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Title: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on October 31, 2010, 01:21:40 PM
I had always given rawhide chews to previous dogs, because that's what my parents had done, and we kind of just took it as "normal", but when we got Alfie (as a pup), and asked our vet about rawhide chews, she pulled a face and said definitely not to give them to pups under a year old and preferably not at all. (And also said not to give pigs ears as they can cause pancreatitis).

The main reason was the risk of throat or even intestinal blockages (especially in pups), which have been known to cause death. I was stunned because I had never thought of this before. But then I read the same thing here from a few posters.

I also read elsewhere that another problem with rawhide chews, especially those from China, is that often the source of the rawhide is not stated, and has been found in some cases to be hide from animals other than cows (eg dogs and cats).

So Alfie doesn't have rawhide chews at all.

In a recent thread in another folder, someone mentioned giving a chew to their 6 month old pup and also their dog. I stated my concern over the pup (and even possibly the dog) having a chew, if the chew was rawhide, but then had this questioned by two posters and was told by one of them:

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so as long as they a) are supervised while having rawhide and b) don't have any ill effects and have raw hide chews in moderation I don't see the problem at all

So, rather than take that thread off-topic, I thought I'd start a thread here to ask everyone's opinion on rawhide chews, whether you give them to your dogs or whether you don't, and why. Also it might be helpful to know if there are some rawhide chews that you think are safer than others, and also from what age you think it's ok to give them.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Pip895 on October 31, 2010, 02:07:39 PM
I feed Saffi 3 or 4/week of the cigar type minty chews from PAH  and always have from about 6months - They take her about 1/2 hour to eat - so called dental chews are gone in seconds.  She doesn't seem to like the bigger pressed type of rawhide chew much (they get buried) + these are the ones where you have to be concerned about the ingredients I think. 

I have always assumed that "rawhide" has to come from cloven hoofed animals - cows/Buffalo etc.  so I go for ones that are 100% rawhide.

Saffis method of consumption has never given me cause for concern - she doesn't tear big lumps off and swallow them or anything.  She also won't touch them (or stuffed kongs) if I'm not around, so the unsupervised bit isn't a problem.

 

Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Jan/Billy on October 31, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
I also read elsewhere that another problem with rawhide chews, especially those from China, is that often the source of the rawhide is not stated, and has been found in some cases to be hide from animals other than cows (eg dogs and cats).


I never do for the reason you have stated above.

I challenge you to find a rawhide in pets at home that does not come from China  ::)

Billy has raw bones for a treat ( when I'm at home, I never leave him alone with one) and sometimes frozen  kongs whilst I'm out.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: spanielcrazy on October 31, 2010, 02:26:22 PM
I don't really give them for several reasons: around here they cause fights, and I had a dog who twice I had to do a heimlich-type thing as he had a piece stuck in his throat. It was really awful, he was not breathing, his eyes were rolling back in his head; I was afraid if I didn't get it out in time I would lose him  :'( If you try to reach down their throats to get the piece, it is so slimy and slippery you cant get hold of it  :-\

When I was buying them I would only buy the ones that said natural unbleached, and only if they were made in US,  Argentina or Europe (never from China or Asia!). If they are really white, as opposed to a cream tea colour, the rawhide has been soaked in chlorine bleach, same type (but stronger!) than household laundry bleach!

That said, I don't think they are all bad, just use caution with them. if I had a young puppy (and no adults to steal toys and treats!) I would give rawhide, but only under supervision. Take them up if you aren't there. Get one that is slightly larger than the puppy or dogs size would dictate. When it gets down to a nub, toss it so there is no temptation to try to swallow it  ;)
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Bluebell on October 31, 2010, 02:35:15 PM
I give all my dogs the small twist type rawhide chews. They are only given under supervision due to the potential choking hazard. There have never been any I'll effects from them, they help keep my dogs teeth clean and in this house they are low value so they never cause any squabbles!
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on October 31, 2010, 02:37:22 PM
Weve never given Nell rawhide chews, we always give her raw bones.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Nicola on October 31, 2010, 02:49:13 PM
I more often give the ostrich/venison etc. chews from Zooplus but I also give Rodaidh and Caoimhe rawhide chews occasionally, they both enjoy them and they've never had a problem with them. Tilly isn't allowed them because of her illness but she wasn't hugely keen on them anyway. I sometimes buy the flat HiLife ones that come in a tub which usually get chomped straight away and sometimes the twisted knot bone type ones which last for ages. I don't leave them lying around if I'm not there and I bin them once they've been chewed down to a small piece. As was also said on that other thread a dog could choke on anything and they don't pull big lumps off them and try to swallow them so I'm not particularly concerned about that. I'd have more concern about Caoimhe choking on her normal food which she inhales ::) I don't give them pigs' ears because they give Rodaidh the runs but they have had venison ears from Burns which went down pretty well.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Jan/Billy on October 31, 2010, 02:54:15 PM
I'd have more concern about Caoimhe choking on her normal food which she inhales ::)


Sounds like Billy  ::) He won't chew his food he just stuffs it in his mouth and swallows it as though the world is about to come to an end  ::)
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Nicola on October 31, 2010, 02:59:26 PM
I'd have more concern about Caoimhe choking on her normal food which she inhales ::)

Sounds like Billy  ::) He won't chew his food he just stuffs it in his mouth and swallows it as though the world is about to come to an end  ::)

Yep Caoimhe is the same, she grabs huge mouthfuls and just throws them back down her throat, it's a bit like watching a bird eating a fish by throwing it back whole :005:
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Jessie_Pup on October 31, 2010, 03:05:13 PM


I stopped feeding rawhide chews awhile ago, when Dylan coughed up a large piece of rawhide.  They now have Burns Venison ears which they love an occasional Saturday night treat but mostly Fish4Dogs sea jerky.   Raw chicken wings once or twice a week and raw carrott.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on October 31, 2010, 03:08:21 PM
I've also now read online that rawhide chews from overseas can also contain toxins that are used in the manufacturing process (eg bleach, arsenic-based preservatives).  :016:
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on October 31, 2010, 03:08:58 PM
I more often give the ostrich/venison etc. chews from Zooplus

Nicola, I like the sound of those - can they be given to pups, do you know?
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Nicola on October 31, 2010, 03:48:34 PM
I more often give the ostrich/venison etc. chews from Zooplus

Nicola, I like the sound of those - can they be given to pups, do you know?

Yes, well, I always have anyway. They're completely natural and have never given any of mine an upset stomach, both Ro and Caoimhe have had them a couple of times a week since they were pups, I just watch them while they're chewing etc. They like the ostrich tripe, meat and tendons, the venison trachea and sinews, the lamb tripe and the beef jerky and pizzles. They last a bit longer than the Fish4Dogs twists and strips which they also get (and really love) but which are gone in seconds.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Ninasmum on October 31, 2010, 03:51:05 PM
These are similar Manda & all of my 4 absolutely love them  http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/dog_treats_chews/beef/sticks/13412
You need to order them quite quickly because they are forever going out of stock.  I have just ordered some for mine after waiting nearly 2 weeks for them to come back in stock  ::)  They are fine for puppies too.  :D

Mine do also have the rawhide chewies, but only when i can't get hold of the above chewies. Always under supervision though.  ;)
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: supergirl on October 31, 2010, 03:59:02 PM
I gave rawhide chews to the dogs when they were pups - the flat strips, especially when they were teething.  Usually only once a week as sometimes they would upset Roly's stomach.  Even now there are odd ones that seem to upset his digestion, but for the most part they are all fine with them.
I more often give the ostrich/venison etc. chews from Zooplus
Yes, well, I always have anyway. They're completely natural and have never given any of mine an upset stomach, both Ro and Caoimhe have had them a couple of times a week since they were pups, I just watch them while they're chewing etc. They like the ostrich tripe, meat and tendons, the venison trachea and sinews, the lamb tripe and the beef jerky and pizzles. They last a bit longer than the Fish4Dogs twists and strips which they also get (and really love) but which are gone in seconds.
Will give these a try, but must admit the last batch of treats that I got from Zooplus went thru him like a dose of salts
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on October 31, 2010, 04:06:48 PM
These are similar Manda & all of my 4 absolutely love them  http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/dog_treats_chews/beef/sticks/13412
You need to order them quite quickly because they are forever going out of stock.  I have just ordered some for mine after waiting nearly 2 weeks for them to come back in stock  ::)  They are fine for puppies too.  :D
I wonder if they are anything like CSJ's "Ribbies"?

http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/pc/viewcategories.asp?idCategory=14&pageStyle=P (http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/pc/viewcategories.asp?idCategory=14&pageStyle=P)

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Mine do also have the rawhide chewies, but only when i can't get hold of the above chewies. Always under supervision though.  ;)
Thing is, supervision can't prevent the intestinal blockage risk though. Unless you stop them eating any of it whatsoever.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: penfold on October 31, 2010, 04:12:25 PM
I tend to give my lot raw carrots/frozen kongs....not for any other reason (until now!) except rawhide chews gave alfie springer chronic deadly wind  ph34r

Like the sound of the chews from zooplus.  Have tried them recently with the fish jerky but they all just looked at me like I was mad  :lol:
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Helen on October 31, 2010, 05:20:28 PM
These are similar Manda & all of my 4 absolutely love them  http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/dog_treats_chews/beef/sticks/13412
You need to order them quite quickly because they are forever going out of stock.  I have just ordered some for mine after waiting nearly 2 weeks for them to come back in stock  ::)  They are fine for puppies too.  :D
I wonder if they are anything like CSJ's "Ribbies"?

http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/pc/viewcategories.asp?idCategory=14&pageStyle=P (http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/pc/viewcategories.asp?idCategory=14&pageStyle=P)

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Mine do also have the rawhide chewies, but only when i can't get hold of the above chewies. Always under supervision though.  ;)
Thing is, supervision can't prevent the intestinal blockage risk though. Unless you stop them eating any of it whatsoever.

it depends on the size of the rawhide doesn't it?  the thin ones are hardly likely to cause an obstruction unless they're swallowed whole.

I spose if you have a dog that doesn't bother chewing you have a problem.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on October 31, 2010, 05:43:35 PM
it depends on the size of the rawhide doesn't it?  the thin ones are hardly likely to cause an obstruction unless they're swallowed whole.

I wouldn't know - I don't know the diameter of a pup's (or a dog's) small intestine. All I know is that that's one of the reasons my vet warned me off them - she said that pups especially can find find rawhide hard to digest, so what they eat can remain undigested in their gut and cause a blockage.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Helen on October 31, 2010, 06:54:49 PM
I think we're all capable of making decisions regarding our dogs and our dog's welfare - my irritation is when I'm told that I 'should' or 'shouldn't' do certain things when I'm intelligent enough to do my own research and make considered decisions.  I find it particularly patronising and rude.

The rawhide chews I give my dog are not bleached, they're definitely bovine hide, they're small and consumed in small chunks and he digests them well.   

FWIW I actively avoid all products from PAH - I've only ever been in one once and I won't buy from there.  My vet says Jarvis is fit and healthy and knows all about what I feed him (including any treats) and I would NEVER knowingly put him at any risk.

As for arsenic, tell that to the cigarette smokers as they're all inhaling that daily, and over zealous cleanliness with bleach in the house is dangerous to dogs too  ph34r
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on October 31, 2010, 07:27:14 PM
I think we're all capable of making decisions regarding our dogs and our dog's welfare - my irritation is when I'm told that I 'should' or 'shouldn't' do certain things when I'm intelligent enough to do my own research and make considered decisions.  I find it particularly patronising and rude.
I didn't say it to *you*. And all I was doing in that thread was expressing my opinion based on what my vet said to me, and she very definitely said that pups shouldn't have them and that it was debatable whether dogs over a year should have them either.
I've also read some horror stories on COL, so I do tend to be a bit zealous about it, especially since the same thing could easily have happened to one of my own dogs in the past.

Plenty of people just give their dogs rawhide chews that they see on the shelves of pet shops without thinking to question where they come from. I know, I used to be one of them myself. I had no idea of all of the possible dangers, or that they could include the skin of other animals if they came from China (I would have had no idea of where they came from anyway, as I used to buy them loose).
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The rawhide chews I give my dog are not bleached, they're definitely bovine hide, they're small and consumed in small chunks and he digests them well.  
What brand are they and where could I get some? I haven't found any in my local pet shops and would consider them for Alfie when he is older if I knew where to get them from.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: bracken on October 31, 2010, 07:53:30 PM
My Rosie nearly choked a rawhide 2 yrs ago it frightened the hell out of me  :'( I will never give any kind of rawhide to any of mine I'm just to scared.
She does not chew much at all just 'downs it', even carrot has to be cut up into tiny portions. My others do chew but I just can't give it.

Years ago my retrievers loved the raw hide  :blink:
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Holly2009 on October 31, 2010, 08:17:34 PM
Holly has one every night & looks forward to it, we have a nice large crusty patch all over the far cushion in the living room...where she sits every night & munches away! Really should buy a cover  >:(
Never had any issues/problems, she chews like a lady dont cha know  :shades: and she enjoys them, I buy huge bags of them for £15.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Jan/Billy on October 31, 2010, 09:13:03 PM
I think we're all capable of making decisions regarding our dogs and our dog's welfare - my irritation is when I'm told that I 'should' or 'shouldn't' do certain things when I'm intelligent enough to do my own research and make considered decisions.  I find it particularly patronising and rude.


Crikey, are you having a bad day Helen  :005:
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Holly2009 on October 31, 2010, 09:17:31 PM
I think we're all capable of making decisions regarding our dogs and our dog's welfare - my irritation is when I'm told that I 'should' or 'shouldn't' do certain things when I'm intelligent enough to do my own research and make considered decisions.  I find it particularly patronising and rude.


Crikey, are you having a bad day Helen  :005:
:lol: women aye!!!  :005:
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Ninasmum on October 31, 2010, 09:38:13 PM
These are similar Manda & all of my 4 absolutely love them  http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/dog_treats_chews/beef/sticks/13412
You need to order them quite quickly because they are forever going out of stock.  I have just ordered some for mine after waiting nearly 2 weeks for them to come back in stock  ::)  They are fine for puppies too.  :D
I wonder if they are anything like CSJ's "Ribbies"?

http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/pc/viewcategories.asp?idCategory=14&pageStyle=P (http://www.csjk9.com/productcart/pc/viewcategories.asp?idCategory=14&pageStyle=P)

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Not sure if they are the same & on the CSJ site there isn't a photograph.  :-\  The chews from Zooplus are def. a lot cheaper than these.  I also gave a friends dogs some recently & they all loved them too.  ;)
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on October 31, 2010, 10:31:42 PM
Not sure if they are the same & on the CSJ site there isn't a photograph.  :-\  The chews from Zooplus are def. a lot cheaper than these.  I also gave a friends dogs some recently & they all loved them too.  ;)

Thanks, Wendy. I think I will put an order in for some for Alfie!
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Sarah1985 on November 01, 2010, 06:14:14 AM
I give raw hide chews occasionally. Usually when they're given them by my mum or the lady who delivers my pet supplies slipping them in as a freebe. But its not  something Id spend my money on as I know they arent the greatest of treats

mostly I give them veggie denta chews. I shopped around and discovered the hegdehog shaped ones to last the longest. Stick are too conveniently shaped to eat quickly.  :005:

Ill be having a look the ostrich chews though.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on November 01, 2010, 09:07:41 AM
mostly I give them veggie denta chews. I shopped around and discovered the hegdehog shaped ones to last the longest. Stick are too conveniently shaped to eat quickly.  :005:

Is that the Antos make, Sarah? I was thinking of trying those.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Sarah1985 on November 01, 2010, 09:43:21 AM
No cerea.
http://www.veggiepets.com/shop/cerea-hedgehog-chew.html


Another long last alternative is the rice bones

http://www.veggiepets.com/shop/cerea-cross-bone.html
But Dexter tended to leave it hide it when he was half way through and as I had two dogs I dont like leaving high value treats around so I stuck with the hedgehogs that always disappear straight away. I used them alot when I only had the one dog though as they lasted so long
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on November 01, 2010, 10:19:59 AM
Thanks for that, Sarah (Antos make Cerea! http://www.antosuk.com/ (http://www.antosuk.com/) )
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Sarah1985 on November 01, 2010, 10:26:10 AM
Thanks for that, Sarah (Antos make Cerea! http://www.antosuk.com/ (http://www.antosuk.com/) )

Wups. my mistake  :005:
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: rubyduby on November 03, 2010, 09:17:32 AM
I can confess to also stuggle to find 'safe ' chews i wont touch rawhide and tried Paddywack till I saw the massive pieces passed through in the pups droppings .
My guys chew and 'eat' everything ,cardboard,paper anything they get hold of recently they tried sequins and buttons .
I too would love to know what is out there, even toys are destroyed and 'eaten' I guess walking and tiring is the only answer.
I am wondering how to keep their teeth clean!
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on November 03, 2010, 09:36:34 AM
rubyduby

I give my pup Fish4Dogs "Skinny Strips". One of my local pet shops sells them, so it's quite handy. If you look here at their Sea Jerky range and scroll down, you will see a link for the "Skinny Strips". They don't last as long as a chew (1-2 mins maybe!) but they are very crunchy and good for teeth cleaning.

http://www.fish4dogs.com/Categories/Dog-Shop/treats.aspx (http://www.fish4dogs.com/Categories/Dog-Shop/treats.aspx)

It says:

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Made from 100% fish skins these natural healthy treats have a rough texture which helps remove tartar from your dog’s teeth.
 
Omega 3 and other fish oils to help promote a healthy coat and supple joints.  Omega oils have been shown to improve concentration and temperament.
This is the fish version of raw hide! Rather than chew, dogs crunch through these large dental treats that are comfortably held in the paws.


I'm also going to try the ostrich chews that Nicola recommended and also the veal ones that Ninasmum mentioned.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Anita D on November 03, 2010, 09:52:35 AM
I more often give the ostrich/venison etc. chews from Zooplus but I also give Rodaidh and Caoimhe rawhide chews occasionally, they both enjoy them and they've never had a problem with them. Tilly isn't allowed them because of her illness but she wasn't hugely keen on them anyway. I sometimes buy the flat HiLife ones that come in a tub which usually get chomped straight away and sometimes the twisted knot bone type ones which last for ages. I don't leave them lying around if I'm not there and I bin them once they've been chewed down to a small piece. As was also said on that other thread a dog could choke on anything and they don't pull big lumps off them and try to swallow them so I'm not particularly concerned about that. I'd have more concern about Caoimhe choking on her normal food which she inhales ::) I don't give them pigs' ears because they give Rodaidh the runs but they have had venison ears from Burns which went down pretty well.

Hi Nicola, which chews/treats do you consider the longest lasting?!!  I'd like to order some but I don't want anything that's gone too quickly!!  Thanks.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Nicola on November 03, 2010, 01:09:14 PM
The twisted bone type ones last the longest but they're rawhide so it depends if you're happy to give those, the dogs get a really good chew at them and keep coming back to them. Of the Zooplus natural chews I think it's much of a muchness although the ostrich sinews are pretty good, the dried tripe bits etc. tend to get eaten pretty quickly.

Another one I just remembered is that I bought 3 of these - http://www.petsathome.com/shop/meaty-filled-bone-dog-treats-by-pets-at-home-13275 - and scraped out and binned the crappy filling that comes in them and then I fill them with other stuff (Primula, yoghurt etc.), a bit like a Kong but the dogs seem to prefer these, they spend ages chewing on them even when the filling is gone.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: rubyduby on November 03, 2010, 05:27:01 PM
Mooching

Thanks for the suggestion, I actually think our local petshop stocks fish4dogs stuff, so will see tomorrow what chews are available...
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Mel on November 07, 2010, 09:23:59 PM
Thank you for a really interesting thread, Mooching. I'm going to remove rawhide and try some of the other suggestions.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on November 07, 2010, 10:48:17 PM
If I could just also mention something my Alfie LOVES chewing and it's his Puzzle Bone (made by Nylabone). It's very different from any other Nylabone product, as it's textured and also moves when they chew it (a bit gruesomely perhaps, it's built a bit like vertebrae), and it makes it so much more interesting than just a plain smooth Nylabone. It's really tough too. It comes in two sizes, and is well worth the money as it provides lots of interests and lasts ages.

http://www.nutrecare.co.uk/Product-3369/Nylabone-dog-toys/Nylabone-puzzle-bone-dog-chew (http://www.nutrecare.co.uk/Product-3369/Nylabone-dog-toys/Nylabone-puzzle-bone-dog-chew)
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Black Red + Yellow on November 09, 2010, 10:38:05 AM
Very very rarely and if I do, I never give them the ones with the knots on the ends and make sure they are small ones.....it is a waste of time here - it's only Finn who eats them because he can't let Alfie have them - Willow chews for about 5 minutes then goes to sleep and Alfie just plays with his and then the boys growl at each other and tease each other so can't remember the last time...it's too much bother.

My lot do however enjoy a big ole raw carrot to much on and chicken wings and legs.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Danni and Freya on November 09, 2010, 11:47:03 AM
If I could just also mention something my Alfie LOVES chewing and it's his Puzzle Bone (made by Nylabone). It's very different from any other Nylabone product, as it's textured and also moves when they chew it (a bit gruesomely perhaps, it's built a bit like vertebrae), and it makes it so much more interesting than just a plain smooth Nylabone. It's really tough too. It comes in two sizes, and is well worth the money as it provides lots of interests and lasts ages.

http://www.nutrecare.co.uk/Product-3369/Nylabone-dog-toys/Nylabone-puzzle-bone-dog-chew (http://www.nutrecare.co.uk/Product-3369/Nylabone-dog-toys/Nylabone-puzzle-bone-dog-chew)

I've always looked at different nylabone products but can't imagina a lump of plastic being very appealing for a dog to chew  :huh: do other people use these? I just can't see my two looking at them twice. Thanks for this thread though as I will no longer be buying cheap rawhide for them
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Sarah1985 on November 09, 2010, 12:41:06 PM


I've always looked at different nylabone products but can't imagina a lump of plastic being very appealing for a dog to chew  :huh: do other people use these? I just can't see my two looking at them twice. Thanks for this thread though as I will no longer be buying cheap rawhide for them

My two used them alot when they were teething but now not so much. They enjoyed the meat filled ones and they still get alittle bit of attention but Ive found them to be nowhere nearas appealing as a raw hide.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Pudding on November 09, 2010, 01:00:18 PM
My Bob dose not like them.... he has the paddy wack  Tripe Sticks
Mooching that puzzle bone look interesting just going to have a look at it now  thanks

Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on November 09, 2010, 01:11:57 PM
I've always looked at different nylabone products but can't imagine a lump of plastic being very appealing for a dog to chew  :huh:
I guess it depends on how much of a chewer your dog is. It may still be a bit of a puppy thing (though he does already have most or all of his adult teeth) but he does love chewing - sticks, plant pots, brush handles, bits of plastic pipe  ;) I know some dogs aren't as chewy though.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Karma on November 09, 2010, 05:27:12 PM

Honey couldn't care less about nylabones, but Pepsi (the rottie/bassett we very briefly fostered) absolutely loved hers... so I guess it does depend on the dog...

Honey adores her pizzles (have discovered the local pet shop sells them, so she gets one whole pizzle every couple of weeks now!!) - though the shop had sold out last week so we tried venison ears, which seem to have got the Honey seal of approval!!!  :D
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on November 24, 2010, 02:37:56 PM
These are similar Manda & all of my 4 absolutely love them  http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/dog_treats_chews/beef/sticks/13412
You need to order them quite quickly because they are forever going out of stock.  I have just ordered some for mine after waiting nearly 2 weeks for them to come back in stock  ::)  They are fine for puppies too.  :D


Wendy, based on your recommendation I ordered some from zooplus (along with some Arden Grange and some toys, so that I'd get free postage!) and they arrived today. They look great, and Alfie's had one already!
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Ninasmum on November 24, 2010, 03:59:34 PM
These are similar Manda & all of my 4 absolutely love them  http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/dogs/dog_treats_chews/beef/sticks/13412
You need to order them quite quickly because they are forever going out of stock.  I have just ordered some for mine after waiting nearly 2 weeks for them to come back in stock  ::)  They are fine for puppies too.  :D


Wendy, based your recommendation I ordered some from zooplus (along with some Arden Grange and some toys, so that I'd get free postage!) and they arrived today. They look great, and Alfie's had one already!

Pleased the handsome Alfie likes them too.  :D  Jo Jo especially will wait & forgo any other treat to wait for one of them.  :shades: ;)
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: JeffandAnnie on November 24, 2010, 06:29:17 PM
I've always given rawhide chews to my dogs of various breeds, including pups and never had any problems  :dunno:
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: JeffandAnnie on November 24, 2010, 06:38:49 PM
Just out of interest, is there any evidence that chews made from cat/dog hide are being sold in the UK? Where is this information coming from? I would have thought using cow hide would be much more cost effective then the hide of a small animal, so it seems a really odd that people would do this  :huh: I suspect some urban mythology at work. 
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on November 24, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
Just out of interest, is there any evidence that chews made from cat/dog hide are being sold in the UK? Where is this information coming from? I would have thought using cow hide would be much more cost effective then the hide of a small animal, so it seems a really odd that people would do this  :huh: I suspect some urban mythology at work. 

My understanding is that the chews are not exclusively made from cat/dog hide, but a number of different types of hide are processed and mixed in together.

From this American article: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1803254/rawhide_treats_may_be_deadly_to_your.html?cat=53 (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1803254/rawhide_treats_may_be_deadly_to_your.html?cat=53)

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Rawhide treats are made from dried out animal hide, bones, ears, tails & hooves and come from cows, pigs, lambs and horses. In some countries such as China and Thailand, where their slaughter is not illegal, dog and cat parts are used in the treats intended for the same pets and sold to the United States. Parts are obtained from slaughterhouses then processed and treated usually by soaking the animal parts in lye or lime, deadly chemicals used to make soap, drain opener and other caustic chemical cleaners.

To remove the solution, the animal parts are then bleached - yet another harmful chemical in the product. In some countries, arsenic is used in the treatment process. The rawhide is then formed into a shape that will attract the consumer (and that's you, the one with the wallet) such as a bone, ball or stick. Some rawhide treats have flavors added.

Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: tigs71 on November 24, 2010, 11:11:18 PM
Thanks for that, Sarah (Antos make Cerea! http://www.antosuk.com/ (http://www.antosuk.com/) )

I used to buy these from our vet whenever we went in but have since found them in Tesco & Asda (own brand) for far less than the Antos ones cost.  Unfortunately they only do the green ones and in the toothbrush shape but the ingredient list is identical to the one that Antos sent me in an email.  Mason has 2 or 3 of these a week and he loves them.

The Tesco ones are called Healthy Treat Dentabrushes and at Asda Hero Toothbrush Chews.

I have always avoided the raw hide chews for the reason already discussed.
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: Danni and Freya on November 24, 2010, 11:18:07 PM
Thanks for that, Sarah (Antos make Cerea! http://www.antosuk.com/ (http://www.antosuk.com/) )

I used to buy these from our vet whenever we went in but have since found them in Tesco & Asda (own brand) for far less than the Antos ones cost.  Unfortunately they only do the green ones and in the toothbrush shape but the ingredient list is identical to the one that Antos sent me in an email.  Mason has 2 or 3 of these a week and he loves them.

The Tesco ones are called Healthy Treat Dentabrushes and at Asda Hero Toothbrush Chews.

I have always avoided the raw hide chews for the reason already discussed.

Fantastic news for me, it is so difficult to get hold of Antos chews down here, but I live near asda, so will look for these now  :lol:
Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: mooching on November 25, 2010, 12:05:14 AM
I've always given rawhide chews to my dogs of various breeds, including pups and never had any problems  :dunno:

Same here, but now that I know what I know, I am not willing to take the chance again. Even if the risk of a problem is small, I'd rather play safe and avoid it. If I gave my dog a rawhide chew and he got a blockage, I'd never forgive myself. To me, it's definitely better safe than sorry.

Title: Re: Rawhide chews etc
Post by: jennycockerspaniel on November 25, 2010, 10:11:34 PM
Penny has the croccodile ones she prefers the green ones  and they are Loiss  favourites She had some thin strips of rawhide when she was a puppy but just hid them