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Title: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: hollyd443 on March 18, 2012, 08:25:40 PM
Hi,

Roxy's always had a problem of howling in her sleep - not just a whimper, a full, extremley loud head back howl. She wakes herself up doing it - doesn't seem too bothered by it and after 30seconds goes back to sleep. She sleeps downstairs in a room with the door shut (with Rio) but it still wakes me up its that loud, even the neighbors have heard it  :-\ I'm getting really disrupted sleep :-\ She is deaf but has been vet checked with no other problems. It all started with an incident as a puppy when she had some sort of night terror (?) when she woke very disturbed, frantic, jumped the stairgate and hid behind my bed growling and snapping at me. This week she's been to stay with family that she's stayed with many times before where she is spoiled rotten, has loads and loads of exercise, sleeps by there bed etc and I wondered if these two scenarios (being more tired and sleeping close to a person she really likes) would stop her howling but apparently she's been doing it up to three times a night  :-\

In the past I've given her a calming supplement with a little success, just wondered if anyone had any experience of the above and/or a supplement to calm her right down before bed? She's coming back on Wednesday and I'm really not looking forward to night howling!

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!!

Many thanks,

Holly
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: Toni-UK on March 18, 2012, 08:33:19 PM
I don't think i can be any help Holly but just wanted to say that Ruby does EXACTLY this 5 nights out of 7.

She is also asleep while doing it,head back very very loud and even has a little "o" mouth while doing the howl/yodel.
She usually wakes herself up and looks around as if to say what the hell was that but it doesn't seem to distress her at all.
We always say it's like she is dreaming she's lost us or she is so sad,but what do we know  :huh:

Could you try a DAP diffuser in the room she sleeps in,or could she sleep in with you? maybe not a possibility with the little'un  :-\
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: hollyd443 on March 18, 2012, 08:41:18 PM
I don't think i can be any help Holly but just wanted to say that Ruby does EXACTLY this 5 nights out of 7.

She is also asleep while doing it,head back very very loud and even has a little "o" mouth while doing the howl/yodel.
She usually wakes herself up and looks around as if to say what the hell was that but it doesn't seem to distress her at all.
We always say it's like she is dreaming she's lost us or she is so sad,but what do we know  :huh:

Could you try a DAP diffuser in the room she sleeps in,or could she sleep in with you? maybe not a possibility with the little'un  :-\

You could be describing Roxy word for word there. Comforting to know we're not the only ones!

When she stays with family she sleeps right next to there bed but she's been doing it even more and as you say, with Jasmine about I really can't have her upstairs with us. Luckily she doesn't often wake up and neither does my other half.

Will have a look at DAP diffusers.

Thank you for posting  :luv:
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: JaspersMum on March 18, 2012, 10:01:07 PM
Thundershirt and sleepytime tonic (both here if you want to try)
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: darcyboy on March 21, 2012, 05:43:24 PM
I dont know of any remedies I'm afraid but just to say my orange boy Darcy does the same thing. We are quite lucky as he only does it every now and again. One time I was watching tv and he started howling. It was weird to watch him as he was still asleep but howling his head off. Normally we have to wake him up to stop him. Silly boy.

 :D
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: LottieLu on March 21, 2012, 06:04:07 PM
Yes, Maisie does it too, but thankfully not that often. She does it occasionally through the day too when she sleeps. I can't say it ever appears to be attached to anything that's happening in her life at the time. She gives an incredibly loud, heartwrenching, bloodcurdling howl or two. If I'm around when she does it it's clear she doesn't even wake herself up doing it - which always amazes me considering the row she makes  :005:.

I'm so sorry to hear you are having it so often  :huh:
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: hollyd443 on March 30, 2012, 07:00:56 PM
Good to know we're not the only ones! I'm loosing so much sleep at the minute, she's doing it at least once every night.  :'(

I've ordered some PetSpec Calmer in - I've used it in the past with some success and thought I'd give it a whirl again!
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: MaggieR on March 30, 2012, 07:05:48 PM
Good to know we're not the only ones! I'm loosing so much sleep at the minute, she's doing it at least once every night.  :'(

I've ordered some PetSpec Calmer in - I've used it in the past with some success and thought I'd give it a whirl again!


 :bigarmhug:'s can imagine how it must be getting to you.... Maggie's done this twice, once when she was asleep downstairs and I was watching tv. The second time was earlier this week, middle of the night and she was asleep on my bed.... I damn near pooped myself  :005: ph34r Funny looking back at it - but can't imagine having it every nite  :-\
Hope the PetSpec helps  :luv:
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: JaspersMum on March 30, 2012, 08:36:47 PM
Good to know we're not the only ones! I'm loosing so much sleep at the minute, she's doing it at least once every night.  :'(

I've ordered some PetSpec Calmer in - I've used it in the past with some success and thought I'd give it a whirl again!


Hope it works this time for you, if you remember it was good for Lou
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: langcliffe on April 03, 2012, 09:59:25 PM
Bramble is another howler.. sometimes several nights on the trot, then nothing for ages. She sleeps downstairs, and we usually don't go down to her unless we know she hasn't perforemd her night time ablution before we go to bed. She dows it during the day too... very odd.
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: jayne 2008 on April 04, 2012, 01:01:19 PM
I am watching this post with interest as I have the same problem with Seth.  His howl builds up to a high pitch which then wakes him up.  He does this several times in the night, every night, and my neighbour tells me he does it during the morning when I am not there.  I worry about it, as I  work in the mornings and I will have to move house sometime in the future and I might not have such understanding neighbours
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: langcliffe on April 04, 2012, 09:46:39 PM
Are there any vets on the forum that might explain this... is it peculiar to Cockers?  Our springers certainly didn't do it.
Title: Re: Howling in the Night - Calmer Supplements?
Post by: hollyd443 on April 04, 2012, 10:22:43 PM
Interesting to know others are having the same problem and some with the same frequency. I can't remember the last time we had a night without her howling  :-\