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Title: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Patp on September 24, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
Just picked Jinley up from the groomers (her usual one was in a pet shop that has gone out of business).  After telling them, I dont want her ears shaved on the outside (which she said before I left Jinley there they usually do) and I want feathers on her legs.  They have followed none of that, also they have shaved her head  >:D >:D

After being hand stripped for the past 18 months to say the least I AM NOT HAPPY!

The trouble is I dont want to go back to them to put it right because I cant see what they can do now to make it look better.  Strangely they have left her body (thankfully) but also her body feathers so now she looks totally out of proportion.

Thankfully I had her groomed 2 weeks before our holiday to Cornwall so hopefully it will have grown back a little.

Rant over!!
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: ATB on September 24, 2013, 12:21:10 PM
Aw poor Jinley, I'm sure she still looks beautiful though  :luv:. More annoying that they didn't listen to you! Not a lot you can do I suppose but go elsewhere next time!

My dog sitter does grooming too and I asked if she'd do P's head and ears. She also did her leg feathering which I didn't want, it was lovely, but now has been chopped straight down and looks silly!!
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: dipsydoodlenoodle on September 24, 2013, 12:28:24 PM
I'm sure Miss Jinley won't mind...HOWEVER  >:D when you have asked for a specific cut/style they should do it or say something in advance.

You could look to see if there are any breeders locally and maybe message them and ask if they can recommend anyone?

I decided to trim Charlie myself when I took him to the groomers and he basically clung to my leg; I didn't want to put him through that each time. One year on, I'm quite happy with what I can do - it's expensive to start up; however, I'm happy that he's not stressed out each time he gets a trim. My first few attempts weren't great, but after his latest trim I'm very proud of myself. You could always take on her hair cuts yourself?

Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Emilyoliver on September 24, 2013, 12:31:47 PM

I decided to trim Charlie myself when I took him to the groomers and he basically clung to my leg; I didn't want to put him through that each time. One year on, I'm quite happy with what I can do - it's expensive to start up; however, I'm happy that he's not stressed out each time he gets a trim. My first few attempts weren't great, but after his latest trim I'm very proud of myself. You could always take on her hair cuts yourself?


I second this - it's very rewarding. Dogs love it, and can keep them tidy on ongoing basis.
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: black taz on September 24, 2013, 12:43:54 PM
I know just how you feel. Fortunately i have now found a fantastic groomer who does exactly what i ask for and Taz just loves her.  She even baths him first and her rates are a lot less than the groomer who completely ignored everything i said.  So there are good groomers out there, you just need a recommendation.
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: dipsydoodlenoodle on September 24, 2013, 12:53:24 PM

I decided to trim Charlie myself when I took him to the groomers and he basically clung to my leg; I didn't want to put him through that each time. One year on, I'm quite happy with what I can do - it's expensive to start up; however, I'm happy that he's not stressed out each time he gets a trim. My first few attempts weren't great, but after his latest trim I'm very proud of myself. You could always take on her hair cuts yourself?


I second this - it's very rewarding. Dogs love it, and can keep them tidy on ongoing basis.

I love doing him.

As I show him (occasionally) - I keep him trimmed every 2 weeks, that way I don't loose the shape  :005:. But I do enjoy giving him a trim; sometimes it's a pain but on the whole, we have smootchy time when he's being trimmed so I don't mind  :luv: :luv:.
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: 8 Hairy Feet on September 24, 2013, 01:11:31 PM
Oh Pat how upsetting!
Are you going to post up for
a recommendation or go DIY?
steffxxx
ps Emma had a Lol at your
smoochy time... that's what I say to
Ellie in the evening... "c'mon it's
smoochy time!" and she comes
for kisses and cuddles :luv:
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Toni-UK on September 24, 2013, 01:30:27 PM

I decided to trim Charlie myself when I took him to the groomers and he basically clung to my leg; I didn't want to put him through that each time. One year on, I'm quite happy with what I can do - it's expensive to start up; however, I'm happy that he's not stressed out each time he gets a trim. My first few attempts weren't great, but after his latest trim I'm very proud of myself. You could always take on her hair cuts yourself?


I second this - it's very rewarding. Dogs love it, and can keep them tidy on ongoing basis.

I third this  :005: and Ninasmum, EmilyOliver and Dipsydoodle were my guides and helped me out with good advice, tips and encouragement.

When i think of how she used to be being taken to the groomers  :'( (let alone past results), i'm happy doing her myself now and there is always someone on here to ask a question to.  :D

Failing this idea...it's back to the drawing board finding someone you like, it is upsetting for you when you stipulated what you wanted, hope you didn't pay  >:D
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: dipsydoodlenoodle on September 24, 2013, 01:34:44 PM

I decided to trim Charlie myself when I took him to the groomers and he basically clung to my leg; I didn't want to put him through that each time. One year on, I'm quite happy with what I can do - it's expensive to start up; however, I'm happy that he's not stressed out each time he gets a trim. My first few attempts weren't great, but after his latest trim I'm very proud of myself. You could always take on her hair cuts yourself?


I second this - it's very rewarding. Dogs love it, and can keep them tidy on ongoing basis.

I third this  :005: and Ninasmum, EmilyOliver and Dipsydoodle were my guides and helped me out with good advice, tips and encouragement.

When i think of how she used to be being taken to the groomers  :'( (let alone past results), i'm happy doing her myself now and there is always someone on here to ask a question to.  :D

There are also reasonable guides on youtube :) I've been using them recently to be a bit braver with my trimming.

There is a great video, but it's in spanish but you can get the idea from it - it was posted on here. I can get the link when I'm home as I've saved it as a favourtie.

Plus we (COL) can help by posting advice/guides :). It's not that bad; honest :)
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Patp on September 24, 2013, 02:00:23 PM
Thanks everyone.

I have just had her on the worktop (on a rubber bathmat so she wont slip) and have tried to give her body a bit of a trim.  At the moment she looks like a woolly mammoth body with shaun the sheeps head, ears and legs  ph34r ph34r

She hasnt come out of her crate for the past hour, I think due to embarrassment!!

Definitely going to give it a go and keep her trimmed myself in the future.  My SIL has some clippers and she can do between her toes for me.  But will no doubt be asking for some advice on here.

My OH says there is only a few weeks difference between a bad haircut and a good haircut!!  Lets hope so!!

Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Emilyoliver on September 24, 2013, 04:05:07 PM

Definitely going to give it a go and keep her trimmed myself in the future.  My SIL has some clippers and she can do between her toes for me.  But will no doubt be asking for some advice on here.

My OH says there is only a few weeks difference between a bad haircut and a good haircut!!  Lets hope so!!


Advice freely dispensed on here - just ask  :D

And your OH is right!  Best advice I had from my breeder (who shows) was 'don't panic whatever you do - it grows back'  :005:
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Patp on September 24, 2013, 04:13:16 PM

There are also reasonable guides on youtube :) I've been using them recently to be a bit braver with my trimming.

There is a great video, but it's in spanish but you can get the idea from it - it was posted on here. I can get the link when I'm home as I've saved it as a favourtie.


the link would be great thanks
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: JamiesGirl on September 24, 2013, 07:15:15 PM
I decided to trim Charlie myself when I took him to the groomers and he basically clung to my leg; I didn't want to put him through that each time. One year on, I'm quite happy with what I can do - it's expensive to start up; however, I'm happy that he's not stressed out each time he gets a trim. My first few attempts weren't great, but after his latest trim I'm very proud of myself. You could always take on her hair cuts yourself?



can't agree with this enough i groom jamie my self and its so good to be able to do as little or much as you like in one go. one day i'll do his ears and paws another his back legs another his face etc etc. he's always trying to give me hugs and kisses whist i do  :luv:
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Patp on September 24, 2013, 07:20:54 PM
I am going to do a little often as JamiesGirl has suggested to keep ontop of things.  Must admit, I havent had time lately because of making ice cream, but will spend some time every week making sure she is looking tidy rather than just brushing.

Jinley is looking very sorry for herself at the moment - I have posted on the rogues gallery a picture of her sulking in her crate!!
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Pearly on September 24, 2013, 09:25:25 PM
Jinley :luv: still looks like the beautiful Jinley :luv: I know.......just a little over groomed ;)

I'm really disappointed for you - given next door use the same place and Pebbles always looks good afterwards.....  >:D safe to say we won't be going there!

I have clippers if you want to borrow them.....
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Sarah/G on September 24, 2013, 09:58:47 PM
Oh Pat, I really am sorry to hear this.
Jinley always looked so well groomed, I can understand how angry you must be.
I also do groom Brodie myself, but might not be any use as he sports the hairy mammoth look, complete with Ugg boots xxx
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Carolynleah on September 25, 2013, 08:48:05 AM
I used to trim Nerys myself, but after she was spayed her hair became so thick and woolly I really couldn't do it well!  So I took her to a groomer recommended by my son, who does exactly what I ask for.  The first time she rang me just to check what I wanted ~ Nerys is docked, which I didn't like (I didn't get her till she was 1) so I asked her to leave the curly hair a t the end of her tail, not to shave her ears and to leave a skirt.  She comes back looking and smelling gorgeous so it is well worth the money.
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: dipsydoodlenoodle on September 25, 2013, 12:41:43 PM

There are also reasonable guides on youtube :) I've been using them recently to be a bit braver with my trimming.

There is a great video, but it's in spanish but you can get the idea from it - it was posted on here. I can get the link when I'm home as I've saved it as a favourtie.


the link would be great thanks

I "think" this is it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgIYrBSNWKo

I can't see it at work to confirm it, but I'm 99% sure it is the right one.
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Patp on September 25, 2013, 04:04:43 PM
Thanks that is great, I will take a look if only to prevent the bald eagle look next time!!
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Holly Berry on September 25, 2013, 04:13:56 PM

Definitely going to give it a go and keep her trimmed myself in the future.  My SIL has some clippers and she can do between her toes for me.  But will no doubt be asking for some advice on here.

My OH says there is only a few weeks difference between a bad haircut and a good haircut!!  Lets hope so!!


Advice freely dispensed on here - just ask  :D

And your OH is right!  Best advice I had from my breeder (who shows) was 'don't panic whatever you do - it grows back'  :005:

When I first started, my OH would only take them out in the dark  ph34r
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Jan D on September 25, 2013, 04:20:03 PM
This video is fascinating Emma - I have working cockers but I still find it really interesting to watch - that cocker is so good!!
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: dipsydoodlenoodle on September 25, 2013, 05:12:56 PM
This video is fascinating Emma - I have working cockers but I still find it really interesting to watch - that cocker is so good!!

It's great, I'm fascinated at how quickly he cuts, snip snip blink done!

It's a good video, even just for learning how to trim feet, or trim tails.
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: lynnruby on September 26, 2013, 12:38:17 PM
I've only just seen this Pat (haven't been on much for the last few days)  :shades:  As you know, we have had a few bad grooming experiences  >:D and it's horrible when you give specific instructions, then the groomer does the opposite  >:(

Well, I finally "bit the bullet" and invested in my own grooming equipment  ;)  After watching a few videos (they make it look sooo easy!) and lots of great advice and encouragement from some fellow COLers......... thanks Bob and Emma  :luv:  I had my first attempt on Saturday  :huh:  It took me 5 hours  :o which included a bath, then a whole hour drying her!!

She doesn't look brilliant, but then again, she doesn't look too bad for a first attempt.  Well, she still "sort of" looks like a Cocker  :lol2:  I still haven't tackled her feet (waiting for OH to be around again to aid and abet  :005:)  I'm sure I'll get better in time....  :dunno:  and at least now, I can be in control of what is or isn't done  ;)

Maybe you could have a go at doing Jinley yourself?

Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: dipsydoodlenoodle on September 26, 2013, 12:53:02 PM
I've only just seen this Pat (haven't been on much for the last few days)  :shades:  As you know, we have had a few bad grooming experiences  >:D and it's horrible when you give specific instructions, then the groomer does the opposite  >:(

Well, I finally "bit the bullet" and invested in my own grooming equipment  ;)  After watching a few videos (they make it look sooo easy!) and lots of great advice and encouragement from some fellow COLers......... thanks Bob and Emma  :luv:  I had my first attempt on Saturday  :huh:  It took me 5 hours  :o which included a bath, then a whole hour drying her!!

She doesn't look brilliant, but then again, she doesn't look too bad for a first attempt.  Well, she still "sort of" looks like a Cocker  :lol2:  I still haven't tackled her feet (waiting for OH to be around again to aid and abet  :005:)  I'm sure I'll get better in time....  :dunno:  and at least now, I can be in control of what is or isn't done  ;)

Maybe you could have a go at doing Jinley yourself?



I've found that since I know the basics of what to do now, the videos are really useful. They were a little advanced for me to begin with, but I bit the bullet a few weeks ago, and did more  :D
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: lynnruby on September 26, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
I did find the videos useful Emma, it's just that they make it look really easy..... a bit like when you watch someone do a beautiful painting or decorate a cake   :lol2:
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Toni-UK on September 26, 2013, 08:21:09 PM
 
 It took me 5 hours  :o which included a bath, then a whole hour drying her!


It took me that long on my first attempt and that was without the bath and drying  :005:

What i do now is bath and dry her on one day and the next day she gets a pavement walk in the morning so she doesn't get filthy then after her groom she gets the off lead walk.
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Patp on September 26, 2013, 08:54:43 PM
I found the video useful, but I think I will be dealing with it in bite size pieces!

I didnt want to go down the route of using clippers and was hoping to tackle it with thinning scissors and straight scissors to start with.

I think the most difficult thing to manage is all of the swirls around her shoulders and deciding where to finish blending down to chest between her front legs. :dunno:

Then the other problem is her skirt which has been cut straight making her look like a box! >:( So will look for some pictures on that to see if I can put a bit of shape into it.  Then she has little swirls and quiffs that stick out from the skirt making it look like a famous Farrah Fawcett Majors hair cut!!

I have a very large breakfast bar that she is happy standing on a rubber bath mat on so I am sure she will cope with a little and often.

Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: dipsydoodlenoodle on September 26, 2013, 09:06:40 PM
Bite sized pieces will be the best anyway, neither of you want to get bored and fed up.

Give it a go with the blending, it'll sorta make more sense when you are actually there with the scissors.:).

You don't need clippers, thinners will work the same, clippers just give a more consistent length and they are quicker, but both do the same job.
Title: Re: worst grooming ever!!
Post by: Toni-UK on September 26, 2013, 09:11:38 PM
Here is the before and after of my first attempt, though i did use clippers as well as scissors.

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/peterUK/media/Toni/Milly/2013-04-10084725_zps00a3e754.jpg.html


http://smg.photobucket.com/user/peterUK/media/Toni/Milly/2013-04-11163848_zps067fe348.jpg.html