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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: Jeanette on December 01, 2012, 06:48:12 PM

Title: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 01, 2012, 06:48:12 PM
Hi

Has anyone had this operation on their cocker and if so could you please let me know your experiences i.e. was it a quick recovery, did it stop the infections, how long it took to heal etc.

Thanks in advance  :003:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: elaine.e on December 01, 2012, 08:26:41 PM
My first Cocker had a little nip and tuck on one side after recurring infections. It was about 24 years ago, so I don't remember everything about it but I remember that it healed up quickly and he didn't have any further problems.
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 02, 2012, 10:12:59 PM
Thanks Elaine  :003:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Joules on December 03, 2012, 08:50:13 AM
Coco had the op earlier this year after months of persistent infections and a very stinky mouth. :020:

They used dissolving stitches and it healed up really well and pretty quickly.  It never stopped her eating  :005:  After a few months she was free of infection, it was all healed up and she was pong free - :banana: So, for us, it was a success as there has been no recurrence of lip fold infections so far.  :D
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 16, 2012, 09:16:18 PM
Thanks, he's going in on Thursday for the operation so hoping he heals quickly and it is a success.    :D
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: elaine.e on December 16, 2012, 11:04:41 PM
Hope it all goes well and solves the problem permanently :D
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Joules on December 17, 2012, 07:41:20 AM
Hope it all goes well and solves the problem permanently :D

Me too - sure it will be fine  ;)
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 18, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Just had an email from the vets to say the swab has come back as psuedomonas, not sure whether that means he will operate or not  :-\
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Joules on December 18, 2012, 06:41:22 PM
Just had an email from the vets to say the swab has come back as psuedomonas, not sure whether that means he will operate or not  :-\

They may still operate as those blurry things can be very resistant to anti-biotics  ;)
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 18, 2012, 06:45:52 PM
Just had an email from the vets to say the swab has come back as psuedomonas, not sure whether that means he will operate or not  :-\

They may still operate as those blurry things can be very resistant to anti-biotics  ;)

I know, Indie had it in her ear in August.   She had to have an ear flush and then drops twice a day, it took ages to go.     I hope they go ahead and do something, his skin is being destroyed and the folds getting deeper and deeper.
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: JennyBee on December 18, 2012, 08:20:06 PM
Sorry to hear it's pseudomonas :-\. Horrible stuff. Poor boy, fingers crossed the vet decides to go ahead, or at the very least it's not a resistant strain he has :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 20, 2012, 04:59:57 PM
They're just waking him up now and picking him up at 6.30PM.   The message from the vet was that the lip folds were really bad and he's hoping more surgery won't be required.    Not sure what to make of that.   My poor boy  :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: JaspersMum on December 20, 2012, 05:22:22 PM
They're just waking him up now and picking him up at 6.30PM.   The message from the vet was that the lip folds were really bad and he's hoping more surgery won't be required.    Not sure what to make of that.   My poor boy  :luv:

Hope that he has no further problems x
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Pop-Star on December 20, 2012, 05:29:51 PM
Poor Quinn  :luv:  Sending lots of healing thoughts, and :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: for you both.
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: sarahR on December 20, 2012, 05:39:08 PM
Get better soon Quinn. :bigarmhug:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: JennyBee on December 20, 2012, 05:47:34 PM
Hope he recovers quickly, Jeanette :luv: and no more surgery is required :bigarmhug:.

I was wondering, is Quinn seeing a specialist? It was the only thing that got Brodie's ears finally under control. His opinion was that pseudomonas does not attack a healthy system; with Brodie it may be underlying allergies (although I wonder if the pancreatitis could have anything to do with it), I will find out if he is going to do tests when we go back at the start of January.

Hopefully this op will have sorted things out, but if not then it is something to think about :bigarmhug:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Clover on December 20, 2012, 08:10:40 PM
Awww, poor Quinn,, hope he makes a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 20, 2012, 08:53:54 PM
Hope he recovers quickly, Jeanette :luv: and no more surgery is required :bigarmhug:.

I was wondering, is Quinn seeing a specialist? It was the only thing that got Brodie's ears finally under control. His opinion was that pseudomonas does not attack a healthy system; with Brodie it may be underlying allergies (although I wonder if the pancreatitis could have anything to do with it), I will find out if he is going to do tests when we go back at the start of January.

Hopefully this op will have sorted things out, but if not then it is something to think about :bigarmhug:

I've heard that it attacks dogs with a weak immune system too.    It was Indie who had them in her ears at the same time as Brodie.    Quinn has had skin infections since a puppy, he has had horrible lip folds for a long while however they went really bad in the last couple of months (just after his vaccinations coincidentally)
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 20, 2012, 09:17:16 PM
Thank you for all wishes.   His folds were very bad and he has had lots of skin removed, the worst case my vet has seen so hoping he feels slightly better tomorrow than he did tonight.    :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Bluebell on December 21, 2012, 07:06:58 AM
I hope that Quinn, and you, had a good night! :D Wishing him a speedy recovery, with no more  problems   :luv: :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: LottieLu on December 21, 2012, 07:41:19 AM
Poor little chap. Hoping that Quinn had a peaceful night. Fingers all crossed for a speedy recovery  :luv: :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: pipkoi on December 21, 2012, 08:46:05 AM
Hope Quinn is feeling a little better this morning & that you all managed a restful night.
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Max X 2 on December 21, 2012, 10:35:17 AM
How is your little man today?
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: JennyBee on December 21, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
Just checking in to see how Quinn is today xx
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 21, 2012, 04:41:47 PM
I think he is a bit better than yesterday, not doing much except for going for a wee and having his tea.    He did yawn earlier and to be honest that was a shock seeing his mouth and the stitches  :o  and he's got his bark back so no trouble opening his mouth whereas last night he wouldn't.    We had one peaceful day  :shades:

I've just giving him some metacam so hope that kicks in quickly as he was whining earlier so assuming that's because he is feeling the pain.       
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Ninasmum on December 21, 2012, 07:23:50 PM
Only just seen this Jeanette  :shades:
Poor Quinn  :'(  Wishing him a speedy recovery  :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Countrygirl on December 21, 2012, 08:26:52 PM
Poor Quinn, hope his mouth is all healed up very soon.
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: elaine.e on December 22, 2012, 10:26:32 AM
Poor Quinn, I hope he's feeling better today :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: LottieLu on December 22, 2012, 04:03:55 PM
Hoping Quinn is feeling a little better today  :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Toni-UK on December 22, 2012, 07:04:02 PM
Poor Quinn,i hope he had a comfortable night and is a little better today  :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on December 23, 2012, 05:49:09 PM
He seems a lot better in himself today, off to the vets tomorrow for his check up so will know more on how the wounds are doing.    I'm not really sure what to expect, his ears are a soppy mucky mess as he is constant drool/crappy stuff coming out and with wearing the cone his ears aren't drying out.   

I just hope he lets me sleep tonight.     The downside of small crates is he can't fit in it with the cone so he's a bit out of sorts not having his safety area.   
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on March 03, 2013, 05:09:14 PM
I know this was several months ago but didn't want to post too soon incase I tempted fate however Quinn's lipfold operation has been a success.   He had absolutely loads of his lip folds cut away due to the amount of infection/sores and touch wood his mouth is now fine.    :luv:

Here's his mouth two weeks after the operation minus all the hangy bottom folds

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc286/Jeanette999_photo/004-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: JennyBee on March 03, 2013, 05:16:53 PM
I am so pleased to read this, Jeanette :D. You must be very relieved that it's finally under control. He is looking great too - I'd never know he'd had anything done if I didn't know :luv:.
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on March 03, 2013, 05:23:45 PM
Thanks, he doesn't drop his water all over the kitchen floor now he doesn't have the big hangy flaps at the bottom  :005:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: sarahR on March 03, 2013, 05:34:59 PM
Quinn looks in good shape. Glad it all went well and he's completey over it.
How long did he have his lampshade on if you don't mind me asking? Ozzie is going in for her lipfold op on Tuesday so it was lovely to see a photo of Quinn.  :D
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on March 03, 2013, 05:50:50 PM
Quinn looks in good shape. Glad it all went well and he's completey over it.
How long did he have his lampshade on if you don't mind me asking? Ozzie is going in for her lipfold op on Tuesday so it was lovely to see a photo of Quinn.  :D

Unfortunately he had to have the cone on until his stitches were removed as he was trying to paw his mouth all the time and would have ripped the stitches.     Operation was on the 20th December and stitches out on the 3rd January, in hindsight I should have cut the length off his ears as there was quite a lot of leakage coming from his wounds so he ended up in a bit of a mess with the cone i.e. his ears.     I had to cut the length off once the cone was off completely.    

He had a blip during the recovery time when he was put on a different set of antibiotics along with his original course, these made him very poorly and he had to stay at the vets - once they put him on fluids and took him off the other set of tabs he was fine again.   This wasn't anything to do with the op - just a bad reaction to the tabs.    

Seeing as he's never had anything like  this done to him before, he was very very brave - he doesn't like being handled by strangers too much so it all went better than I thought.  :D

Hope Ozzie's operation goes well - it's such a relief once the infection/ulcers/gaggy smell has gone  :luv: :luv:  


ETA - Not sure if Ozzie sleeps in a crate but the only problems I had was the lack of sleep, Quinn is crated normally at night but he couldn't fit in his crate with the extra large cone he had to wear - I would have bought a bigger crate in advance if I'd thought about it.

Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Ninasmum on March 03, 2013, 05:55:21 PM
So pleased Quinn's op. has been a long term success  :shades: :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: sarahR on March 03, 2013, 06:05:38 PM
Thanks Jeanette that's really helpful information. I will give her ears a trim tonight. No she doesn't sleep in a crate she sleeps on our bed so that might be a problem as I should imagine its a bit difficult to jump up with a cone on. I will move her day bed upstairs at night so she can be comfy in that.
We just hope baby brother George doesn't  aggravate her to much as he is bouncy so and so.  :D
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Jeanette on March 03, 2013, 06:25:53 PM
Thanks Jeanette that's really helpful information. I will give her ears a trim tonight. No she doesn't sleep in a crate she sleeps on our bed so that might be a problem as I should imagine its a bit difficult to jump up with a cone on. I will move her day bed upstairs at night so she can be comfy in that.
We just hope baby brother George doesn't  aggravate her to much as he is bouncy so and so.  :D


The cone tends to keep them away, Indie ran round in circles trying to avoid getting whacked by it.    :005:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: ladylola on March 03, 2013, 07:24:53 PM
So pleased to see him looking so happy, he must feel great now without a sore mouth.
Looking good quinn.
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Countrygirl on March 03, 2013, 07:30:20 PM
So glad Quinn's mouth is all healthy again now.
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Bluebell on March 03, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
So glad Quinn's mouth is all healthy again now.
Me too  :D he's looking lovely  :luv:
Title: Re: Lip Fold Operation
Post by: Toni-UK on March 03, 2013, 09:12:12 PM
So glad Quinn's mouth is all healthy again now.
Me too  :D he's looking lovely  :luv:

He certainly is a handsome chap  :luv:

Looking at his lovely neat chops has made me realize just how baggy Rubys' folds are  :-\ touch wood we have had only one pongy incident that seemed to respond to hibi scrub.