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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: Snoo on July 31, 2011, 08:30:43 AM
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Help! I could do with some tips on how to administer eye drops to a wriggling, writhing, squirming, nipping, Clover, who is ten and a half weeks old. The vet says she has dry eyes and she is having one lot of eye drops twice a day, and another lot 6-8 times or more a day. I will be having to administer them single handed as will be on my own during the day - any hints and tips, apart from a vice or strait-jacket would be much appreciated from anyone who has had experience of this. It sounds like she is possibly going to need eye drops permanently. :'(
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You have my sympathy and understanding! Two of ours are on meds for dry eye, Buddy is really co-operative, Oscar on the other hand.....
What works best for me is to sit with my legs around Oscar's chest (which kind of helps to stop him wriggling) and then holding his muzzle with one hand and using the thumb of that hand to help lower the eyelid and then using the other hand to put the drops in.
It does get better as they get more used to it happening - honest! ;)
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This is how I do it. I am right handed.
Hold Clover gently but firmly by the muzzle with you left hand.
With eye drops at the ready in your right hand, with the heel of your right hand on Clovers head, gently pull back a little and as her head comes up, her eye will open so you just drop a little solution/cream onto the centre of the eye ball. All over in a flash with no fighting with the patient.
Our vet showed me how to do it and it works every time. After you've done it once or twice, Clover will know whats coming and will not get stressed outonly make sure that you administer from above the eye.
Good luck.
Gwyneth Colin and Megan
ps, make sure you do not touch the actual eye in any way.
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William has eye drops once a day for Dry Eye and I use much the same method as Megan Ffion with success. However, I appreciate it must be much more difficult with a small, wriggly puppy.
William knows that he will get a treat after he's had his eye drops. I use the verbal cue "eye drops, treat" and he gets on the sofa and lays down, bless him. I place the treat on the arm of the sofa, hold William as described, administer the eye drops and then praise him and give him the treat immediately.
I think you need to try and get Clover into a routine with this, so that she learns there's a place where she has her eye drops and that you will praise and reward her afterwards. It will take time and patience, so good luck with it :bigarmhug:
Has she actually been diagnosed with the condition Dry Eye (Keratoconjunctivitis Sicca or KCS) or does she simply have dry eyes and/or an infection at the moment?
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@HeatherandBenjy: oh my goodness, TWO dogs with dry eye - that must have been a bit of a blow, and such bad luck. At what age were they diagnosed, if you don't mind my asking? My vet said Clover is the youngest dog she has seen with it. Thanks for your tip - I'll have to try that in conjunction with the other suggestions!
@Megan Ffion: Many thanks for your tip too - I am left handed so will just reverse your instructions! You make it sound very easy! Just holding Clover's head still seems an impossibility - you wouldn't believe how strong she can be when she doesn't wish to be restrained! I seem to battle against all four paws and then just when I think I can drip the drops, her ear flap falls over the eye and obscures it! :005: However, I can see that doing it your way, you say her head will come up, so the ears should fall back, and out of the way, right?! I will try this in a mo, before I take her out in the car.
@elaine.e: Thanks for your reply too - I'm surprised at how many people have dogs with eye problems. I like your idea of getting into the routine of it, especially if it is going to be a life long thing, though I am hoping it won't be. When I got Clover she just had very pale greeny-white 'sleepy' in her eyes in the mornings, and rather pink eye whites - but the 'sleepy' disappeared as the mornings wore on. Then on Monday morning a friend came with her granddaughter whom she was worried would cuddle Clover and possibly get the 'sleepy' on her fingers so she grabbed a tissue and before I knew it, had wiped Clover's eyes with it. That afternoon I saw that one eye in particular had green pus in it. On Tuesday I took her to my vet as her eye was by then gummed up after a night's sleep. Fluorescein was used to check the eye and vet was happy there was nothing in it, and no scratches or anything untoward, and she prescribed Fucithalmic. She expected a drastic improvement, but said if no better take her back on Saturday. Well it was no better on Saturday so took her back, saw different vet, who did the Schirmer test. She didn't tell me the (numeric)result except to say there were no tears to speak of and that she has this condition 'dry eye'. She prescibed Viscotears 6-8 times daily as well as finish off the tube of Fucithalmic. Vet said she had not seen it in such a young puppy so is consulting with a specialist on Tuesday and will let me know what to do next. She said she may have to have another kind of eye drop which works on the tear ducts, may have been Optimmune she mentioned? She also said if eye drops don't work there is an op where they take the salivary gland and reroute fluid from there to the eye - sounds horrible and she certainly didn't recommend going that route especially at this stage! I think I have got that down all right but may have slipped up on some of the info as I was quite shocked to find it was most likely going to be a life long thing and not just a little infection. I can't wait till Tuesday to find out what the result is, of her chat with the specialist chap - I am quite upset about Clover having this condition if indeed it is KCS.
P.S. I have done a search on here and found other posts regarding this condition but haven't had time to read them all yet.....
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Poor little Clover! It sounds as if she's going to get used to having her eye drops done. Could you combine it with a delicious treat so that she comes to associate the two? I realise you need to be an octopus to do it and don't envy you, but I bet in a couple of weeks it'll be much easier for you both. :bigarmhug:
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This is how i used to do it.
Sit the dog in front of you or if it is a small pup, on your knee. But facing away from you.
Put your left hand under its jaw so that you are cradling its head and cuddle the dog towards you, restricting its movements. Be gentle but firm and you will have a good cotrol of its movements.
Hold the drops in your right hand and put the heel of your right hand ot top of the head.
use your left thumb or index finger (depending on which eye) to gently pull the lower eyelid down and at the same time use the heel of you right hand to gently draw the top eyelid back. You can now squeeze the drops in.
Hope this makes sense :blink: :blink:
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So sorry to hear little Clover has dry eye ....she is so very young & will keep all paws crossed that it is the type that rights itself in time & with treatment :luv:
There are various reasons for the onset of this condition - one of my girls, Purdey has it & is probably linked to her having multiple allergies. Hers was extremely bad at one point but with a change to her diet & trials of various drops, she is virtually 'cured' (I say that with fingers crossed ;) ) She only requires drops occasionally as her eyes are now making tears & eye care/bathing is not really needed as often as before.
IMO I would recommend a refferal to an ophthalmologist ASAP - vets are super in the job they do but the specialist will know better how to treat & monitor her condition correctly ..........eyes are so very precious & need to be treated by the best you can get, especially as she so very young.
Purdeys previous episodes of dry eye have cause scarring in the form of ghost vessels across her eyes & for her, her sight is similar to looking through net curtains - prevention of this is helped by correct treatment which only a specialist might now (I say that as some vets are pretty hot on eyes & yours maybe one but still recommend an ophthalmologist ;) )
The tips for administering eye drops already given are much the same for me too but would add that I always sit the girls on a breakfast bar stool (less inclined to try & jump off) & initially I got someone to help with a treat ....tube of primular cheese spread is fab! until they get used to having it done ;)
good luck & please keep us updated with how she gets on
big :bigarmhug: for Clover :luv:
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Thank you all so much for your tips and advice - I am sure Clover will get used to it eventually - it just seems such a shame when she is so young. I have tried out some of your tips already and will continue to do so - anything to make this as stress-free for both of us!
@Jonnydog: Yes, a tasty treat does help, and she will come to expect it hopefully and be more willing to have the deed done to her, poor puppy. 'Octopus' describes her perfectly, rather than me having to be one, but must agree 8 arms and hands would be really useful, lol! :lol:
@mcc: I did have more success with her on my lap so thanks for that tip. I did also have to 'reverse' your instructions as easier for me, being left handed, to have the tube in my left hand!
@lindseyp: I was interested that you said '...hope it's the type that rights itself, etc....' because it is always difficult to recall after the appointment what the vet has said exactly but now you have mentioned it I think she maybe did say something along those lines herself, as a possibility. I will have another chat with her on the phone on Tuesday after she has consulted the opthalmologist and hopefully find out a lot more. So sorry to hear about Purdey having had it so bad - I imagine their eyes must feel like they have grit in all the time - Clover's whites are very pink and must be sore? The drops are really helping to keep that green matter at bay though and she doesn't seem too bothered by her eyes. More intent on scratching her neck where her collar is! It's a real pity that Purdey's eyesight has been affected by the condition. Rotten for her - do you notice it affecting anything she does?
One worry I do have is that with giving treats every time Clover has the eye drops, (plus the ones she has for reward when she does something right), she will get an upset tummy. I doubt she would think kibbles of her normal food would be worth being a good girl for so I shall have to give her something nicer than that.....but what is NOT likely to upset a puppy's delicate tum? :-\ (I reckon she would love Primula but maybe had better stick to something not quite so rich?!!! :005:
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I got some lovely little bone-shaped treats from Zooplus. They are made of venison I think, and I break them into 3 tiny pieces. So far Penny's been fine with them and she loves them too. She's not impressed with bits of kibble either. I've used Primula a couple of times - a little lick and she loves it. Too much chicken was a bit disastrous.
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@HeatherandBenjy: oh my goodness, TWO dogs with dry eye - that must have been a bit of a blow, and such bad luck. At what age were they diagnosed, if you don't mind my asking? My vet said Clover is the youngest dog she has seen with it. Thanks for your tip - I'll have to try that in conjunction with the other suggestions!
Perhaps I should have explained that all of our dogs are rescue dogs. Buddy is an 11 year old blue roan show cocker who has only recently been diagnosed with dry eye (within the last six months). Oscar is an American cocker who arrived aged 8 (he is now 10) with a whole host of health problems, dry eye being one of them. It wasn't helped by the fact he'd not been clipped for months and had hair completely covering his eyes. He hadn't previously had treatment for it and sadly has lost a lot of his vision, but the drops certainly help to keep his eyes infection free.
Good luck with Clover.
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When Tali was a 9 week old pup, I had to administer eye drops, as I do now, several times daily.
The vet showed me how to wrap him in a towel and with the pup facing away from me, put the drops in.
Unfortunately I think this is a lot of the cause of his behaviour problems as he always bit and squirmed with me and was an angel with the vet :-\
But anyway, wrap him in a towel to stop the squirming.
Now I just lift his eye lid and drop them in.
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Oh no...sorry to read Clovers eyes need treatment...everything crossed it will be something she will grow out of...
Freya came down with conjunctivitis (the same time as she had kennel cough) at about 10 weeks old. To say trying to do eye drops on my own was a breeze is quite frankly me lying!! Talk about a very wriggly puppy!! Oh my...the amount of times I kept missing too (roll eyes!!)...
In the end I wrapped her up in a fleecy blanket so her legs did go in all directions and I was able to do it 1st time. By the end of the course I was getting really good too!!
I hope things get easier as you both get into a routine... :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:
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We've been very lucky with Milly, she's on eye drops prior to an eye op and has been for a few weeks. The first few days were rather difficult but she now seems to like the whole procedure.
When she sees the box appear from the fridge she heads for her bed, lies down and rolls over onto her back. We just need two fingers to hold her eyelids open and she lies perfectly still. As soon as the drops are in she takes off for a mad few minutes and the comes back for her treat and to have her eyes wiped of any spillage.
We've certainly not trained her to do this, it's something she's just started doing and now looks on as a bit of fun. :luv:
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Hee hee, Goggins and Mel, I might have to resort to the towel or blanket option if she keeps struggling! Hubby held her for me tonight which made it slightly easier but even then she still managed to whip her head out of my grasp! She is literally 'head strong'!!! Oh Goggins, poor Freya getting kennel cough and conjunctivitis at the same time at such a tender age, bless her heart. Mel, I think they take on a new personality at the vets and act like butter wouldn't melt - then get them home again and the 'little devils' in them, return!!!
@Johnnydog: Thanks for the suggestion, I think I may have seen those venison treats on Zoo Plus - I frequent all the best known pet supply websites these days, lol!!!
@BobnDot: I am SO envious of you with Milly! Can we swap?! (No I wouldn't really want to part with Clover!) Hope Milly's op goes off ok when the time comes. Let us know how she gets on.
@HeatherandBenjy:Aw, thanks for explaining about your lovely rescues - it's sad that Oscar has suffered with his vision because he wasn't cared for properly before he came to you. I reckon they have both landed on their feet now though - bet they are thoroughly spoilt, and quite rightly so! :luv:
Thanks again to everyone for your support and suggestions. All much appreciated! xx
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Tell me about it. He's an angel to everyone but enjoys nothing more than 'attacking' me with growls and biting and trying to do some harm to those nasty hands which hold him in place for the drops. :shades:
He's on them for life though, so 99% of the time he's ok with them, it's that 1% where he protests which is painful :-\
Yet as you rightly say, anything at the vets and it's "Please help me. I'll be good. She hates me and hasn't fed me in 14 yrs, even though I'm only Oneth". :005:
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Oh Sue, I'm sooo sorry to hear about your bad luck and the misfortune of Clover having this eye problem. Hopefully it is not permanent, but if it is, I hope that you manage to give Clover her eye drops as easy as can be.
Looking forward to hearing some good news.
Love Lizzie and Betsy
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So, so sorry to read about little Clover. It is awful, I know from experience with Freya.
They do eventually get used to having the drops in, honestly. Freya actually comes running into the kitchen now when I shout her and say 'drops Freya'...................don't know whether the additional throw in of 'then your bickie' helps a bit. :005: :005:
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Well, the vet was supposed to ring me today and she hasn't so I presume she hasn't managed to speak to the specilaist yet - or has forgotten. I still have some drops left so will continue with those for another day or two and if no call from the vet, will have to chase her up. Clover runs to her special place to have her eyes done, now, when I say the cue word, but I think perhaps I made the mistake of giving a treat before and after - should only have done the after one! She still wriggles like a snake so this last time I put her on my lap instead of on the floor and it was a bit easier - though I did cause her to yelp once so must have held her too tightly. :embarassed:
Thanks for your continuing kind comments and advice - will post more when I know more!
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sounds like progress for little Clover - bless her :005: :luv:
hope you hear back from the vets soon but if not, like you say - chase them up ;)
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Jasper has developed dry eye (along with everything else) recently and I have to say routine and a treat work really well for us. Hubby now just has to say Jasper eyes and he sits front and centre and lifts his head up has his drops in (6 times a day) and gets a piece of chicken :luv:. If you can get a routine going and your pupster realises something tasty is at they end of it fingers crossed things should get easier.
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UPDATE!
The vet rang - she spoke to a specialist and the outcome is this: they think there are two problems with Clover's eyes - infection and dry eye. They want to attack the problem vigorously and I now have to do drops 13 times a day - Fucithalmic 3 x daily, Optimmune 2 x daily, and Viscotears 6 - 8 times daily. On top of that she also has to have Nisamox antibiotic tablets, one twice daily. I have to take her back next Wednesday for a re-check. The breeder wants me to get a second opinion or referral - I would like to do that too, but it is very difficult when the vet who has diagnosed the problem is also one I have to work with occasionally! If anyone can come up with a nice way of telling her that's what I want to do without upsetting her or looking like I don't trust her diagnosis I would appreciate it! She is pretty feisty so it is going to have to be real tactful!!! :huh:
Clover is being very good about having the drops done now - I say the words 'do Clover's eyes' and scoop her up onto my lap with her back to me like mcc suggested, she often lies down at this stage, actually! then I let her sniff the quarters of Good Boy choc drops I have prepared earlier! Then she allows me to do both eyes, and then she gets her treats. With the pills, I just open her mouth and poke them down her throat followed by something tasty to nibble on - corned beef today - tiny amount. Am worried the antibiotics may give her the runs so don't want to add to the problem with too many, or too rich, treats. I had a cat once who got an upset tummy just having eye drops - I think he must have wiped his eyes with a paw, then licked it, and so ingested some of the drops. Not good! So fingers crossed that Clover doesn't get any nasty side effects, and that the treatment will work and perhaps the problem will right itself. I just remembered that the vet did say that the condition may not be life-long if treated at this early stage.
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sorry the news wasn't better for little Clover (& you!) :'(
The breeder wanting a referral could be your reason for asking for one off your vet ....you shouldn't really need a reason but understand why it could make you uncomfortable.
A referral is the best next move for Clover because although she's having treatment, which could well stabilise or improve her condition, having the incorrect/unsuitable treatment could actually make her eyes worse long term. Purdey has Maxitrol eye drops but needs regular check ups as they must not be used if there is any signs of ulcers in the eye.
Glad to hear the little sweetheart isn't too stressed by having them done now ;) ....she'll be a grand master soon :lol2: & will keep paws crossed the meds don't upset her tummy :luv:
Purdeys condition is probably allergy related but has improved greatly since a change in diet - perhaps in the future this is something that may help Clover too ;)
thinking of you both - please keep us updated with how you get on
Lindsey x
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Great that Clover's calmed down when getting her eye drops, they really seem to know that you're just trying to help them don't they? :luv:
A lot of tact and diplomacy may well be needed when dealing with your vet but I'm sure that she'll realise that you want no more than the best possible outcome for Clover. By speaking to a specialist she's already accepted that she needed a second opinion and it would be reasonable now to suggest that the specialist examines Clover just to confirm their joint diagnosis and to advise, after examination, on her continued treatment.
Milly sends her love :luv: and she'll be heading for her op in a fortnight. (Would have been this week but the specialist is off sick at the moment).
Please keep us up to date on Clover's progress and I'll let everyone know how Milly gets on in a couple of weeks.
Big hugs to Clover. :bigarmhug:
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Are peggy also comes running to have her eye drops in...
A tip i use was to mention the word (Chocolate drop time as to eye drops)(doggy ones only) and peggy has associated it as a nice treat and will sit up for her eye drops to be put in and the reward afterwords...Simples...
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Good to know wee Clover's getting used to her eye drops - bless her :luv: :luv: Hope that the outcome with the specialist is positive. Keeping paws crossed.
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Thank you all for your suggestions and tips.
@Lindseyp, I think that might be a good way of suggestiong a referral to the specialist (can't spell opthalmwhatsit! :-\)and I see your point about making absolutely sure that the treatment is right for her. Really interested about Purdey's prob being to do with allergies - I have had two cats which developed allergies since we moved here to the country - one is diagnosed as being allergic to tree and plant pollens amongs several other things. I wonder if, since Clover was born and bred in a built up area, the change to country air may have some bearing on the problem?! An interesting thought! What food does Purdey have now, out of interest? (Have I asked you this before??? :-\ Sorry if I am repeating myself - my brain is frazzled lately!)
@Deb H, so sorry to hear that Jasper also has this problem now - you are right about the routine part - I am actually having to give 13 lots of drops a day so have made a list of them all in alternating order and mark down the times I give them, trying to spread them throughout the day. It is just as well I don't work except on the occasional Saturday at the vets, and that I am not one for going out and about shopping or visiting or whatever! And yes, it is amazing what they will do for food!!!
@BobnDot, I think it's more the fact that she gets choc drops after her eye drops rather than the fact that she senses I am trying to help her! :lol: But seriously, I do think her eyes must feel more comfy after the drops as the whites tend to look pink and I am sure the eyes must feel sore and gritty. Aw, so sorry to hear that you have to wait before Milly can get her op done - what exactly are they going to be doing to her eyes? Yes, keep us updated on her progress afterwards - will be thinking of you and Milly. (Love her name - my niece's dog is called Milly too!)
@seaangler, yes, I do believe they eventually come to think of it as a treat to have their eyes done!!! Clover is 99.9% better than she was with having the drops put in! Phew!!!
@Johnnydog, thank you for your kind thoughts! :-*
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:'( oh no poor Clover...what a good girl she is though re the eye drops...
:bigarmhug: Please pass on a big hug to Clover from Freya and me and of course one for you too!! :bigarmhug:
When my boxer had poss heart prob (not known in the "lines") the breeder went mad and wanted a second opinion asap. I felt awful asking my vet but they accepted that it was for the breeders interest only and they agreed to refer on. Def use the "breeder wants" words and Im sure the vet will accept this...good luck xx
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Aw thanks for that, Goggins - and very sorry to hear about your boxer doggy. My sister has had three boxers and still has a soft spot for them although she says she is too old now to have another of her own. She also enjoys being 'aunty' to my three cats and Clover-pup! :luv: :lol:
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Thank you all for your suggestions and tips.
@Lindseyp, I think that might be a good way of suggestiong a referral to the specialist (can't spell opthalmwhatsit! :-\)and I see your point about making absolutely sure that the treatment is right for her. Really interested about Purdey's prob being to do with allergies - I have had two cats which developed allergies since we moved here to the country - one is diagnosed as being allergic to tree and plant pollens amongs several other things. I wonder if, since Clover was born and bred in a built up area, the change to country air may have some bearing on the problem?! An interesting thought! What food does Purdey have now, out of interest? (Have I asked you this before??? :-\ Sorry if I am repeating myself - my brain is frazzled lately!)
Tis OK Sue, you're not going doolally just yet, you haven't asked me before ;) :005:
For the past 2 1/2 years Purdey (& my other two) have been on a BARF diet (Biologically Appropriate Raw Food or as some might say Bones And Raw Food?) & it is during this time that I & my vet have seen a remarkable change in Purdey & her health. Our typical annual insurance claim would usually be averaging £400+ but last year it was under £100 (& I think the year before too ;) ) & this year I'm not even putting in a claim, as it would barely exceed the excess :dance04: It hasn't been a total cure for all her symptoms but it certainly has been a vast improvement in her health & I believe, her quality of life too :luv:
Not sure where you are in Dorset Sue but our supplier is based at West Moors (there are other COLers that use them too ;) ) & they have recently opened a much larger production facility inc. small shop in Upton Poole. As well as providing everything you need for a good diet for your dog they also stock holistic & alternative remedies from Dorwest & Phytopet. They take the hastle, confusion & yuckyness :020: out of, what can be a complex & messy form of feeding. They make it simple for me & nutritionally balanced for the girls & they love it :lol2: :P :luv:
The food supplier is http://nurturingbynature.co.uk/ (sorry but I notice their website is under improvement :-\ ) If you wish to contact them at all, ask for Nettie Platt who's business it is & is most knowledgeable & extremely helpful about all things dog (& other animals) :luv:
http://www.dorwest.com/
http://trade.phytopet.co.uk/home.aspx
Hope this is some help for you - let me know if I can be of any further help ;)
Lindsey :-*
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Linseyp...Very nice post she leves..Just love reading snoo post and yours post..You both deserve Blue Peter badges :D But snoo post :shades: just has the edge over yours ;)
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Hi Lindseyp, many thanks for all the info - I have had a look at the Nurturing by Nature website and their Facebook page. I might consider BARF if Clover's eyes show no improvement after giving the treatment a fair go - it does sound more natural for a dog than dried kibble I must say, and I can understand the benefits.
I actually live quite near to Dorwest Herbs and have an account with them although I can't say I have found the products I have tried on my cats so far to be very successful, but maybe dogs react better to them than cats do! Funny things cats, but I love 'em! :luv:
It's really great news that you have seen such an improvement in Purdey, (and in your pocket, lol!), must be a huge relief. Anyway, you have given me 'food' for thought (pardon the pun :005: :005: :005:). Will see how Clover goes and keep you posted! Off out with Clover now, for a walk to my sister's for a much needed cup of coffee! It's great to get Clover out on a lead, instead of having to carry her!!!
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Linseyp...Very nice post she leves..Just love reading snoo post and yours post..You both deserve Blue Peter badges :D But snoo post :shades: just has the edge over yours ;)
......note to self = change type setting to a pretty colour >:( :021:
(thanks Chris ;) )
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Morning!
Just thought I would let all who are interested to know, the latest on Clover's dry eye problem. After a week of using 3 different types of drops 13 times a day, plus an antibiotic tablet morning and night, I took her back for another Schirmer eye test today, and the vet was pleased to tell me that her score has gone up to 15, so we can now just finish off the tablets (2 more days worth) and cut back on the eye drops - still three different types, but only 8 times a day now! So she so far seems to be heading in the right direction..... Another check up in 2 weeks time. I was SO glad to hear that news, I can tell you. :banana: :clapping: She was amazingly good having the test done - sitting very still for one whole minute, twice in succession, is quite a task for a 12 week old pup! A few tasty treats may have helped persuade her though! And she met some lovely dogs in the waiting room to rub noses with, too - unlike the horrid great beast >:D that frightened the life out of her on our walk the other day!
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Ooo good news for wee Clover :luv:
You have done really well dealing with all
this and so has Clover :D
Onwards and upwards Sue!
Please keep us posted......
steffnelliexxx
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:bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: Thats fantastic news hun...bet youre so happy!!
Good girl Clover being so clever at the vets for your tests :clapping: :bigarmhug:
Let us know how she gets on at her next appt in a couple of weeks...
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See lindseyp.... Snoo did not bat an eyelid(talking about her) with the post above she just got on with her post :D
Also glad Clover is doing fine....
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Brilliant news! I hope Clover continues to improve. What a good girl at the vet's too!
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Wonderful news now that Clover is doing better.
What a clever girl you are behaving yourself impeccably at the vets.
Keep getting better day by day :luv: :luv: :luv:
Love,
Gwyneth Colin and Megan XXX
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Oh Sue, I'm really pleased that you have had some success with Clover and her eyes.
Both you and Clover deserve a Gold star for all the hard work you have put into helping clear up Clover's eye problems.
I hope that her eyes will get even better as the weeks go by.
Big hugs and kisses to Clover. Love Lizzie and Betsy.
PS: I'm taking Betsy to see Daniel (the Vet) tomorrow at 11:25 as she seems to have a blood shot eye most of the time and my mummy is worrying so much that there might be something wrong with her, so I'm being over cautious and taking her to see Daniel.
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Really pleased the meds have helped ease Clover's dry eye - hopefully it was just a temprorary failure of tear production & in time will be back to normal. :angel: Even if it doesn't & she needs further treatment, it sounds like you've got the eye care procedure down to a fine art, with little Clover not bothered much at all :luv:
Paws crossed for more good news in a few weeks time :bigarmhug:
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See lindseyp.... Snoo did not bat an eyelid(talking about her) with the post above she just got on with her post :D
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See Chris .......I think Snoos ignoring you :rofl1: (pretty clour just for you ! .....where's my badge? :005: )
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Thank you to everyone for your support and kind messages ( you too, Seaangler!) - it means a lot knowing you are all there for Clover and I. I'm really glad I found this Forum and all my new cocker friends! ;) :005:
@Lizzie, yes, do get Betsy's eyes checked out, they are too precious to ignore if you think there is something not right. Might be also worth mentioning Clover's dry eye problem while you are there. Daniel may be interested to know that Betsy's sister has eye probs.
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@ Lindseyp: just noticed you added a message - and I had just put that note to Seaangler too, lol! Love your green font!!! Prettier than my purple!
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Off topic:
@ Lindseyp: just noticed you added a message - and I had just put that note to Seaangler too, lol! Love your green font!!! Prettier than my purple!
Not sure if you caught up with it or not sue - but there was a thread of Seaanglers (Chris) running & it concerned you (although we had to guess :005: ) you've got a Blue Peter Badge ........lucky you! :lol2: waiting to be awarded & seeing as I came a lowly second I'm trying to score points to raise myself in the rankings :rofl1: :rofl1: .......a touch of infantile humour on my part but funny never the less :005:
here it is if you missd it ;)
http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=85563.0
......& sorry, completely off topic :lol2:
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Oh!!! :005: I hadn't realised all that was going on! I haven't had chance to read it all properly yet because of Clover being very demanding tonight but I will do as soon as I get a moment when she is asleep! You know what small puppies are like....! ;) From the quick glimpse I did manage it looks like a good old bit of fun.... :lol: I'm surprised my ears haven't been burning! Can't wait to get stuck in for a good read and giggle! :011: