microwave for something to eat later. :blink:
( but just a small portion) with no rice :blink:
We get our Pro Kolin from the internet ... but that not going to help you out today unfortunatly :-\
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I'm gald Blodwen is feeling better today ;)
No advice about pro-kolin as we've only ever got it from the vets (rarely thankfully).
I agree with the white fish too that Bracken has suggested too ;)
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I think Pro Kolin is something to put the good bacteria back in the gut and settle it when it's irritated, so perhaps you could try a teaspoon of plain natural yoghurt? It's pretty similar and might help to settle blod's tum. As she's been sick again, I'd leave her with no food for now until later on this afternoon. If you're struggling to get her to drink, ice cubes can be good as they enjoy chewing them -just supervise her if you do!
Keep an eye on her gums, make sure they stay pink. Hope she's feeling better soon! :luv:
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OK I've been out and bought cod fillets (what was in Marks and Spencer frozen food section!) and steamed a couple of pieces - she has had a small amount about an hour ago and so far so good. She is drinking water thank goodness- small but frequent sips to keep her fluids up. Poor love is starving and we are using ice cubes as treats because she loves those - she sits by the freezer and waits ever so patiently! I think she'd wait there for hours just for her ice cube!
I will whizz out and get some plain yoghurt now and give her a tablespoon.
Thank you so much for all your help. We would be lost without COL to turn to at times like these.
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M&S cod fillets :blink: lucky girl. Maybe we should come for tea :005: :blink:
If you want to invest in a bag of frozen fish Aldi do a large bag for about £2.50 ish we normally keep some in the freezer for poorly tums and treats as mine all love their fish. You can cook a batch and keep in the fridge :blink:
I would start with a couple of desert spoonsful and give her portions every 3 or 4 hours increasing as you go. When that is ok add the boiled rice and fingers crossed she will be all better. :luv:
Natural yogurt with the fish will be yummy too :blink:
I have never known fish to fail to work :blink:
Jo
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You can actually buy Pro-Kolin from Llloyds Chemist they now sell vet medicines, or Pets at Home vet have it. Definitely cheaper online though.
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HI Sharon
How are Willow and Freddie today? Did he go? xxxx
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Took Blod to vets first thing this morning, she was fine all day yesterday, no more sick, but had a number two last night which looked horrendous and undigested.
He has given us a sachet of Lectade to keep her hydrated to give to her little and often - she seems to love it which is good news!
She is to go back tomorrow morning for a check up. He didnt want to give her an injection in case it masks a problem which would go unidentified - we'll see how she is for the rest of today. She doesn't seem sore in her belly or listless.
Little tinker has us so worried. She was an angel at the vets, so well behaved bless her :luv:
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Duggie's got it too now, whatever it is, I suspect it's a bug going round. He had a runny poo on our walk yesterday and was sick in the car on the way home, then I awoke to him being sick in his crate around 5am, then more runs in the garden, and unfortunately some on the carpet while I'd nipped upstairs. :020:
I hope Blodwen's clears up soon, and she is back to normal. :luv:
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Duggie's got it too now, whatever it is, I suspect it's a bug going round. He had a runny poo on our walk yesterday and was sick in the car on the way home, then I awoke to him being sick in his crate around 5am, then more runs in the garden, and unfortunately some on the carpet while I'd nipped upstairs. :020:
I hope Blodwen's clears up soon, and she is back to normal. :luv:
Hope Blodwen is back to full health soon, I have made some notes from this post - i.e. fish and the yoghurt as Larnie also has this today. She was very sick and had runny poos last night (thankfully all in the garden, bless her), but is very listless and sleeping now). No interest in eating but has taken some water like Blodwen did.
It must be something going around at the moment.
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Oh poor puppies. I hope they are both feeling better quickly, it's so worrying and you have to keep a close eye on them all the time. Blod's number two last night just appeared on the sofa next to my hubby with no warning! ph34r (Ikea removable covers - say dry clean only but I just bunged them in the washing machine immediately!)
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Oh poor puppies. I hope they are both feeling better quickly, it's so worrying and you have to keep a close eye on them all the time. Blod's number two last night just appeared on the sofa next to my hubby with no warning! ph34r (Ikea removable covers - say dry clean only but I just bunged them in the washing machine immediately!)
Are you sure your husband didn't do it!! ph34r :005:. Sorry about my warped sense of humour, it's lack of sleep as I have been up with her in the night.
Thanks for the warning tho, I will put some throws on the sofa and chair just in case.
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You have to laugh, otherwise you cry!
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Blod's number two last night just appeared on the sofa next to my hubby with no warning! ph34r (Ikea removable covers - say dry clean only but I just bunged them in the washing machine immediately!)
Probably innapropriate, but the thought of the poo just appearing with no warning when your poor unsuspecting hubby was just innocently sitting there minding his own business made me laugh! :005:
We used to have those IKEA sofas, and I machine washed the cream covers regulary, be warned though - they shrink just that tiny little bit each time until suddenly the zips burst when you try to do them up! :o :o
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You have to laugh, otherwise you cry!
So true, you're a woman after my own heart :005:
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Blod's number two last night just appeared on the sofa next to my hubby with no warning! ph34r (Ikea removable covers - say dry clean only but I just bunged them in the washing machine immediately!)
Probably innapropriate, but the thought of the poo just appearing with no warning when your poor unsuspecting hubby was just innocently sitting there minding his own business made me laugh! :005:
We used to have those IKEA sofas, and I machine washed the cream covers regulary, be warned though - they shrink just that tiny little bit each time until suddenly the zips burst when you try to do them up! :o :o
That's what happens with my trousers then (well thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it now - thanks Fiona ph34r :005:)
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Ha ha ha ha!
Well, after a vomit-free day (so far), plenty of hydration, fish, yoghurt and scrambled egg, Blod has just done her first SOLID POO in approx. 48 hours! HALLELUJAH! Granted, it was small, but it was solid.
I should add this to the other thread about how your life has changed since puppydom. I never thought I would get so excited and emotional about seeing a puppy tooty down for a poop! :lol2:
How are the other little ones doing?
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Yay for Blod! :D
Duggie is still a bit runny, but no more vomiting so far. He's been bright, playful, and drinking, and he wolfed some scrambled egg down, but I've still had that knot of worry all day. :-\
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Yay for Blod! :D
Duggie is still a bit runny, but no more vomiting so far. He's been bright, playful, and drinking, and he wolfed some scrambled egg down, but I've still had that knot of worry all day. :-\
Exactly the same here, except she wouldn't eat her scrambled egg , but has had a little plain biscuit mix. She is drinking tho, so hopefully back to normal tomorrow. She did help me pull up the sweet peas and do a bit of weeding, bless her!
I shall await with excitement her next solid pooh :005:
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I shall await with excitement her next solid pooh :005:
I'm awaiting Duggie's - I only hope it doesn't appear suddenly next to me on the sofa! :lol2:
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Ha ha ha ha ha!
Washable covers at the ready! Blink and you might miss it!
Keep a closer eye on those husbands and OH's mind!
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Washable covers at the ready! Blink and you might miss it!
Blink and I might sit on it! :o
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:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: That's amused me all day, that suddenly appearing pooh - I'm a bit disappointed that Larnie didn't do an amazing trick like that (no I'm not on second thoughts!) ph34r
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The ones Duggie normally does might amuse you - they look like those joke ones you used to get years ago in silly joke shops, and they didn't look real! :005:
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The ones Duggie normally does might amuse you - they look like those joke ones you used to get years ago in silly joke shops, and they didn't look real! :005:
They probably would :005:. Oh no, hope I don't get a pooh-obsessed reputation now!!
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Just a quick Blod update - no more poo yet since yesterday - solid or otherwise :lol:
She was a little sick overnight - small amount of ricey bits but mostly seemed to be water because her bed was very wet.
Took her to Vet this morning, she has more Lectade and also had an injection this time (I didnt ask the name of the injection). Vet seemed to think it was gastrointeritis (sp?) and not a lodged foreign object.
Bland food for the next three days. She did mention no more egg because there is a lot of fat in the yolk.
Behaviour wise, she is driving me mad, her biting, barking and zooming around have taken us back to Week 13 Blodwen! :005:
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Poor Blodwen, she seems to not have been able to shake it off herself - hope she perks up soon :luv:. Larnie is back to normal with a vengeance, and at the moment is wedged inside a rather large empty rice krispies box. :005:
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Glad Blod's feeling a bit livelier... bless!
Poo has become high on our list of conversations in our house too :lol2: Spud is 13 weeks and alternates between firm and very runny.. the little >:D shuffles around, about 3 feet whilst he's doing it too.. which is a nightmare to clear up especially when he's boxed himself in :lol:!
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Just spent half an hour with Blodwen outside with on and off dia-doo-dah, bless her, she rushed outside all of a sudden, Daddy put his camping head torch on, and we've just spent 30 mins following Blod with a trail of kitchen roll, plastic bags and baby wipes to wipe her bum.
I really hope this is just the injection working or something. It started off as firm, then got runny, finally it was just watery (sorry for the detail) (Apart from Sassie - bet you're loving all this poop talk ;) !
Any ideas on some puppy-friendly patio wash cleaner?
No sick today though, which is a relief.
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Just spent half an hour with Blodwen outside with on and off dia-doo-dah, bless her, she rushed outside all of a sudden, Daddy put his camping head torch on, and we've just spent 30 mins following Blod with a trail of kitchen roll, plastic bags and baby wipes to wipe her bum.
I really hope this is just the injection working or something. It started off as firm, then got runny, finally it was just watery (sorry for the detail) (Apart from Sassie - bet you're loving all this poop talk ;) !
Any ideas on some puppy-friendly patio wash cleaner?
No sick today though, which is a relief.
Bless her, she's really had a rough ride with this tummy bug (not great fun for you and OH either). I shut Larnie in the house and swill it with a bucket of hot water with one capful of the milton milguard baby steriliser, it seems to do the trick, but you can get litres of animal friendly patio cleaner from our local pet-barn, next time I pop in there I'll try to get the name of it.
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Poor Blodwen, I hope she soon gets back to normal, Duggie did a huge normal poo last night - just for Sassie! :005:
I usually just throw a bucket of hot water, with a bit of Zoflora in it, over the patio and scrub it dry with a deck brush. :D
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Poor Blodwen, I hope she soon gets back to normal, Duggie did a huge normal poo last night - just for Sassie! :005:
I usually just throw a bucket of hot water, with a bit of Zoflora in it, over the patio and scrub it dry with a deck brush. :D
Oh Duggie, I'm so honoured- thank you Mr Gorgeous!! :luv: :005:
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Poor Blod she is having a rough time of it isn't she (and your patio too ph34r) I hope it all clears up today ;)
Belle sends her baby sis a big cocker hug and kiss :luv:
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How is Blodwen today?
Lynne :huh:
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Thanks Belle - we passed on the hug and kiss :luv: and she loved it!
She has been doing a lot better after her 30 mins poo poo marathon on Tuesday night. Yesterday we had no sick, and one small hard poop evening time, and same for today. So she isn't back completely to normal - and she is still just on chicken, rice and yoghurt - but it is a huge improvement so she is definately over the worst.
We are going to start introducing her kibble to her chicken, rice and yoghurt tomorrow slowly.
I wish we knew what caused it - just to avoid it happening again.
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Hooray! Probably a bug in which case, she will have some immunity from this hopefully. It is a worry when they are poorly and even worse when they are little. Glad she's on the mend she looks so cute in the photo!
Lynne
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Glad she is improving ;) :luv: Jo and Belle
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Duggie's back on the boiled fish today... ::)
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Aww Duggie, its a horible bug isn't it seems to settle then come back for an encore >:( Big hugs to Duggie and hope he is 1005 soon :luv: Jo and Belle
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Poor lil Duggie - I really hope he is OK. It almost took a week for Blod to recover look
I hope Duggie's tum settles down properly quickly. It is a worry when things are not quite right. I think what helped through the week was seeing that, in herself, she was still quite bright and padding around, lively as anything. Do keep an eye on him Fiona.
Blod does look quite skinny now bless her.
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Oh poor puppies. Don't know how I missed this thread. Have you tried Tree barks powder. The lady at Therepaws swears by it. Made by Dorwest. Similar to slippery elm for humans. She has Goldies and breeds /shows/works them. She suggested I use it as Rufus had the runs quite a lot this summer. It says it can be used for any age post weaning.
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Larnie not too bad today, which is good since there are little piles of earth all over the garden where I've had to cover the doo-dah and if it had gone on much longer, I think we could have run out of garden!!
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Oh poor puppies. Don't know how I missed this thread. Have you tried Tree barks powder. The lady at Therepaws swears by it. Made by Dorwest. Similar to slippery elm for humans. She has Goldies and breeds /shows/works them. She suggested I use it as Rufus had the runs quite a lot this summer. It says it can be used for any age post weaning.
I've had a look at their website and was going to order some, but does anyone know if it is available to buy in the shops? I'd like to get it asap if I can.
Duggie is bright and lovelyl, but the runs are still ongoing, and he was sick in his crate again this morning. :-\