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Offline Magic Star

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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2004, 06:43:46 PM »
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I personally think that she got more than she bargained getting a cocker pup at this stage in the 1st place while she was pregnant. I do think some people think that puppy rearing is easy and then hormones kick in and dog gets worse than they bargained. Also not everyone does their breed research and see cute cocker must be lapdog (and yes I've heard it so so often and its not an isolated problem).

I also agree that not all advertisers are honest about the dog or the circumstances of rehoming.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2004, 06:58:21 PM »
For my two penneth worth, I feel the original owners reason for parting with this puppy are rather dubious. She knew that she would return to work when she bought the pup, now she is looking for a new home :blink: for him WHY??

To me it sounds like she cannot cope with him, maybe he's got problems she can't handle, maybe with having a baby and going back to work it's to much, whatever happens I hope he gets the home he deserves.



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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2004, 07:02:49 PM »
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At first sight it may look like this is irresponsible, but we really shouldn't judge unless we know the full facts. The poor owner may never have planned on going back to work, but her family circumstances may have changed..and surely it is more responsible to rehome the dog than leave it home alone for hours on end? She may well be heartbroken having to part with her dog, and leave her new baby all at the same time :(
I agreed with this to some extent, Rachel.  But why not just find a loving home for the pup.  Why ask for money?  

As far as I know, if a dog is returned to a reputable breeder, for whatever reason, that person will not be given their money back - I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong  <_< .  So why do these people think that they have the right to ask for money, when in fact this puppy from a farm is much more likely to have problems (temperament or health) than one from a reputable breeder  :( .

I really hope this pup gets a good home where someone can care for him and deal with any issues he might have :) .
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2004, 07:13:36 PM »
I would go and see the dog with the children and see how the dog reacts to them. The last thing you want is a dog with an unstable temperament around your children, but at six months hopefully he should be okay..it depends on how well socialised he has been though.

Don't go and see the dog ti get him. Go to SEE him. Take someone else with you if you think you will let your heart rule your head.

As the others say, you have to be very committed. I took Toby on at six months, and he hadn't really received much training so it took a while to train him here, and he was quite a dominant dog when he first arrived.

Let us know how it goes. Whereabouts is the dog at the moment?

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2004, 07:15:28 PM »
Poor boy!!   :(  i can't believe how irresponsible these people are.  The poor boy hasn't even had his full vaccinations.  :angry:
I hope he gets a loving and forever home, its so sad when a young pup is just sold on like this.  :(  
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2004, 07:26:52 PM »
I'd go and see him as Padfoot has said, and dont make any on the spot decisions, dont feel bad about coming home without this poor boy, it's a hard decision and you have to be sure that it's the right one for you so take the time to think first as these cockers have such pleading eyes one look and it will be so hard to say no! :blink:

Be prepared for hard work as it sounds as if you are going to have to go right back to basics with him, but given commitment, love and time I'm sure that if you take this young man on he will be a lovely cocker and the present owners loss and your gain ;)  
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2004, 09:05:40 PM »
When we were lookin for a cocker pup we saw an advert and went to see a girl that was 5 1/2 months and I Knew I would be brinigng her home,  :lol:  it worked out for us, but was very hard work with the toilet training, Jessie had no idea of right or wrong so it was back to basics.  She is not from good breeding, however I knew she was just a pet and therefore I had her speyed after her first season.  That was all a year or so ago now and we haven't looked back.

It is so hard to stop ourselves from going to see them, but I would be realistic, the likelyhood is you'll come home with him  :)

I would say that you would be in for a rough ride teaching him where to go to toilet, Jessie took a while, and then she got to a year (teenager) and thought she was a pup again luckily for me only briefly. :D

good luck in whatever you decide..  :)  

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2004, 09:17:44 PM »
If you decide to take this lad, you have to go into it with yours eyes wide open.  Several things to bear in mind:

1. Dogs R Us are a pet retailer which usually means that the pups come from puppy farms.  Puppy farm dogs tend to have (but not always) more ailments and medical problems which may be develop later on in life, due to poor breeding.  The 'papers' are most likely useless bits of paper.

2. A 6 mo untrained dog might be far worse than a puppy - particularly if he has not been properly socialised around humans and other dogs.  He may, for example, not have been taught not to use his teeth on humans and still be 'puppy biting' but with very sharp teeth.  You are likely to have to go back to basics with toileting, basic training, socialisation, etc.  If he is untrained, he will be entering his 'terrible teens' stage without the foundation of good training.

3. Lots of people tell the biggest whoppers when they are rehoming their dog.  However nice the people may seem when you go to see them, don't base your decision on anything they say, but on your own views on the dog and the worse case you think you can cope with.  Also the dog may be on his 'best behaviour' -  i.e. they have just taken him for a walk to wear him out, just fed him, etc.

Very good luck with whatever you decide and I really hope the lad finds a good home - with you, hopefully, but for your sake, only if you are prepared for the difficult issues.  

 

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2004, 09:21:50 PM »
Rachel just to say that I was looking at the whole picture.. I wasn't condemning the woman for going back to work after maternity leave and I would never judge anyone although I might have made it sound like that ;) It's true there are genuine people out there who do find it hard to contend with babies and puppies or for whatever reason.. but I just felt that this woman in question wasn't as genuine as she made out. I felt annoyed because the puppy hadn't had his full vaccinations and it didn't sound as if the pups owners were being truthful about where they got the pup from
Anyway like the others have said the most important thing is that the pup will find the loving and caring home that he deserves
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2004, 09:35:02 PM »
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When we were lookin for a cocker pup we saw an advert and went to see a girl that was 5 1/2 months and I Knew I would be brinigng her home,  :lol:  it worked out for us, but was very hard work with the toilet training, Jessie had no idea of right or wrong so it was back to basics.  She is not from good breeding, however I knew she was just a pet and therefore I had her speyed after her first season.  That was all a year or so ago now and we haven't looked back.

It is so hard to stop ourselves from going to see them, but I would be realistic, the likelyhood is you'll come home with him  :)

I would say that you would be in for a rough ride teaching him where to go to toilet, Jessie took a while, and then she got to a year (teenager) and thought she was a pup again luckily for me only briefly. :D

good luck in whatever you decide..  :)
Where you been hiding, Lynsey  :)   Any recent pics of Jessie???  Another black and tan to admire in the gallery would go down a treat  :D  
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2004, 09:41:58 PM »
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When we were lookin for a cocker pup we saw an advert and went to see a girl that was 5 1/2 months and I Knew I would be brinigng her home,  :lol:  it worked out for us, but was very hard work with the toilet training, Jessie had no idea of right or wrong so it was back to basics.  She is not from good breeding, however I knew she was just a pet and therefore I had her speyed after her first season.  That was all a year or so ago now and we haven't looked back.

It is so hard to stop ourselves from going to see them, but I would be realistic, the likelyhood is you'll come home with him  :)

I would say that you would be in for a rough ride teaching him where to go to toilet, Jessie took a while, and then she got to a year (teenager) and thought she was a pup again luckily for me only briefly. :D

good luck in whatever you decide..  :)
Where you been hiding, Lynsey  :)   Any recent pics of Jessie???  Another black and tan to admire in the gallery would go down a treat  :D
let me buy a new camera and I will certainly put one there, she would be proud to be on display in more ways than one.  ;)   been offline a while Shirley, back now  ;)  

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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2004, 09:50:58 PM »
I think this is a difficult call. If you have time to re-train the pup, and when you visit he gets on with children and has a good temprement, then i would consider him.

Jazz is now coming up to 9 months and I am still training her to do certain things, and at 6 months, we were training her with loads of stuff, and she didn't actual go to her first puppy training  until a week before she was 6 months, and came on bounds by the end fo the 6 week course.

If you are serious, why don't you go along to her vet, and get a full check up.

I think you should visit, and make a decision on what you see/find. She how the little lad ineracts with the current owners, and see how she lives. You can gain alot form visiting.

This is just what I would do. However you will have to be strong enough to walk away if its not right for you. To make this easier, you could take some numbers of some rescue centres to give to the lady, incase she can't rehome her pup that way. It may make you feel better walking away, if you have to.

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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2004, 09:53:17 PM »
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I agreed with this to some extent, Rachel.  But why not just find a loving home for the pup.  Why ask for money?  

As far as I know, if a dog is returned to a reputable breeder, for whatever reason, that person will not be given their money back - I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong  <_< .  So why do these people think that they have the right to ask for money, when in fact this puppy from a farm is much more likely to have problems (temperament or health) than one from a reputable breeder  :( .
 
I know my breeder gives peoples money back. But I agree with you about why not just rehome through a good rescue instead for nothing.

Sadly some of us have become very cynical about dog rescue as we dip around the edges of it
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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2004, 10:01:13 PM »
I just thought I would add here that I willingly paid £170 for Jessie at 5.5 months as it was plain that the lady was marketing her to breed (as she was black and tan) I knew that her breeding wasn't great by looking at her, shes too tall.  I didn't want her falling into the wrong hands,  I paid the money and took her home, it was the best money I have ever spent

I know full well shes got a forever home here and she will want for nothing...  however it does rattle me that people try to gain money back for a pup/dog  how uncaring is that?  Jessies previous owner actually took the money and said "I will buy myself another birthday present now"  I got her out and into my arms as fast as I could, choking back tears at her uncaring nature.

It was obvious from my conversation with her that she knew only too well that rescues were there to help...but she wanted money plain and simple.  :angry:

Again like I said Good luck in whatever you decide, only you can make that decision.  :)  

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2004, 10:17:04 PM »
Firstly Hi Lynsey !!!!!!

Secondly......... there is no harm in going and having a look at him and seeing what he is like, as Kelly (Padffot) has said, if at all possible take the children with you and see what he is like with them.

Being the owner of two cockers, both from dubious backgrounds, with no papers whatsoever or background with my youngest, i can honestly say that he probably will come with issues if he hasnt been looked after or trained properly BUT if you have the time and the love, you can overcome these. It is hard work, gosh i should know after getting Charlie  :blink:  But they do make really loving boys in the end.

And Beano had his 1yr check at my vets the other day and he passed with flying colours, you can end up with a dog with health problems and then again they might be mighty fine and fighting fit.

Only you will know what to do on seeing him and i wish you all the luck in the world. All cockers deserve loving homes no matter where they have originated from !!! Lynsey, me,Cinderes, and Padfoot all have rescues to name but a few !!! :D