Thanks everyone, you're all so fab

I guess to a certain extent, correct training techniques will always be subject to opinion but what I SERIOUSLY object to, is other people who have decided on techniques that are possibly a bit controversial feeling they can administer them in such a way that someone else's dog will also be subjected to it. My puppy got attacked by another dog, was mildly injured, had air sprayed in his face and heard a lot of shouting... all because this lady decided it was an ideal training opportunity for HER dog rather than grabbing her dogs collar and removing him...

and THAT is the bit that SERIOUSLY p***es me off.
Thanks Tasha, I wasn't there so I don't know how Storm reacted but Ex said she wasn't actually near by when it happened (probably off mousing somewhere

) but I'm quite glad as I don't think it would have helped if she had got involved, poor Dave could have ended up underneath a big lab and weimaraner having a punch up and probably ended up very flat!
Hannah, I'm so sorry to hear about poor Dave's experience; hopefully if he's a fairly laid-back character he'll bounce back with no ill-effects.
If you feel that he may have developed an aversion to black labs pm me as I don't live that far away from you & perhaps Dave could meet Spike & recover his confidence that way. 
Many thanks, Joelf we should get together for a walk anyway! There is talk of a COL meet in Peaslake at the end of November so you should come to that too!
Thanks again everyone
Hannah x