when kizzy was about 4 she had to be knocked out to have ears cleaned and vet was going to remove small warty lump from her back , well he forgot ! anyway his assistant said never mind he can whip it off while shes awake ,i said wont that hurt, "oh they dont feel pain like us " she said, i said well if i stick a needle in her then in you i bet you will both yelp in pain, it didnt go down very well but i was so angry she wasnt there for very long