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Offline alanthedog

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following a scent when on a walk
« on: September 07, 2010, 04:55:57 PM »
Hi my cocker is 15 months old and is usually excellent when out walking, is always by my side, returns when called and is very polite, moving to one side when other pedestrians pass. Then last week I went away on holiday and left him with a dog sitter who has two other dogs. He settled very well and was well looked after.

Now when we go for a walk he is like a mad dog!! He seems to pick up on a scent and just keeps on running, failing to return even when called and I've nearly lost him on a couple of occasions. (We walk in the woods). I have tried to take treats out with me and keep calling him back for them but he just isn't interested. I am terrified of losing him.

Is this just a coincidence that I was on holiday last week or is it an age thing?

Any advice would be greatly received because I am exhausted from chasing him!!

Many thanks.

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Re: following a scent when on a walk
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 05:11:32 PM »
No advice but will be watching with interest as Freddie - 10.5 months - is the same except his recall has NEVER been brilliant. Now he is a teenager he ignores me if there is something better going on even though I have worked hard on recall and have been using a whistle - if there is a scent, I have no chance and, like your dog, he disappears for up to 5 minutes. So far he has come back... eventually! ph34r
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Re: following a scent when on a walk
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 05:32:18 PM »
It's a bit of an age thing but I'm surprised it hasn't happened before now :lol:. It's likely he's learnt this fantastic new sport from his holiday mates and can't get enough of it at the moment - kid in a candy shop.

It's no bad thing because to be honest, sooner or later he would have discovered his nose but you are going to have to work really hard on his recall now and also put that nose to work so he starts to use it in a controlled way (controlled by you)!

For recall don't call him when he's on a scent at the moment it's a waste of time, but practice where you know he's likely to come to start off with.. If you haven't got a whistle, you'd do well to get one as dogs hear them a lot more than voice when they're hunting and start to teach him to recall to the whistle (I use 3 pips for recall but decide what you want to do and then stick to it) and reward like mad with very high value treats (roast chicken is the ultimate here but he might be more motivated by a ball - work out what he really loves) every time he does a good, quick recall - this will get him into the habit and will help when there are more distractions. To get his nose focused on tasks for you rather than hunting for himself, you could get a gun dog dummy or even a tennis ball would do and start hiding it for him to find - do this at home and on walks...

There are loads of threads on recall and ways you can work on it, if he gets really bad you might consider a longline and harness for a while for example, so if you do some searches on here you'll get loads of info and probably quite a few happy ending stories to help keep you sane ;)

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Re: following a scent when on a walk
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 08:10:52 PM »
mia is 15 months and we have had the same over the last few days ::). we have gone back to basics with her training with lots of praise and treats and she was greatly improved today, thank goodness. I really do think they forget and just need a little reminder :luv:. You may think im mad but i hide in lots of places around the house blow the whistle three times and she comes to find me, then treat her. love doing this its great fun :banana:

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Re: following a scent when on a walk
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 08:23:07 PM »
Scenting can be reduced by giving him  an outlet for it. Ive been doing cheese sweeps on benches and bridges. Encourage him to sniff with a que and he'll start to focus on you more. The sniffing game is after all much better if there a tasty tip bit at the end.

I you start on a flat bit of grass, drop a treat when hes not looking. When he turns and looks at you point to the floor (so that his nose goes downward) and slowly move your hand towards the treat giving encouragement for following your hand. As he's sniffing add the qque "find it". After a few goes he'll start to realise that following your hand and the scent is much more profitable than the other scents knocking about that dont lead anywhere. Giving him a regular outlet may see the sniffing reduce at other times

Once hes mastered the flat hide treats higher up. So up walls, benchs and trees. Its a great game, provides huge about of mental stimulation. Try and make sure he follows your hand on where to search as you want him to be working with you as much as possible.

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Re: following a scent when on a walk
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 09:20:06 AM »
Well I'm out on my walk today armed with a bag of chicken - wish me luck !!  - probably have all the dogs in the woods following me home!

Thanks for the advice, it all makes sense so lets hope it works.


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Re: following a scent when on a walk
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2010, 09:58:23 AM »
Best of luck....scenting is ok if they return..........and our Labrador turns deaf too >:D

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Re: following a scent when on a walk
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2010, 10:14:33 AM »
Best of luck....scenting is ok if they return..........and our Labrador turns deaf too >:D

Thats why I like to training it. If you make it a game they will do it under your guidance and it will reduce the chances of them turning deaf to your calls as it encourages them to look for you for hints as to where to search next. Also focuses them to pick up scents your approve of (ie those they arent going to find in woods) over and above the other smells that are around as your scents are more rewarding to follow. The natural scents generally wont go anywhere whereas yours lead to cheese treats :005:


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Re: following a scent when on a walk
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2010, 10:24:02 AM »
Best of luck....scenting is ok if they return..........and our Labrador turns deaf too >:D

Thats why I like to training it. If you make it a game they will do it under your guidance and it will reduce the chances of them turning deaf to your calls as it encourages them to look for you for hints as to where to search next. Also focuses them to pick up scents your approve of (ie those they arent going to find in woods) over and above the other smells that are around as your scents are more rewarding to follow. The natural scents generally wont go anywhere whereas yours lead to cheese treats :005:



completely agree - teaching a dog to scent is a brilliant way to get them to focus on a walk out rather than random free hunting and clearing off ;)