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Offline rubyduby

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Feeding for Allergy
« on: January 08, 2020, 01:42:54 PM »
Hi my vet reckons my Cocker girl is poss allergic to something in her diet, so I am looking to try elimination diet, can anyone suggest (from experience) which is the best tinned hydrolyzed, anti allergen food to give her , I feel it is either poulty or beef so have found (for now) a tinned AVA with fish protein, I believe this make is PAH which doesnt fill me with confidence, hoefully this will however only be short term til we sort this. She is on Apoquel fr itching, , and if it doesnt sort itself shortly I will look for a Dermatolgical specialist, altho at the moment apart from a small dry patch and a scattered few spots she has no skin issues at all.....but she scratches the same areas all the time, and I have no evidence despite combing etc of fleas

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Re: Feeding for Allergy
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2020, 05:14:02 PM »
I feed my show cockers on the dried AVA from PaH. I use the white fish variety for sensitive skin etc and I supplement with sardines and coconut oil. Mine thrive on it and look wonderful!

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Re: Feeding for Allergy
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2020, 08:39:40 PM »
Have you considered getting her allergy tested? Itís much easier than trying to eliminate things randomly. I had Archie tested and then put him on an exclusion diet based on the results. I put him on a strict salmon and potato only diet which totally worked. I used fishmongers finest wet trays from pets at home. I made salmon and potato biscuits myself for treats plus he had the occasional salmon skin chew. He can have other fish now (trout and white fish) and I no longer make the biscuits as his favourite milky bones are totally fine.

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Re: Feeding for Allergy
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2020, 11:49:28 AM »
Yes I would like her allergy tested, but when i saw the vet this wasnt even offered, wasnt sure what was involved would i need to see a dogDermatologist? I am strugging with my girls diet as she isnt keen on any at the moment, and I think prefers raw or kibble,  but I am not to happy wth Kibble as I know how it is made..sooo

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Re: Feeding for Allergy
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2020, 03:16:36 PM »
I would suggest that you take the raw route as you have mentioned that your girl does like this.

We have 7 cockers that always been fed on a raw diet and none have had any issues with allergies, mouth/teeth disorders or tummy upsets.
Appetites are always good.
We have used raw since as far back as the 1980s.
Raw is so easy to feed and introduce without upsets. The product is in its most natural state, and has none of it's natural benefits altered or destroyed by the processing methods used in our modern and convenient dry ready foods/kibbles.
Grains / corn are causing a lot of allergy issues with some of our pets. Unfortunately, our vet's are not nutritionists

Failing the raw, you have also suggested kibble for your girl. I would suggest a completely grain free product which would include no RICE (this is a grain too). Don't over feed the grain free product it can be very rich and cause tummy upsets.   PHEW!



1/2lb of raw product is what our lot get each, this can always be adjusted up or down depending on body condition.
 

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Re: Feeding for Allergy
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2020, 04:30:16 PM »
The allergy test is a simple blood test, I would push your vet for it. If you have a dog who is allergic to specific protein it doesnít matter if it is raw or not so, as I say, changing foods randomly is just stabbing in the dark.
Archie was reactive to almost all meat proteins - hence he is now on a fish diet. However his most reactive ingredients were soya and peas. These are really common additives in loads of foods and treats so knowing to avoid them has made a massive difference. His problem wasnít just itchiness - he suffered from colitis and has a really sensitive tum. Itch wise he still has some issues with certain grasses in the summer but at least I know what it is and we have methods to keep things under control.

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Re: Feeding for Allergy
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2020, 10:59:13 AM »
I called the vet, but sadly only got the receptionist, I pressed her to check with the vet , to see if there was a blood test for 'other allergies' as I was sure there wasnt one for diet allergy, however she got the wrong tale and asked him if there was a blood test for food allergies, which he said not....so now will have to get back to him , ....!!! duhhhhh

I am really struggling with Amber as she doesnt like the fish food she is currently on, neither wet or dry , so dont know what to do ...cant see the vet till next Friday

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Re: Feeding for Allergy
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2020, 11:28:56 AM »
Iím not sure you can get separate tests. Archieís covered everything - food and environment. It was this one. https://spectrum.vet/for-pet-parents/allergy-testing/

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Re: Feeding for Allergy
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2020, 11:52:22 AM »
I dont see any clinics in the UK??

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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2020, 08:20:09 PM »
I would ask your vet. Iím in the Uk so obviously itís offered here. Iím sure your vet will be able to find out about it.

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Re: Feeding for Allergy
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2020, 01:15:17 PM »
My vet didnt seem interested r have a clue where to go, so I asked for a referral to a Dermatology specialist, hope they have more idea

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2020, 08:46:36 PM »
Maybe this will help your vet. This is the UK website. http://www.cvcgroup.co.uk/products/spot-allergy-service.html

There is a form there so presumably he/she can use that and send a blood test. To be honest Iím really surprised they werenít able to find all this information out on your behalf. It doesnít sound like they are that interested in helping you, so I really hope you manage to find someone who will.