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Offline Jane57

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2012, 09:11:38 AM »
Riley had his first injection at 9 weeks and 4 days and his second one at 11 weeks and 5 days. Purely as the day before was a bank holiday.
The vet advised us to wait two weeks after the second one before taking him out. We took him out on day 13.


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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2012, 09:38:49 AM »
Harry had his first injection before we even got him home (8 weeks) then another 2 weeks for the second, then he went straight out.

But yes it's very confusing, I keep saying it, but use common sense

But what is common sense in this case??  :huh:

Our breeder actually said that other dogs in the house shouldn't be taken out until the puppy had completed the vaccs course. She also said that the puppy shouldn't be touched by anyone other than staff when taken to the vet for jabs.

I'm not sure anyone can unexpected to have inate common sense on this - I for one have no idea how common these illnesses are.



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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2012, 10:06:22 AM »
Harry had his first injection before we even got him home (8 weeks) then another 2 weeks for the second, then he went straight out.

But yes it's very confusing, I keep saying it, but use common sense

But what is common sense in this case??  :huh:

Our breeder actually said that other dogs in the house shouldn't be taken out until the puppy had completed the vaccs course. She also said that the puppy shouldn't be touched by anyone other than staff when taken to the vet for jabs.

I'm not sure anyone can unexpected to have inate common sense on this - I for one have no idea how common these illnesses are.



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I am well aware of what common sense is, thank you!  >:D

However, I don't think it applies in this case - you NEED some specialist knowledge to decide what the risks are when considering when to take you newly-vaccinated puppy out.
Common sense tells me my dog needs vaccinating - it does NOT tell me how soon  those vaccines work or the risks involved in the interim...hence the variety of replies to the original question.

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2012, 10:37:55 AM »


What's the opnion on how long you have to wait after 2nd jabs before going out?

Well why ask for opinion, when you've just stated you "NEED specialist knowledge"

To my knowledge I've never known any vets to trend these boards.

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2012, 11:03:45 AM »
Vaccines differ. It's very annoying  ph34r

They shouldn't though, as all vaccines are the same just with different company labels on, recently had this argument over Bumbles second injection, all local vets wanted to do the full course again as the breeder did the first.  Had it in writing from Nobivac, Vanguard and Virbac. Vets phoned the companies and were told the same, so they did it without questioning.

I had this reply from Virbac

Hi Sharon
 

I can hereby guarantee absolutely that Canigen dog vaccine is exactly the same as Nobivac - just a different label. If you have any trouble in this regard please ask your consulting vet to contact us at 01359 243243.

Best regards

Chris Taylor BVSc MRCVS
Technical Director, Virbac Limited
Tel: 01359 243 243
Fax: 01359 243 200

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2012, 11:11:31 AM »


What's the opnion on how long you have to wait after 2nd jabs before going out?

Well why ask for opinion, when you've just stated you "NEED specialist knowledge"

To my knowledge I've never known any vets to trend these boards.

Why post any questions on here at all, if common sense is all you need??

The answer regarding antibodies was specialist knowledge - it actually tells me how and why vaccines work.
Of course I'll take the advice of my vet ultimately, since he's the person giving the vaccs - but there are plenty of breeders on here with specialist knowledge and also plenty of people with first- hand experience and anecdotal evidence.

 

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2012, 11:35:03 AM »
We got Bella at 8weeks she was our first puppy so did everything by the book, 1st jab first vet visit, 2nd jab 2 weeks later then walkers I think 2 weeks after that.

Got Molly at 11ish weeks, same with the jabs, difference being she came everywhere with us met and greeted everyone, we had bellas doggie friends come to our house etc.
We even took Molly on the beach as it was tidal for little walks

I'm not saying this was the right thing to do but I feel Molly is a better dog for the better socialisation I did.



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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2012, 10:29:23 AM »
I took Molly to the vets for her 2nd jab on Friday when she was just 10 weeks old.  The breeder had said we could take her out about 5 days after second injection but when I asked the vet for her opinion, she said that was too soon and to wait 2 weeks and to take her out to places where there were few dogs for her first few outings.  And this is what I am going to do - I'd rather be safe than sorry even though it's frustrating, although I may end up taking her out at 13 days!  I do agree with the others, the guidelines you get can be very confusing!

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2012, 12:06:16 PM »
Our vet said 14 days after second jab officially, but if we wanted to take them out before if we took them to remote places away from heavy dog-walking areas (canals, parks) we should be fine.  We took both dogs up onto the moors, off the beaten track a couple of days after their second injections.  I must stress that these were not popular walks as some hill walks can be, ie not the Pennine Way etc.  We saw no other dogs.  We did also take them out in our arms into town for socialisation, getting used to other people and traffic noise etc.  With Barney it was literally in our arms.  For Pippa we got a puppy sling so she could accompany us when we took Barney out.

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2012, 12:23:38 PM »
A puppy sling sounds good!  I haven't taken Molly into town yet but she has been in the car several times in a travelling crate which she seems quite happy with and she has met a few people while being carried.  I do think you have to be careful as lots of dogs aren't vaccinated or don't have their vaccines topped up correctly (advice from our new vet) and to initially take them out to places that aren't heavily dog walked seems very sound advice.

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2012, 12:28:01 PM »
My parents dog was vaccinated at 8 weeks and then 10 weeks.

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2012, 12:55:55 PM »
Ozzy came to us at 11 weeks, unvaccinated (the breeder said that it wasn't necessary before 15 weeks because he still had his Mum's immunity)  Needless to say we had his jabs started a week after we brought him home (on the advice of the vet who said it was always better to wait a week after getting them home, as if they developed an illness it was difficult to know whether they had brought it with them from the breeder, or if it was something to do with the jab).  His second jab was 3 weeks later, at 15 weeks, on a Monday, and the vet said we could take him out 'at the end of the week'.  We took him for his first walk on the Friday.  On the Sunday he developed colitis and we took him to our vets practice who are open 7 days a week, and saw a different vet.  He said that as he'd only had his jab a week ago we should still have been carrying him and not let him walk!  So, it just goes to show that even vets in the same practice have different views on how long after the second jab they should be allowed out. However, we did wonder if the colitis was caused by him being allowed out too soon, but we'll never know!!

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2012, 04:54:52 PM »
I think the problem is that if they have had their first jab when you get them, the breeder will give the advice given by their vet. This may not necessarily be the same as the advice of your own vet, as we can see they vary! I think that it is ultimately your own vet who will look after your pup, so best go with their advice! That said, I do agree with carrying them to get them out and about and used to traffic noises etc
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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2012, 07:12:40 PM »
My vet's advice loast week was wait exactly a wek after the 2nd jab...so Teddy's W-Day (walk day) is tomorrow!! :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Nooooooooooooo!!
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2012, 07:25:21 PM »
My vet's advice loast week was wait exactly a wek after the 2nd jab...so Teddy's W-Day (walk day) is tomorrow!! :D :D :D :D :D

Woo hoo! Enjoy!
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