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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: CockersIndie on April 19, 2012, 06:38:13 PM

Title: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: CockersIndie on April 19, 2012, 06:38:13 PM
when should a pup look like an adult dog? i think indie looks very puppyish still (and coat is still quite short) and im worried she might have something wrong with her? the vet didn't say anything when she had her 6 month check up the other day (she's 8 months tomorrow), but im a worrier!

(http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u483/kgolding89/8monthsjustabout7.jpg)

(http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u483/kgolding89/8monthsjustabout33-1.jpg)

does she look about right maturity wise? it's been so long since we had a puppy i can't remember!
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: supergirl on April 19, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
Don't worry I have a 3 year old black cocker that still looks like a puppy.
(http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo60/littlebudha/Lexilou/DSCF6745.jpg)
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: Poppsie on April 19, 2012, 06:52:49 PM
She looks like a gorgeous princess to me  :luv: :luv: she is just right ;) x x x
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: HelenS on April 19, 2012, 07:21:32 PM
She looks just right to me  :luv: and absolutely beautiful.
If I were ever to get another cocker BLACK would be my choice of colour.
Cupar is almost one and a half and people we meet out walking think hes still a pup  :huh:
I think cockers always look younger than they are  :blink:
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: CockersIndie on April 19, 2012, 07:32:45 PM
thanks, i went to the windsor gundog show yesterday to watch, and the the dogs in the 'puppy' class all looked so much older than indie- coat and face! so i started to worry, especially as i'd like to have a go at it myself. but as long as she looks ok to everyone, im happy!
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: LottieLu on April 19, 2012, 07:34:08 PM
Well she looks gorgeous  :luv: that's for sure.

Maisie didn't have half that coat at nine months. In fact she doesn't have a lot of coat now at over 2 years old. I think they all vary in that respect. Indie really is a beautiful girl  :luv:
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: HelenS on April 19, 2012, 07:34:54 PM
She`s  PERFECT  :luv:
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: KellyT on April 19, 2012, 08:36:24 PM
Hazel is 8 months soon, and she looks similar to Indie.

People don't believe that my eldest is 10, they think she's around 3 or 4, and prior to having most people thought she was a puppy and Jennie was the oldest!
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: Archie bean on April 19, 2012, 08:43:08 PM
She's adorable.  :luv: My last cocker never grew up! I was stopped in the street and asked if he was a puppy three days before he died aged 11. Archie is 8 months and people are always shocked at how young he is because he looks all growd up! They are all so different.
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: elaine.e on April 19, 2012, 09:49:29 PM
thanks, i went to the windsor gundog show yesterday to watch, and the the dogs in the 'puppy' class all looked so much older than indie- coat and face! so i started to worry, especially as i'd like to have a go at it myself. but as long as she looks ok to everyone, im happy!

The puppies you see in puppy classes tend to be those that are relatively mature for their age and whose adult coats are starting to come through. Experienced exhibitors will also be very good at making the most of their puppies in terms of presentation.

Indie looks beautiful in your photos and just as an 8 month puppy should look :luv:
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: karen488 on April 19, 2012, 10:43:24 PM
Took me a year to start to get Darcey's skirt looking like a skirt. Then she was spayed and they shaved it all off!!!  >:D wouldn't worry.
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: cangrejo on April 19, 2012, 11:05:43 PM
She looks perfectly gorgeous to me   :luv:
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: CockersIndie on April 19, 2012, 11:37:47 PM
thanks everyone, i feel reassured she's on the right track now :) I am hoping to show her though (just for a bit of fun)- will she be at a disadvantage if she looks younger than the other puppies?  :huh:
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: bajoleth on April 20, 2012, 07:25:15 AM
thanks everyone, i feel reassured she's on the right track now :) I am hoping to show her though (just for a bit of fun)- will she be at a disadvantage if she looks younger than the other puppies?  :huh:
No not at all, the judges are aware that puppies are obviously not the finished article and make allowances for the coat being at different stages in different dogs. She is black so she should get a good coat, blacks usually do  ;) You will just need patience and continue with the handstripping to get out the fluff and you can trim the areas that are okay to trim i.e feet featherings etc to try and get a tidy outline. But she looks very tidy already to be honest :luv:
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: JaspersMum on April 20, 2012, 07:39:04 AM
It also comes down to genetics of some lines that develop slower than others.

Charlie is also Lochranza and very similar to Indie, and it's taken till he's almost 3 to start looking mature in his body but his coat is still not as long as others in the ring.  He does also spend time running in the woods and common land which has a negative effect on coat as I'm sure we leave some behind every walk.

I'll try and find a picture where I virtually gave up thinking he'd look like a show dog and a few months later when he suddenly changed..
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: CockersIndie on April 20, 2012, 08:19:03 AM
Thanks bajoleth, phew! I am trying to teach myself to groom her , I've thinned her legs out in that bottom picture but need to get a handle on how much to handstrip etc, it's a learning curve!

And jaspersmum- thanks for the Lochranza input, I look forward to the photos!
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: JaspersMum on April 20, 2012, 08:35:11 AM
And jaspersmum- thanks for the Lochranza input, I look forward to the photos!

I'll probably be in trouble for that as not all the Lochranzas are immature and ours are of course mixed with other lines that could be the "slower" gene.  I think Charlie is a little younger here, but this was definately at the crying stage and his coat seemed to disintergrate before our eyes..  Indie has oudles by comparison.  Charlie seemed to turn into a scrawny rat for a while  ph34r
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i180/jaspersmum/Charlie/IMG_3025a.jpg

the second picture is now(ish), still less coat than many in the ring but actually, sometimes the judges prefer them to carry less  ;)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i180/jaspersmum/album3/Charlie-1stGCDcocker.jpg
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: dipsydoodlenoodle on April 20, 2012, 11:07:06 AM
Charlie is 8 months and sometimes he looks grown up, other times he looks like a puppy. He's beautiful either way  :luv:
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: CockersIndie on April 20, 2012, 11:17:58 AM
Jaspersmum- the first picture looks just about what indie looks like- although currently she's covered in heather and water so not quite as beautiful!

yeah i agree dipsydoodlenoodle- they are all gorgeous either way, and always! i was just shocked at how grown up they looked at the show in comparison so i thought- hmm maybe indie is ill. but feel very reassured now :)
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: cfordham2710 on April 21, 2012, 05:47:14 PM

She looks fine to me. 

People are always saying what a cute puppy Skye is.  Shes 8 this year........   :o
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: Jonnydog on April 21, 2012, 08:32:38 PM
I think Penny has suddenly started to look more grown up since she had her season.It's nothing I can put my finger on but she just seems more self-possessed. She's eleven months.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/dinaht/pennyontable.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/dinaht/pennyandhose.jpg)
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: CockersIndie on April 21, 2012, 08:48:41 PM
I think Penny has suddenly started to look more grown up since she had her season.It's nothing I can put my finger on but she just seems more self-possessed. She's eleven months.

Penny is gorgeous! what amazing eyes! I thought having a season might have an effect- our previous cocker didn't have a season and we were always asked if she was a pup right until up until we lost her! so thanks very much for that, indie's perfect to me but i was a little worried :)
Title: Re: when should a puppy look like a grown up?
Post by: Jonnydog on April 21, 2012, 09:07:44 PM
I think Indie looks lovely for eight months. It does seem to take a while for the coat to come in. Penny's coat went quite dull just before her season, but seemed to blossom afterwards and is now coming in nice and shiny. She still doesn't have much skirt, but that's an advantage as she seems to collect half the forest floor when she goes out!