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Title: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Gayle and Bailey on March 10, 2010, 01:20:36 PM
Hi guys

I have now moved my boys to a half raw and half kibble diet, and they are doing well on it.

After reading many threads I have noted that sugar beet used in dog food as a filler can be a cause of skin irritations. 

I am looking to change their kibble and am thinking of healthy paws after all the glowing reviews of it on here.

Does anyone know of any other complete foods that do not contain sugar beet?

Thanks Gayle, Bailey and Jura xxx
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Sheryl on March 10, 2010, 01:29:24 PM
I think Robbies and Luaths from Land of Holistic pets are beet free.
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: louis mum on March 10, 2010, 01:46:29 PM
Thanks for that link Sheryl  ;) I am looking for exactly the same but require it to be fish based  :-\ I am not having any luck, if anyone has any pointers it would be great.
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Gayle and Bailey on March 10, 2010, 01:57:21 PM
Hi Louis mum
Origen do a fish based complete with no beet
Gayle
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Gayle and Bailey on March 10, 2010, 01:58:23 PM
Thanks Sheryl - will have a look at their site
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Max X 2 on March 10, 2010, 01:59:27 PM
Don't know if this would be any good?

Common allergens such as corn, wheat, & beet pulp have been ommitted instead using oatmeal, pearled barley, brown rice, and potatoes. All the recipes are formulated with 100% natural ingredients and contain absolutely no artificial flavors or colors

http://www.postalpetsproducts.co.uk/index1.html
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: BarbaraW on March 10, 2010, 02:00:52 PM
I have had Dennis on Heathly paws for over six month now and have noticed a big difference with his skin and his weight.  They are about to launch some new products soon according to their website - just got an order this week for him.  
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Jessie_Pup on March 10, 2010, 02:12:49 PM


 I feed mine on Barking Heads no beet pulp they alsodo a salmon and potato.   Jessie has come on really well since I started to feed it coat good and weight much impoved.
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Bluebell on March 10, 2010, 03:39:56 PM
Burns does not contain Beet pulp ;)
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Helen on March 10, 2010, 03:56:09 PM
Burns does not contain Beet pulp ;)

I know some varieties have beet pulp in them - what variety are you referring to?  :D

for a start Burns Active, high energy lamb and Extra contain beet pulp....
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: mark1 on March 10, 2010, 04:07:34 PM
We changed Molly onto Healthy Paws recently as well. There has been a real improvement in general look of her, skin and coat looks really good and she just seems generally very content. No change in energy levels though which I had hoped might have gone down a bit  :005:
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Helen on March 10, 2010, 04:09:11 PM
We changed Molly onto Healthy Paws recently as well. There has been a real improvement in general look of her, skin and coat looks really good and she just seems generally very content. No change in energy levels though which I had hoped might have gone down a bit  :005:

there's quite a high percentage of lean protein (26% I think in HP) so if anything she'll be as active or more active  :D
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: mark1 on March 10, 2010, 04:11:42 PM
We changed Molly onto Healthy Paws recently as well. There has been a real improvement in general look of her, skin and coat looks really good and she just seems generally very content. No change in energy levels though which I had hoped might have gone down a bit  :005:

there's quite a high percentage of lean protein (26% I think in HP) so if anything she'll be as active or more active  :D
Iwas just really hoping that the Beta pet she had been on was making her hyper and the way she was had nothing to do with her natural energy levels..oh well she may calm down a bit in a few years  :005:
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: louis mum on March 10, 2010, 05:18:20 PM
Thanks guys for the pointers, off to look now  :D Oooh just noticed they are at Crufts so I will go and chat to one of their team  ;)
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Gayle and Bailey on March 10, 2010, 05:26:43 PM
I have had Dennis on Heathly paws for over six month now and have noticed a big difference with his skin and his weight.  They are about to launch some new products soon according to their website - just got an order this week for him.  

Thanks Barbara - when you mention weight do you mean Dennis lost weight?  I have a problem keeping weight on mine  :-\
My GR skin could be doing with improving as he licks and bites the inside of his thighs, sometimes ending up in sores.  I still have a bag of the kibble they're on now and have a friend looking out for samples of HP at Crufts for me.

Thanks for everyones help on this
Gayle
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: jann on March 10, 2010, 09:56:24 PM
Burns does not contain Beet pulp ;)

I know some varieties have beet pulp in them - what variety are you referring to?  :D

for a start Burns Active, high energy lamb and Extra contain beet pulp....

I do know that Burns High Oats does not contain sugar beet  :blink:
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: BarbaraW on March 10, 2010, 10:08:31 PM
Dennis did loose weight with it - he was a kg overweight when I started feeding it and he only has a quarter kg to go now to get to breed standard.  It was easier to portion control the Healthy paws as I could give him less than the recommended amount on the packet yet he is still satisfied he is getting enough food - it didn't look like I was starving him looking into the amount in the bowl.  Before Healthy paws I tried the Eubekanuba light and when I reduced the portion his bowl appeared empty. 

When he gets to his ideal weight I will feed him the amount recommended on the packet for his weight. 

Like your GR, Dennis also had hot spots which he liked and chewed until they were red and sore, he doesn't do this now.
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Toni-UK on March 11, 2010, 12:05:12 PM
I was just looking at my bag of Burns food,if it does contain beet pulp does it state "beet pulp" as the actual ingredient or is listed under something else,hope that made sense........

The few Burns flavours i have looked at do not list "beet pulp"  :dunno:
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: lindseyp on March 11, 2010, 12:59:45 PM
I was just looking at my bag of Burns food,if it does contain beet pulp does it state "beet pulp" as the actual ingredient or is listed under something else,hope that made sense........

The few Burns flavours i have looked at do not list "beet pulp"  :dunno:

Mine have been on the Burns fish & brown rice & doesn't 'appear' to have beet pulp in it  :dunno:
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Toni-UK on March 11, 2010, 01:14:17 PM
I was just looking at my bag of Burns food,if it does contain beet pulp does it state "beet pulp" as the actual ingredient or is listed under something else,hope that made sense........

The few Burns flavours i have looked at do not list "beet pulp"  :dunno:

Mine have been on the Burns fish & brown rice & doesn't 'appear' to have beet pulp in it  :dunno:

Nor the chicken and brown rice,duck or fish and rice  :dunno:,therefore i think Burns is quite favourable as it seems there are more flavours without Beet pulp than with,i like to give Ruby a good variety in flavour so some of the other brands fall a bit short for me.  ;)
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Helen on March 11, 2010, 02:02:16 PM
I was just looking at my bag of Burns food,if it does contain beet pulp does it state "beet pulp" as the actual ingredient or is listed under something else,hope that made sense........

The few Burns flavours i have looked at do not list "beet pulp"  :dunno:

Mine have been on the Burns fish & brown rice & doesn't 'appear' to have beet pulp in it  :dunno:

Nor the chicken and brown rice,duck or fish and rice  :dunno:,therefore i think Burns is quite favourable as it seems there are more flavours without Beet pulp than with,i like to give Ruby a good variety in flavour so some of the other brands fall a bit short for me.  ;)

that's why I said 'some' flavours  :lol2:

Mr Burns has openly said he doesn't believe beet pulp is responsible for any problems (but doesn't admit it's just a cheap filler) - his brother (Robbie's) feels completely the opposite.  I'm not sure why he feels that putting beet pulp in some of his varieties improves them, seems pointless to me.

If Burns suits your dog that's brilliant - means you can feed them more treats as it takes a lot of Burns to make 'em fat  :lol2:
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Toni-UK on March 11, 2010, 02:28:34 PM

If Burns suits your dog that's brilliant - means you can feed them more treats as it takes a lot of Burns to make 'em fat  :lol2:

Yup,that's why i just spent £35 on treats at zooplus  :lol2: ,obviously in moderation though  :shades: 
Title: Re: Looking for complete with no sugar beet?
Post by: Helen on March 11, 2010, 02:33:32 PM

If Burns suits your dog that's brilliant - means you can feed them more treats as it takes a lot of Burns to make 'em fat  :lol2:

Yup,that's why i just spent £35 on treats at zooplus  :lol2: ,obviously in moderation though  :shades: 

I won't let the deprived one read this :rofl1: