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Cocker Specific Discussion => Behaviour & Training => Topic started by: DarceyTheDog on November 22, 2011, 10:05:50 AM
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Darcey is crying every night to get into our bed. Its causing loss of sleep and we've tried everything I don't know what to do. She used to be happy in her crate but it's every night she cries and bangs. At 1 st I'd take her out but now she runs to the bedroom door. As I close it now she then jumps on the sofa and won't budge. I have to pick her up and put her in her crate. She had me up 4 times last night.
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could you not let her sleep on the sofa?
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I tried that Helen anything for a good nights sleep lol didn't work she cried at the bedroom door till I let her in just to get some sleep. I don't know if moving her crate into the bedroom might be an idea.
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The crate in the bedroom may be a good idea...sorry the relocation back to the living room after she was ill hasn't worked.
She's not cold is she?
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Oh I know lol me and the OH are taking turns at getting up. She's got a quilt in her bed but the heatings still not on. When we've been getting up it's not cold in the living room. I'll have a think if I can move her crate or put the heating on low for a few days to see if it makes a difference.
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When we had to be firm with Honey about her crate, she would try to avoid returning to it after we had let her out. We just blocked off the alternatives and waited... So she didn't have access to the sofa etc, and I sat at the Dining table and waited until she chose to return to her crate, at which point she got a "good girl", a biscuit and we went back to bed....
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I've no advice- but just glad I'm not alone!
Florence is desperate to sleep in our room. She barked me last night at 4.30am, I went down to let her outside- she ran between my legs, through the kitchen door and was curled in a ball by the side of my bed pretending to be asleep before I'd got back upstairs :005:
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I've no advice- but just glad I'm not alone!
Florence is desperate to sleep in our room. She barked me last night at 4.30am, I went down to let her outside- she ran between my legs, through the kitchen door and was curled in a ball by the side of my bed pretending to be asleep before I'd got back upstairs :005:
That's what darcey would do if I shut the door. If she does it tonight I'll try her on the sofa again. She's wanders round if she sleeps in our bed and wakes the OH up constantly!
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Well, this is what I would do... Put her in her crate and if she wakes you in the night, go down and tell her in no uncertain terms to be quiet and go back to sleep without letting her out of the crate. If you think she needs to go out, let her out with minimum interaction then back into crate if you can. Don't know how old she is, though. Freddie was waking us up at about 5am every morning until a year ago - a friend gave me the advice above. Did it 2 mornings in a row and he stopped the 5am alarm call.
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Well, this is what I would do... Put her in her crate and if she wakes you in the night, go down and tell her in no uncertain terms to be quiet and go back to sleep without letting her out of the crate. If you think she needs to go out, let her out with minimum interaction then back into crate if you can. Don't know how old she is, though. Freddie was waking us up at about 5am every morning until a year ago - a friend gave me the advice above. Did it 2 mornings in a row and he stopped the 5am alarm call.
That's how we do try to do it. It's OH's turn tonight and he's better at being stern than me. Will let you know how we get on.
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Well she got the OH up once. I didnt wake up lol. He gave her a stern talking to and she didn't wake him up again!
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Woo a full nights undisturbed sleep! Hopefully it'll stay that way.
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;)That's good news!
Good girl Darcey!
steffnelliexxx
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Well she got the OH up once. I didnt wake up lol. He gave her a stern talking to and she didn't wake him up again!
I was under the the understanding that was wrong to do so...
But as you say(a stern talking to)Being part of the old school (i see nothing wrong in what you have done...And i have done so with most of my dogs (with no ill afect in later life)You have to show whos BOSS(and that is you)..Simples...
P.S We had the same with are gemma (on the second night)she turn the cage up side down and yap....Gave her a good talking to and she has been as good as gold ever since..Shes out the cage sleeping on her own bed she sleeps through untill one of us gets up...When i am on nights i come in at five let her out (for wee wee) give her a bonio and she goes back to bed.....No proplem....
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I'm not into the whole dog whisperer cessar what's his name type thing but she's my baby and is getting a bit spoilt me thinks. So it was time to toughen up.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with making it clear that you are not happy. I always practise reward based training in every other respect but I have to say that the 5am alarm calls were driving me insane, almost literally. I was waking up BEFORE he even started barking, any time from 4am onwards and then lay there awake just waiting for the barking to start. I know that plenty on here would balk at using stern words as a way of communicating that a behaviour is undesirbable (and I probably wouldn't have done it if he was a nervous dog) but I was getting to the end of my tether. I am sure the barking had become a habit - Freddie thought he had to bark to get someone to come down in the morning. Once we had shown him that we would always come down to him, he stopped. It has not changed his behaviour in any other way.
Hope things continue in the same vein for you.
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Even after the talking to she's normal with us not scared or anything. She always used to cower if OH used the voice of doom but now she just looks sheepish. She's not the nervous scared of the OH dog she was when we 1st got her. Now she thinks she's the boss. Lol and quite alot of the time she is lol
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Hi, I have it the other way round! I have a puppy who we dont hear a murmur from all night if she is downstairs in her crate and an OH who whines >:( >:( >:( that he wants the puppy to sleep with us which results in early morning toilet trips - she then settles downstairs until we get up.
Is there a training manual for the other halves in our lives?
Pat x
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You should write one lol if darcey sleeps with us she's up and down all night and we've got laminate floors so all you can hear is click click click lol darcey is much better now she's gotten out of the habit and the OH gets up if she whines to tell her to be quite and it's sleepy time :005:
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Good to see that you worked it out. We were planning on being strict with Aramis but after a few weeks he was allowed on the bed (BIG mistake) and he now classes that as his bed. When we got our husky he was meant to be an outside dog (lasted 1 hour) then he had to sleep in the garage (lasted 1 night) then he was meant to sleep in the spare room (lasted 1 night) then in his basket in our bedroom (2 nights) and now he sleeps next to me on the bed...
My wife and I end up squashed between two dogs for most of the night, so we've learnt our lesson about dogs on the bed!
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Hee Hee! Arnie, at least
you're squashed between
the dogs;it would be sadder
if the dogs were in the middle
of you and Mrs Arnie ;)
steffxxx
ps anyhoo they keep you warm
at night!
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I don't mind having her in bed with us Steff and yes she's in the middle lol she also like to sleep in between your legs so there pinned in place all night and you wake up stiff!
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Willows crate is in our room id think of doing that if it came to it. She has a cuddle on our bed before sleep and then we pop her in the crate. On the weekends we then allow her on out bed for a cuddle in the morning too. :luv: :luv:
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What amazes me is the fact that an English Cocker can take up more space that a Siberian Husky crossed with something like German Shepherd. Aramis ends up with 2/3 of the bed and the rest of us have to work around him.
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Just one of a multitude of reasons that Freddie has remained in his crate at night...!
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It's started again but she's not had a break even the stern voice of the OH isn't working. I don't know what to try now!
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Oo that's no good :huh:
I really don't have any advice
Katie but sending you a :bigarmhug:
coz I bet you didn't get much
sleep again.
steffxxx
ps twas freezing at ours last night,
Ellie on her bed till early hours then
she must of relocated (didn't wake me)
as she was on ours when I woke.Is she
cold?
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We're going through that at the moment, OH allowed Maike into bed in the mornings when she started barking after her 5am wake-up call and this turned into her barking in the night, in the morning... I haven't had an uninterrupted night's sleep in 3 weeks, and suprisingly enough instead of barking to go toilet once at about 4am she suddenly wanted/needed out at least three times.
Well, thank goodness for thick walls and slightly hard-of-hearing musician neighbours as we just decided to let her bark. 40 minutes yesterday at 4:30 in the morning but then she was blessedly quiet. Tonight I slept alright (night nurse and earplugs ) but at about 7 there was a dog in the bed again! I asked OH what was going on and apparently "she's been so good, she only barked once at 4am for about five minutes and then at 5 for five minutes!". Oh well, that's alright then!
I reckon it's going to take another night or two with earplugs and just letting her get on with it to stop the racket at night but hopefully by then the bad habit will have been exorcised.
I'm sorry Darcey has started up again and if you are in a position to do so, maybe sleeping with earplugs for a couple of nights might be the way to go. Once she realizes no one is reacting to her crying she might stop. Leave her with an extra blanket to make sure she's not cold so you can sleep without worrying.
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Thanks I can't do ear plugs and have tried ignoring her but the OH can't! I'll pop a blanket in with her tonight to see if it makes a difference.
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Well after wrapping her up in a blanket last night we had a full nights sleep yay let's hope it works!
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We had this with Diesel, Even though the OH is stricter with diesel im the strict one with his routine - When we got diesel and put him to bed he would whine, and howl on the first night - OH wanted to put him in our room to settle him - Nope no way - started as i meant to go on - I sat at bottom of stairs gave it 20 mins and then he settled - Now Diesel wont even settle in our bed he cries at the door to get to his own bed in the kitchen.
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I used a canine lullabies CD with Wallace, that worked for me.
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I used a canine lullabies CD with Wallace, that worked for me.
Ooooo where can I get one lol it would be a last resort before moving her bed into our room. I really do think it's because she wants to be in bed with us.
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Here you go
http://www.caninelullabies.com/
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I haven't read all of the comments/suggestions so hope I'm not repeating someone else's idea but what about putting something of yours (old pair of jeans/tshirt/whatever) in her bed with her at bedtime? It worked for Clover when she first came to us. Might be worth a try? :-\
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I haven't read all of the comments/suggestions so hope I'm not repeating someone else's idea but what about putting something of yours (old pair of jeans/tshirt/whatever) in her bed with her at bedtime? It worked for Clover when she first came to us. Might be worth a try? :-\
No one has suggested it Snoo and it's a good idea butttttttt she'd eat them lol
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I haven't read all of the comments/suggestions so hope I'm not repeating someone else's idea but what about putting something of yours (old pair of jeans/tshirt/whatever) in her bed with her at bedtime? It worked for Clover when she first came to us. Might be worth a try? :-\
No one has suggested it Snoo and it's a good idea butttttttt she'd eat them lol
Ah, that could be a problem..... ;)
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We brought Penny home and she slept though the night in her bed inside puppy pen until 13 weeks when
she cried as we went to bed and OH said she can come up with she would be coming any way. Sleeps all night on mine mostly on our heads and and she just lies there, is terrible to get up in the morning even when Oh gets up for Lois and its the bed to the top of the stairs and he comes back for her
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My problem is that our working cocker Wilfie SUDDENLY developed this night time neurosis at the age of 3! He runs and hides the minute we try to put him to bed - he has the run of the kitchen and utlility room, his own armchair in the kitchen, crate in the utility room, cushions, blankets, toys, an old denim jacket of mine .....
We tried everything - if he sleeps with us he paws at our heads and wakes us, burrows under the duvet, just will not settle. We let him have the run of the house and he chewed the coats hanging in the hall including my Boden mac and my husbands crombie overcoat so that was a very expensive mistake. Now he is back in the kitchen he is chewing his way through the turtle mats peice by peice. The last 3 nights has had us up most of the night crying and banging at the kitchen door. We tried Bachs Rescue remedy at the suggestion of a neighbour - that didn't work either. I am at the end of my tether and thinking of changing his name from Wilfred to Wilfull.
Would really appreciate any thoughts or ideas....
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Perhaps a checkup at the vet might be an idea? If they are unwell then that can trigger a change in behaviour.
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Jess chewed all the furniture in the kitchen and destroyed countless Jonny's beds ( not hers of course!). We bought a crate when she was about five as I'd not seen them before, but an American friend told me about them, put her in it at night and bingo - she settled quite happily and loved her crate ever after and no more chewed stuff. Wish we'd done it years ago. Needless to say, Penny has been crated from the beginning.
What I'm saying is, it's not to late to start with a crate if you introduce it gradually and carefully as if he was a puppy.
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My problem is that our working cocker Wilfie SUDDENLY developed this night time neurosis at the age of 3! He runs and hides the minute we try to put him to bed - he has the run of the kitchen and utlility room, his own armchair in the kitchen, crate in the utility room, cushions, blankets, toys, an old denim jacket of mine .....
We tried everything - if he sleeps with us he paws at our heads and wakes us, burrows under the duvet, just will not settle. We let him have the run of the house and he chewed the coats hanging in the hall including my Boden mac and my husbands crombie overcoat so that was a very expensive mistake. Now he is back in the kitchen he is chewing his way through the turtle mats peice by peice. The last 3 nights has had us up most of the night crying and banging at the kitchen door. We tried Bachs Rescue remedy at the suggestion of a neighbour - that didn't work either. I am at the end of my tether and thinking of changing his name from Wilfred to Wilfull.
Would really appreciate any thoughts or ideas....
I'd get him checked over by the vet
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I now tuck darcey in at night and she sleeps through! Lol she's an old lady she needs her sleep and so do I lol good luck with wilfie.