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Offline martcle

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should she work
« on: August 12, 2008, 10:04:49 PM »
My girl is 4 mths old and when she first meets people can be quite shy but gets over it  quickly, I have a friend who has asked if he can take Poppy with him when he goes shooting.
My question is will it scare her to death or will it benifit her. And at what age can he take her and will she need training other than to come back which she is alraedy getting good at(most of the time). Goodness i know i sound thick but its not my thing but if its hers id like her to have a try, what do you think :huh:
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Re: should she work
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2008, 10:16:01 PM »
Regardless of whether it's an organised shoot or roughshooting any working dog needs to be introduced to gunshot and trained before they can work effectively and safely. If he wants her for hunting (flushing game) then at the very least she'll need to be trained to hunt and quarter in any cover, to stop to flush, to stop on the whistle and to drop to shot (lie down when she hears gunshot, this is vital for her own safety). If he wants her for retrieving/as a peg dog (labs are more often used for this though) then again at the very least she'll need to be taught to sit still for long periods while there is a lot of banging and activity going on around her and she'll need to find and retrieve both dead and live game to hand. Most spaniels now tend to be dual purpose, they hunt and retrieve, mine all do so they do all of the above.

Training is essential though, taking a young puppy, especially one with a nervous disposition out to a shoot and just suddenly exposing them to gunfire and all the activity there could scare them half to death and even if it doesn't they will have no idea what they're supposed to do and will undoubtedly be more of a hindrance than a help. Even if you are training your dog to work the worst thing you can do is to take them out shooting too soon, before their training is at a suitable standard; that's the best way to ruin the most promising young dog but unfortunately it happens a lot, people often get impatient with the training and take dogs out before they're really ready.
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Re: should she work
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2008, 10:27:22 PM »
Thanks for the advice. i will speek to my friend
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Re: should she work
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2008, 02:57:32 PM »
Heya,
she's too young to be taken out shooting at 4 months old.
At her age if you want her to become a shooting dog you should be focusing on playing retrieving games, practicing recall (with a whistle) and ideally taking her along to a local clay pidgeon shooting venue where you can play fun games etc... with her in a position where she can hear the shots from the clay pidgeon shooting (e.g: a field next to the clay shooting site) but is focused on you and having a lovely time playing (i.e not focusing on the sounds of the shots and getting worried about them). This is generally speaking how you instill the foundations for training up a very reliable, bomb proof gun dog  :blink:

If you decide to go down the gun dog training route then I would say that the earliest she might benefit from being taken out on a shooting trip would be when she's 18months old. However, I would stress that she should only be taken out on a shoot if her training has progressed well and that you feel she is ready for it.

I hope this helps  :D  My two working cockers absolutely adore going out on shoots and it keeps them really fit and mentally stimulated.

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Mary

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Re: should she work
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 01:44:45 AM »
Hi

I understand what you are saying, i have had cockers for 8 years now and they all work. The thing is every dog is different in its own way, she is still a baby just now so let her get used to all the sights and sounds you can. 
You have to work out the steps to take, taking her to clay shoots and hearing shots from a distance builds their confidence, but don't make a fuss when a shot goes off make it a normal.
I have 4 cockers and they are all different Shannon is a strong dog and loves to retrieve, Millie is shy but very keen to flush and retrieve, Chip is a mummy's boy goes with no one else but me and Gemma is 2 and still a baby and silly.
When you decide to let her go shooting for the first time i would go with your friend but keep a safe distance don't stand right next to the guns. And i would wait until she is older and got a little more confidence.
I hope this helps.  Enjoy your wee girl they are fun, i love watching my lot hunt and retrieve.
Kirsten