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Offline Manster62

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Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« on: February 04, 2012, 02:44:02 PM »
Hi,
My 30 year old niece recently welcomed a beautiful 3 year old cocker into her life after many years of wanting one and realising that the time was right.
Before taking him on she had been told that he had some issues with other male dogs - so knew what she was getting into and was prepared. However, he seems fine with other dogs - male or female - but has grown so attached to her so quickly that he barks and howls constantly if he isn't with her - even if other people are there with him.
This is causing major problems as she lives in a shared house with some people who work shifts. She had thought that this was an ideal situation, as George would very rarely be left on his own. However, the housemates are getting increasingly frustrated and annoyed that George will not settle when Aimee is out.
Aimee doesn't want to have to give  George up, particularly as she is aware that this will not do anything for George's problems, but she really needs advice as to how to solve this issue.
She is doing some training with him, leaving him for short periods to try to reassure him that she will come back, but so far nothing is helping.
She has been quoted £175 for one introductory session with a behaviourist, but at present cannot afford to go down this route.
Any ideas would be gratefully received and I will pass them on to her.
Dylan - b: January 2010  and  Daisy - b: March 2011
RIP Meggie - b: February 1997  - d: December 2009

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Re: Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 06:34:58 PM »
We welcomed home a rescue ourselves back in August, and found he also suffered from some separation anxiety when we were out (specifically barking and howling). My first recommendation would be that she should get a crate for him, if she doesn't already have one. Something we found really useful as well was to get our boy to spend time in his crate alone (we leave a cover over it) while we are in the house. That way he could get used to not being right next to us all the time.

Desensitisation exercises are also really useful (if you search for it you'll find loads of previous threads on the subject). Basically, what it does is get the dog to stop associating your leaving routine (putting coat on, getting keys etc.) with you actually leaving. So this involves repeatedly putting on your coat, gathering your things etc. but not leaving the house. Sometimes we'll do this and then sit in them while we have a cup of tea before taking them off, other times we'll put them on and then immediately take them off, etc. Other exercises include varying the length of time you leave the house. So for example to start off, she might go through her leaving routine then go outside the house, lock the doors etc. only to come straight back in. With a dog that has separation anxiety it might take quite a while to build up to being able to leave the house for any amount of time.

Our boy went from spending all his time outside in a kennel to being inside with two humans at all times. Although he loved every second of it straight away, it was very confusing for him. I can only imagine that everytime we left he would be afraid that we would never come back and therefore howl/bark in order to get us to come back. It's taken a lot of time and patience, lwe've had him for 6 months now and only just are we able to leave him for 2 hours at a time without any problems. However, it's differnt for every dog, and the amount of time it takes to help them overcome their separation anxiety is different for each dog.

You might recommend the COL forum to your friend, as I said there is a wealth of information on here regarding separation anxiety and all the other antics that cockers can get up to. Also it's a great source of encouragement and advice for those really frustrating times when it feels like you've done everything you can and nothing has worked. I wish your neice the best of luck with her new cocker. I can't tell you how rewarding it is to take on a rescue and see how much they flourish in so little time!

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Re: Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 08:40:18 AM »
When Toby was first with us it was like having a toddler crying in cot. We did exactly the same as we did then.

Left for 5 mins (waited outside) and returned. On return not major major "omg how lovely to see you" but pleased to see you behaviur from us.

Then 6 mins, 7 mins etc etc.

Very hard if others in house and pup is howling but I hope she and George have a long and happy relationship together.

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Re: Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 10:35:26 AM »
Hi, there is an article in the Feb edition of Dogs Today about a dog with separation anxiety and how it was dealt with, successfully. Perhaps worth your niece having a read for some possible ideas.
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Re: Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 05:47:39 PM »
Hi
At the risk of jinxing this lol we had the same problem with Kona when we left him, even i we were still in the house but in a different room.

We did two things which seem to have alleviated the problem .

I had to stop fussing Kona so much ( there was a lot of cuddling going on and i didnt realise i was making him think he was the pack leader and so he was howling for me to come back to him/his pack)

Secondly what ever I have worn that day (or night ) i put in Kona's crate with him (a tip off a friend). He seems to be able to relax lying on it. Even if he's in the kitchen i put somehting on the floor. He never chews any of the clothes.

Everyone is happy!

Hope this helps x

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Re: Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 06:29:09 PM »
Hi all,
Thanks for the responses. My niece is trying many of your techniques, but is still having problems. She knows that time is the enemy here and if she had time to train him every day rather than having to go to work, she feels that she might make more progress. Unfortunately, her house mates are losing patience. My niece rang me in tears last night as she fears she may have to give him up, but knows that this is really the last thing she wants both for George and herself.
Hoping she can turn things around - it will be so upsetting if she has to give him up as he is such a beautiful boy.
Dylan - b: January 2010  and  Daisy - b: March 2011
RIP Meggie - b: February 1997  - d: December 2009

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Re: Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 02:15:59 PM »
Has she tried any remedies type stuff? DAP diffuser? Herbs? Bach Flower Remedies? Certain food supplements? It could help him to settle and start getting used to being alone or at least learn better to be alone.
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Re: Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 02:26:10 PM »


I had to stop fussing Kona so much ( there was a lot of cuddling going on and i didnt realise i was making him think he was the pack leader and so he was howling for me to come back to him/his pack)

Not sure this is entirely true as the 'pack theory' has been well and truly debunked...

I know time is of the essence but your niece needs to take her time with this and everyone has to be on board - here's an old thread which has some helpful advice

http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=48337.0

and another one

http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=78442.0
helen & jarvis x


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Re: Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 02:35:14 PM »
Has she tried any remedies type stuff? DAP diffuser? Herbs? Bach Flower Remedies? Certain food supplements? It could help him to settle and start getting used to being alone or at least learn better to be alone.

Hi LurcherGirl - yes, I believe that she has been using a DAP diffuser for the past week or so - unfortunately it hasn't seemed to help at all. Not sure about the Bach Flower remedies etc., I'll ask her.
Dylan - b: January 2010  and  Daisy - b: March 2011
RIP Meggie - b: February 1997  - d: December 2009

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Re: Separation anxiety - barking and howling
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 11:23:33 AM »
We rehomed Albert last year and had the same problem.  We paid a behaviourist and was basically told to do what fr1day said, keep leaving him and building up the time.  Also put your coat and shoes on etc then take them off - basically to desensitise him.  One thing I would mention is that when you start to leave a dog on his/her own (even if for a couple of minutes) don't go back to him when he is crying or barking - wait for even a couple of seconds of silence as he/she will learn that you only go back if he is being quiet. 

Unfortunately all of that sounds easier than it is and it does take some time for the problem to go away.  I would say that Albert still has slight separation anxiety even now, and we rehomed him almost a year and half ago, but he's a lot better than he used to be