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Title: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: x Lou x on April 08, 2010, 09:32:15 PM
I thought that you couldn't give dogs cheese, eggs or milk. But I see most of you use cheese as a treat.
Chester loves pears but he does easily get a funny tummy, I wondered if any one had any ideas for treats for a Cocker Spaniel with a sensitive tum?  He loves a knuckle bone but that seems to upset his tum too, as do raw hide sticks. The best treat he has at the moment is the Wainwright puppy bones/biscuits. Any Ideas?

Is there anything I shouldn't give him?

Thanks in advance  :D
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: SkyeSue on April 08, 2010, 09:42:40 PM
Chloe gets teensy bits of cheese as training treats and a raw egg with her kibble once or twice a week. She doesn't get rawhide chews as she gets the runs with them. Tbh, I think you have to just check out different onces and see how your dog reacts, but in general, I would stear clear of anything with rubbish in them. At the moment, I'm trying Chloe on Nature's menu treats, which seem to be fine for her, and homemade stuff always suits her......livercake and tunabread go down a treat with no upset tummy.
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: Sarah1985 on April 08, 2010, 09:44:37 PM
dried carrots.

 Take fresh carrots, Slice then oven cook them on your ovens  lowest setting till the carrots have gone dry and crunchy. Dog either love of hate them, In credibly healthy if your dog does like them
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: x Lou x on April 08, 2010, 09:45:58 PM
Chloe gets teensy bits of cheese as training treats and a raw egg with her kibble once or twice a week. She doesn't get rawhide chews as she gets the runs with them. Tbh, I think you have to just check out different onces and see how your dog reacts, but in general, I would stear clear of anything with rubbish in them. At the moment, I'm trying Chloe on Nature's menu treats, which seem to be fine for her, and homemade stuff always suits her......livercake and tunabread go down a treat with no upset tummy.
Do you know where I could get the recipes for these from?  They sound a good idea.
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: x Lou x on April 08, 2010, 09:48:42 PM
dried carrots.

 Take fresh carrots, Slice then oven cook them on your ovens  lowest setting till the carrots have gone dry and crunchy. Dog either love of hate them, In credibly healthy if your dog does like them

He likes carrots, so i'll try it. :D
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: SkyeSue on April 08, 2010, 09:51:43 PM
http://www.itsaspringthing.co.uk/willows%20kitchen.htm

 :D
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: x Lou x on April 08, 2010, 09:53:47 PM
Thank you  :D
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: Nicola on April 08, 2010, 09:55:44 PM
Some dogs don't digest milk well, they don't need it in their diet but if you are going to give it they often tolerate goats milk better. Eggs are fine, mine get them raw or scrambled as a treat and cheese is a high-value treat which they love but they don't get loads of it. There are lots of biscuits and treats which are commercially available - gravy bones, JWB Crackerjacks, Nature's Menu and Fish4Dogs treats are some popular choices - or you can make your own such as livercake or tuna bread. Most fruit is fine for dogs but moderate quantities is best if he's prone to an upset stomach and a lot of dogs also like raw carrots as a treat.

Big no-nos for dogs are chocolate, grapes, raisins, sultanas, onion, macadamia nuts, xylitol (found in chewing gum and some sweets), raw potato, cooked bones, fruit stones and pips which contain cyanide (but large quantities would have to be crunched up) and can also be a choking hazard and corn cobs as dogs can't digest these and they can cause blockages.
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: x Lou x on April 08, 2010, 10:05:31 PM
Thank You,  that was really helpful.  Why not cooked bones my vet said not raw bones because of possible tape worms or salmonella?
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: SkyeSue on April 08, 2010, 10:10:37 PM
Thank You,  that was really helpful.  Why not cooked bones my vet said not raw bones because of possible tape worms or salmoela?

Cooked bones splinter more easily and are more likely to cause choking or tummy problems. My vet also said that feeding raw bones carries the danger of salmonela, but I chose to ignore him  ph34r :005: Vet's don't know everything about feeding and diet and I have found my fellow COLers to be far more knowledgable in these matters, so I go with them  :005:
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: x Lou x on April 08, 2010, 10:18:05 PM
Thanks I'll look in to it.  :D
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: weenieangel on April 08, 2010, 10:32:31 PM
dried carrots.

 Take fresh carrots, Slice then oven cook them on your ovens  lowest setting till the carrots have gone dry and crunchy. Dog either love of hate them, In credibly healthy if your dog does like them


Oh dear !!!!!!!!!! i have made an error here then..............we gave Charley half a sliced fresh carrot a couple of days ago ( not cooked or made crunchy just outa the fridge ) We haven't seen any signs of probs but should you always half cook carrots ? i thought that fully cooked ones were not so good hence giving him half a raw one ??
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: JennyBee on April 08, 2010, 10:37:14 PM
dried carrots.

 Take fresh carrots, Slice then oven cook them on your ovens  lowest setting till the carrots have gone dry and crunchy. Dog either love of hate them, In credibly healthy if your dog does like them


Oh dear !!!!!!!!!! i have made an error here then..............we gave Charley half a sliced fresh carrot a couple of days ago ( not cooked or made crunchy just outa the fridge ) We haven't seen any signs of probs but should you always half cook carrots ? i thought that fully cooked ones were not so good hence giving him half a raw one ??

Perfectly safe :D. Brodie loves raw carrots and gets half a small one almost every day, great for her teeth :blink:
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: SkyeSue on April 08, 2010, 10:37:58 PM
dried carrots.

 Take fresh carrots, Slice then oven cook them on your ovens  lowest setting till the carrots have gone dry and crunchy. Dog either love of hate them, In credibly healthy if your dog does like them


Oh dear !!!!!!!!!! i have made an error here then..............we gave Charley half a sliced fresh carrot a couple of days ago ( not cooked or made crunchy just outa the fridge ) We haven't seen any signs of probs but should you always half cook carrots ? i thought that fully cooked ones were not so good hence giving him half a raw one ??

Don't worry, raw carrots are fine! I used to cut carrots into sticks and freeze them for Chloe and give them to her when was teething. I still give her a raw carrot now and then  :D
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: Rats and Dogs on April 08, 2010, 10:54:02 PM
dried carrots.

 Take fresh carrots, Slice then oven cook them on your ovens  lowest setting till the carrots have gone dry and crunchy. Dog either love of hate them, In credibly healthy if your dog does like them


Oh dear !!!!!!!!!! i have made an error here then..............we gave Charley half a sliced fresh carrot a couple of days ago ( not cooked or made crunchy just outa the fridge ) We haven't seen any signs of probs but should you always half cook carrots ? i thought that fully cooked ones were not so good hence giving him half a raw one ??
I think Sarah was just suggesting another way to feed carrots as a change from raw. ;) Mine eat raw carrots regularly with no problems, although Dougie was always sick with them when he was a small pup, but is fine now. :D
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: Karma on April 08, 2010, 11:21:26 PM

Ooo... might try the baked carrots option.... always looking for small training treats to reduce the amount of cheese and sausage we get through!!!  :D

Lou - a dog's digestive system is designed to deal with the bacteria present in raw food - in fact I'm sure I read somewhere that most dogs carry salmonella in their gut without it causing a problem.  When a raw fed dog has a tummy upset and is tested for salmonella, it would come back positive and the vets blame salmonella for the tummy upset, when the same test would likely come back positive when the dog is perfectly healthy.   ;) Unless the dog has a compromised immune system, we are more at risk from salmonella when feeding dogs raw bones than the dog is.  :D  (Though obviously with good hygiene, there shouldn't be a problem!) The tapeworm issue is more accurate - pork used to carry a tapeworm-type parasite (trichinosis), but this is no longer present in pork for human consumption in the UK, and hasn't been for years.  There have been some isolated cases in the USA, from pork from very rural areas.  If you are still worried about this, freezing the meat for a couple of weeks before (defrosting and) feeding it will kill off any worms etc.
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: Emma xx on April 09, 2010, 12:42:06 AM
Phew! I got scared then as Alfie and Meg have the odd raw carrot!! I snap them in half and freeze them and they are great for soothing his poor gums :luv: and havent caused him any probs so far :D xxx
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: Sarah1985 on April 09, 2010, 06:43:29 AM
dried carrots.

 Take fresh carrots, Slice then oven cook them on your ovens  lowest setting till the carrots have gone dry and crunchy. Dog either love of hate them, In credibly healthy if your dog does like them


Oh dear !!!!!!!!!! i have made an error here then..............we gave Charley half a sliced fresh carrot a couple of days ago ( not cooked or made crunchy just outa the fridge ) We haven't seen any signs of probs but should you always half cook carrots ? i thought that fully cooked ones were not so good hence giving him half a raw one ??
I think Sarah was just suggesting another way to feed carrots as a change from raw. ;) Mine eat raw carrots regularly with no problems, although Dougie was always sick with them when he was a small pup, but is fine now. :D

Yep, they're just a slightly better treat for training if theyre cooked. They dont go off if you leave them in your pocket after a training session  :005: and they tend to be easier for the dog to eat so if your doing clicker training and treating lots you dont have to wait while your dog finishes chewing.

 My 2 have them raw as well as a chew stick.
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: mlynnf50 on April 09, 2010, 09:45:39 AM
Which bones are the best to first try them on, i would prefer to give a larger bone than chicken wings,.....
I know iam a softy and am frightened he will choke.
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: Karma on April 09, 2010, 09:56:55 AM

Marrow Bones are great as a recreational bone - they won't eat the majority of it and they can be a bit tough on the teeth, so I wouldn't give more than 1 a month or so...

For a bone they can eat entirely, I'd go with lamb ribs... they are nice and soft, and generally have a good amount of meat.  If they are very fatty, you can remove some of this, as this can upset some tums. 
Pork ribs are also fine to give, but are a bit more hard work, and Honey still "struggles" with these (mainly she just can't be bothered to put in the effort to eat them!!! It's a great way to keep her weight in check!!!!  :005: ).
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: weenieangel on April 09, 2010, 11:51:41 AM
dried carrots.

 Take fresh carrots, Slice then oven cook them on your ovens  lowest setting till the carrots have gone dry and crunchy. Dog either love of hate them, In credibly healthy if your dog does like them


Oh dear !!!!!!!!!! i have made an error here then..............we gave Charley half a sliced fresh carrot a couple of days ago ( not cooked or made crunchy just outa the fridge ) We haven't seen any signs of probs but should you always half cook carrots ? i thought that fully cooked ones were not so good hence giving him half a raw one ??
I think Sarah was just suggesting another way to feed carrots as a change from raw. ;) Mine eat raw carrots regularly with no problems, although Dougie was always sick with them when he was a small pup, but is fine now. :D

Great :) thanks
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: Mel on April 11, 2010, 10:22:13 AM
Just to add with the carrots, they pass straight through without much digestion, so if you are looking for goodness from the carrot, then you need, as with all vegetables, to finely shred them. So raw carrots or even baked are great as treats but also try adding some shredded with you cockers food sometimes. Dogs have an issue breaking down the fiberous construction of vegetables. Gosh Tali goes wild for frozen carrot for his teeth. He goes through two a day! ph34r :005:
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: x Lou x on April 11, 2010, 04:31:52 PM
Ok we've given up raw hide and cooked bones (not been brave enough to try a raw one yet) but have tried cheese and ham and so far so good! We have even had two solid poos  :lol: The carrot treats are in the oven as I type, so i'll let you know how they go down.  ;)

Thank you everyone with all your help, this really is a good site, :luv: it has so much information on but I have to admit I read more than I post  ph34r

Thanks again

Lou
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: Mel on April 11, 2010, 05:11:29 PM
Cooked bones splinter and are dangerous. Do not feed them to your dog.
Title: Re: What shouldn't you feed a Cocker Spaniel?
Post by: JeffandAnnie on April 19, 2010, 07:27:16 PM
Kebabs, especially the skewer  >:(