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Cocker Specific Discussion => Grooming => Topic started by: Mike on July 31, 2002, 03:51:06 PM
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I have only come across this term since visiting this forum, and I dont actually know what it is. Would anyone be so kind as to let me know?
thanks, Mike
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Handstripping is when dead/excess hair is removed by hand, using finger & thumb in a plucking motion or by using a special Spaniel comb (fine-toothed comb which also removes dead hair when pulled through the coat) Hand stripping leaves a natural finish to the coat & trims last much longer than if the coat has been cut with electric clippers/scissors. It takes a long time to do which is why many high street dog groomers won't do it & even try to tell clients that handstripping is cruel - it's not if done correctly & when the coat is "ready" for stripping (meaning the coat comes out fairly easily when plucked)
HTH
Jane
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thanks Jane
I currently use a two-sided brush, which has ordinary bristles one side and metal spikes the other, that I use to keep tangles at bay and just generally keep the pup tidy - 'hand stripping' seems to be the next step.
Have you any ideas where I might be able to get such a comb from? It sounds a specialist comb that my high street pet shop is unlikely to stock.
Mike
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Hi Mike
The spaniel comb that Jane refers to is called a Spratts 76 and is available by mail order from Diamond Edge Ltd. It can be found if you click on this address http://www.diamondedgeltd.com/acatalog/Onl...e_Combs_26.html (http://www.diamondedgeltd.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Combs_26.html)
Another good way of getting dead puppy coat out is to thread an elastic band through the teeth of a metal comb and this will also help 'pull' out any dead coat.
As Jane says hand stripping does give the most natural look and is favoured by those (or most!) who show their dogs. If you do give it a try be prepared to go through the pain barrier (you not the dog) as it does make your arm ache until your used to it!
Good luck ;)
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I hand strip my two dogs. It is time consuming but worth it in the long run. I tidy mine up every two weeks or so. Another tool from Diamond Edge is the Coat King for the centre back. The dogs love it - it is like being stroked and they want more and more.... Thankfully they love being groomed. I hate to see dogs clippered off. One of mine was clippered by his previous owner and now his ears have gone all curly.
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thanks guys for pointing me in the right direction.
I tried using my finger and thumb to pluck loose hair out.. but currently there doesnt seem to be any. Pup's only 5 months (and one week), so perhaps its a bit early. Wish I could do more, as she's finding it really difficult in this recent humidity.
By way, her ears are already curly... ;D
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Yes 5 months is a bit early to start trying to handstrip - sometimes they are nearer 8 months before the coat comes out easily (or even later!) We have a 6 monther at the moment & her coat isn't ready for stripping yet - luckily she doesn't mind the heat & is bombing arould like mad, as normal :)
Jane
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And then there is Otis 8) he will be 6 months on the 8th Aug and his coat is still not giving an inch. He's black and has not stood still long enough to realise that the weather has been hot :D
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I couldn't hand strip my black dog til he was 12 months - just to give you an idea that some dogs do take longer. When it was ready to come I had a huge job on my hands and we have never really gotten through the front legs so I have to use thinning scissors on them - not as neat a finish but it does the trick.
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My hand stripping comb arrived this morning, the one suggested from Diamond Edge in the thread above. Heard a thud in the hallway (the post), then Daisy brought it upstairs to me - she must have known :D
Just waiting for the coat king to arrive now (next couple of days) so hopefully I can devote this weekend to pampering Daisy 8)
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???Thanks Mike for asking the question I wanted to! I have also been on Diamond Edge thanks to Michele and Jude and ordered the Spratts 76 but which Coat King should I order?? There are soooo many ?
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Good question! I rec'd the Spratts 76 yesterday morning and it's brilliant and Candy loves it too. I didn't know which Coat king to get either.
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Hi All,
I would suggest the 26 blade one is best for a cocker :D
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;D Big Cheer to Michele for great advise once again on the Coat King 26 Blade.
Thanks Michele !
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Ooooh you've made me blush :-[
Any time you are more than welcome :D
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yes thanks Michele - much appreciated! ;)
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I don't recall reading this thread at all - I want one of those spratt things! I already have a coat king which Brook loves and it gets out soooooo much hair. Brilliant invention!
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my coat king arrived today as well. So excited! Going to give it a bash tonight i think.... wish me luck! :D
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Good luck Mike ;).
How do you all make your dogs stand still long enough to groom them? I have a Spratts 76, and Brie just attacks it, rolls on her back and becomes hyper!
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Hi Logan
Do you put Brie on a table or something while you groom her? It seems to make them much calmer and less likely to play up than if they are on the floor.
My Poppy won't stay still if she's on the floor but is a quiet little angel when I put her on a table. Just make sure the surface is not slippy.
Hope this helps :)
Fiona
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Absolutely, Fiona :) Never attempt to groom a puppy on the floor - you are on a hiding to nothing as it is too easy for pups to wriggle & squirm & generally get away with murder if they are on the floor :) Always groom on a table, using a rubber car mat or shower mat to make the surface non-slip -you'll be amazed at the difference it will make (it's a lot easier on your back too :))
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Hi. Ive been reading all the points re hand stripping etc. I have had my dog clipped the last few times, but I dont like the results very much, he looks like a dalmation!! :- Is it likely that his coat will never be smooth now, its very fluffy on his back towards his tail? I would very much like to try myself, are the comb and the coat king the only things I will need, do i need scissors for his legs etc. if so what type. Will I just be able to use these alone or are these to help with hand stripping at the same time. He seems to lose a lot of hair but if you try to pull it not very much comes out! Any advice would be really helpful.
I also have problems just brushing him, hes like a lunatic, he acts as if hes having an electric shock :o every time the brush gets an inch near him, but because he doesnt stay still his ears get caught and this makes the whole thing worse because hes more scared. I will try to put him on a table and see if this makes a difference.
I would love to have him looking smart all the time! (By the way he's blue roan)
Thanks
Nicky
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Hi Nicky
It is possible to handstrip a Cocker that has been clipped but often it's more difficult, as clipping can make the coat thick & fluffy. You could have a go though - you'll need two pairs of scissors, a normal straight-edged pair for trimming round feet etc & a pair of thinning scissors (one blade with serrated teeth) for thinning out hair on the ears, along the throat, under the tail etc. Then you need a Spaniel comb, a slicker brush and/or a Coat King. You can buy a video on hand stripping a Cocker (available from http://www.doggrooming.uk.com/ (http://www.doggrooming.uk.com/)) & there are 2 sites which might help too, have a look at http://www.turmalin.freeserve.co.uk/Cocker...Show%20Trim.htm (http://www.turmalin.freeserve.co.uk/Cocker%20Show%20Trim.htm) & http://pamgair.homestead.com/Howdoyougroomthem.html (http://pamgair.homestead.com/Howdoyougroomthem.html)
HTH
Jane
PS If you do have your dog neutered, handstripping will not generally be possible (have a look at previous threads on this subject)
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Great - I was actually going to ask if there was a video of handstripping, as I didnt manage to find much online myself.
Today I used the coat king for the first time, and I'm very impressed. Think I'm going to use all the fur which comes out to make a cushion... you think I'm joking! :D
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Thanks everyone ;D
I shall try putting the wee monkey on a table. Would any table do or does it have to be small enough to force her to stand still?
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I have read this thread with interest as the last three times cooper has been clipped, I think I might like to have a go at doing him myself using these combs. One thing I would like to ask is where you all get your tables from. I obviously can't put him on the kitchen table as we have discouraged him from getting on there for obvious reasons, but I do need something, especially as we only have a shower and it is killing my back when I need to shower him.
Please help :D
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Hi Angela
I don't have a special table. When Poppy was really little I used to sit her on top of her crate. Once she got too heavy for that I started puting her on a sort of chest thing that we have in the living room which isn't that high (about knee height). More recently I have used 2 dining room chairs - 1 for me to sit on and the other one for her to stand on. It doesn't seem to matter what it is I put her on as long as it's not the floor. And sitting down while I brush/clip her is much more comfortable than standing :)
We only have a shower too and if I can't be bothered killing my back I use a baby bath that I got in Ikea for £2 and have a few saucepans full of water for rinsing.
Grooming time in my house is very glamorous - can you tell ;D
Fiona
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I got that Ikea bath - great isn't it ;D.
I love bargains!
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Thanks for the advice, my table problem is solved as my clever man is going to make us a fiberglass one with removable legs. We did try putting Cooper in the bowl from the kitchen sink once, you should have seen it, we ended up with more water on the floor than in the bowl. What a scream :D Now I settle for the shower its less mess.
How often should I shower the little monster?
Someone told me that sea water is bad for his skin, is this true?
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Hi Angela
My three are always in the sea as we live 5 minutes away. I haven't noticed any problems with their skin and seems to keep the fleas away and I'd say their coats are in lovely condition.
HTH
Dessie ;D
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Thanks for that Dessie, I thought as much as Cooper doesn't seem to have suffered and he loves the sea too :D
Actually SWAM for the first time last week < ;D proud mum>
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Hi Angela
Douglas swam as soon as he went in the water, he just wanted to follow Sebastian, and doesn't he look cute ;) Must get some photos before the weather turns ...
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I got that Ikea bath - great isn't it ;D.
I love bargains!
And their bath mats are really cheap too, good for standing the dog on whilst grooming ;D
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Ok, so having sorted out the coat king anf comb (lets hope they come with instuctions) which thinning scissors should I be looking at? - what a choice! Any help would be greatfully received.
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Thinning scissors for Cockers should be the ones with 46 teeth in the serrated side. There are many different makes available at very different prices - someone I know has some Japanese thinners which cost £200, slightly out of the price range of most people ;D I prefer the Roseline range of scissors (available from Simpsons, http://www.simpsons-online.co.uk/ (http://www.simpsons-online.co.uk/)) but many people start with a pair of Gotta 65 thinners - a good, sturdy scissors which will do the job (widely available including from Diamond Edge, http://www.diamondedgeltd.com/acatalog/Onl...cissors_21.html (http://www.diamondedgeltd.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thinning_Scissors_21.html))
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Thanks for the help Jane. I placed an order with Diamond Edge yesturday for the coat king and the comb - it was on the doorstep this morning - what service! ;D I have used the coat king this afternoon on Cooper and all I can say is WOW - what a difference! I think we should all go into business producing stuffing for cushions! - could raise some money Stuart.
Thankyou all for your help on how to groom, with the table etc. No more trips to the grooming place when I can hopefully acheive a better result than clipping. I am soooooooooo pleased ;D, and Cooper was so good for me. (I've used the top of his crate until my table is made.)
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I had next day delivery too, which I thought was pretty cool.
I'm halfway towards my first cushion already ;)
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Good stuff Mike. ;D Well thats my scissors sorted out, my Mum is getting them as a late birthday & early christmas present. Now all I need is the video on how to do it... I do love this site it is so useful. :D
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I tried to get the video using the link that Jane provided and unfortunately it seems that the telephone number is wrong on thier site, so for anyone else I managed to get it from http://www.dezynadog.co.uk/pages/index2.html (http://www.dezynadog.co.uk/pages/index2.html)
HTH
Angela
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Ooh I do hate it when websites don't update their details :) Thanks for posting that new link Angela - I shall update my records accordingly :)
Jane
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Having used the coat king and spratts comb, Daisy is now looking much neater and tidier, but I'm not really sure what to do with her feathers. Should they be 'stripped' too? Is this where thinning scissors come in (which I dont have yet)? I want the feathers to be a tidier than they currently are, but dont want to lose too much length if thats possible. What do our resident grooming experts recommend please? :D
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Mick
If Daisy has profuse feathering on her front legs - the thinners can be used to thin it out. Only trim the length if you need to. You can take the ends off - lightly - to remove any unsightly straggles.
You can also thin the chest furnishings if they are very thick. It's really down to you and the look you want and how much hair you want to deal with. Scour the web for pictures of Cockers and find ones you like the look of then you know what you're aiming for. Keep that picture to hand when trimming - it'll help you picture how it looks against your girl.
The main thing is to snip once - brush step back and look again - you can take more off but you can't put it back on.!! We ALL wish we could at times.
Use the thinners on her throat to trim the hair close to the skin - this can be difficult and you have to be very careful not to catch the dogs throat - coz it hurts :'(
Have you got some straight scissors? You'll need them to do the feet. Cut away all the excess hair under the paws so that it is level with the pads. Don't go in between the pads. When she is standing - take your straight scissors and cut vertically down against the side and front of her paw to cut away all the hair that sticks out.
It is not easy and takes time to learn. You will make mistakes - honest we all do.
I have some ifno'n on my web-site about trimming and also a link to another site that gives some really good pointers.
A word of warning about the video. I have it - it's not bad but doesn't really deal with a dog that has a lot of coat or one that wriggles and has ticklish feet ;D
hth a bit anyway
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Thanks for that info Pam - I swear Mike can read my mind :D as this is just what I was wondering as well.
Hows the cushion business going Mike? ;D
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Must be a case of 'great minds'... :D I've filled half a carrier bag with hair from Daisy, and the springer's ears, and it's so soft!!
Thank you very much Pam, all very helpful. Daisy's feathers arent anywhere near as long as Jasper's or Otis' 8), so hopefully thinning will do the trick. I saw a nice picture of one of Dessie's dogs (Bart maybe?) which is a blue roan with lovely long feathers, that's what I'll be aiming for (wishful thinking!!) ;)
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I know this may sound like a really stupid question but I am going to ask any way. I am supposed to use the coat king 'with ' the coat and not against it aren't I?
The other thing is he has a really curly head, what should I do with that?
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I know this may sound like a really stupid question but I am going to ask any way. I am supposed to use the coat king 'with ' the coat and not against it aren't I?
The other thing is he has a really curly head, what should I do with that?
Angela
Yes - you go with the direction of the hair growth with the coat king - not against it. The curly mop on top should be hand stripped - never cut. It is one of the easiest parts to do actually and is easy to do with them sat on your knee - they'll drift of to sleep eventually as you become more skilled in doing it. ;)
As soon as you can hold a curl - just a small amount of hair - between you finger and thumb - enough of a curl for it to wrap around a bit - it's long enough to come out. grip tightly and pull - quite briskly and it should come out. Go all over the top of the head and you'll soon have a really lovely head to look at. You can do the tops of the ears slightly on some dogs - but it can be tender on others - you'll have to judge your dog.
If you have a really curly head - it is well ready for doing. Don't be alarmed at how much comes out - the short new growth will be hiding underneath. Stripping the head when it has become overgrown is one of the most dramatic changes you'll see in how your dog looks - they take on a whole new persona - much more mature and grown up - rather than an unruly fluffball ;D
hth
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I shall be slightly controversial here & say that I only handstrip the heads of show dogs. I feel that it is perfectly acceptable to use a Coat King and/or thinning scissors on the top knot (long curly hair on the head) of a pet puppy, especially if it's a very thick coated solid black. Whereas the top knots of particolours can be quite easy to strip out (though not always), those of solid puppies (from show lines) can be nightmares to do, specially with puppies that are not used to being "plucked". I also would not pluck the tops of the ears on a pet puppy (unless they had particularly easy coats :) ) - most find it too uncomfortable. It's different for show puppies - they are trained from an early age to accept stripping & show owners tend to be doing a little bit here & there every day so their pups don't get fed up. I guess it depends on what you are aiming for - if you want your puppy to be trimmed as if for the show ring, then yes, hand strip the head but be warned, with a solid, this can be a very long job indeed ;D
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I used the coat king to deal with the curls (affro!) on top of the head. It worked well, and as Pammy said, the difference in her overall look was huge (in a positive way).
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Thankyou for your help peoples :D My video & scissors arrived this morning, so guess what I will be doing this weekend! ;D I don't think I will be showing Cooper as there aren't many shows up here in the back of beyond - thats why the cybershow was good, gives me a chance to show him off! ;D
I suppose I will have to wait a while for really good results as he has been clipped 3 times and I seem to have ended up with lots of sticky out bits but I will persevere.
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I'd forgotten Cooper had been clipped so I would say definitely forget about trying to handstrip his head - just aim for a nice neat appearance using your Coat King & thinners. A lot of show people also don't handstrip their dog's heads & if it's done skillfully, it's not always easy to tell. Just do what you feel comfortable with :)
Jane
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Thanks for that Jane, I'm not sure about the 'Skillfully' bit though LOL ;D
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Just to say - I sucessfully hand stripped the head of a bitch who had been clippered in the past and got her head looking lovely again in no time. I find the head the easiest bit to do myself. I could have just been lucky with the Cockers I've seen and done. I would ay thought that if I ever had a dog that really didn't like hand stripping at all - then I would always look for another way that made it better for them -even if that meant clippers.
I'm lucky though in that I only have the two to do now and so do have the time to strip their heads and the rest of them. I generally do the head on an ongoing basis - when they are sat on my knee watching telly - so it never gets to the stage where it's a curly mop. I find that works well for me. I would imagine doing a full curly mop-top would be quite hard on the dog.
jmho
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Just to say - I sucessfully hand stripped the head of a bitch who had been clippered in the past and got her head looking lovely again in no time. I find the head the easiest bit to do myself. I could have just been lucky with the Cockers I've seen and done. .
Yes you have been lucky Pam, but I suspect when you have had to trim as many Cockers as I have, you might change your mind :) There are lots of different coat types out there -some are easy & some most definitely are not & a solid black with a curly top knot definitely comes into the second category ;D
Jane
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Just to say - I sucessfully hand stripped the head of a bitch who had been clippered in the past and got her head looking lovely again in no time. I find the head the easiest bit to do myself. I could have just been lucky with the Cockers I've seen and done. .
Yes you have been lucky Pam, but I suspect when you have had to trim as many Cockers as I have, you might change your mind :) There are lots of different coat types out there -some are easy & some most definitely are not & a solid black with a curly top knot definitely comes into the second category ;D
Jane
Otis's 8) top knot certainly took time and patience, if you brushed it up he looked like Woody Woodpecker ;D
All the pet cockers that I trim either have their heads clippered or I use thinning scissors, which I agree with Jane you can still achieve a very presentable finish. We all agree hand stripping takes time and unless the hair is really so dead that it just about falls out, then I don't think its fair on the dog
imho :)
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Hi all,
Please can someone write me a shopping list of the coatking and other things that i will need to de-mop Bailey.
He has'nt a lot of coat at the moment as he's only 17 wks old.
He love's the shower and bath. He also loves getting caked in mud.
I have brought some scissors and trim his feet, tail and ears.
Please help,
Claire
P.S i'd like to get a table to groom him and have tried to do this on the side board with my husband holding him but he just wont have it!
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Hi all,
Please can someone write me a shopping list of the coatking and other things that i will need to de-mop Bailey.
He has'nt a lot of coat at the moment as he's only 17 wks old.
He love's the shower and bath. He also loves getting caked in mud.
I have brought some scissors and trim his feet, tail and ears.
Please help,
Claire
P.S i'd like to get a table to groom him and have tried to do this on the side board with my husband holding him but he just wont have it!
Hi Claire, I have gone through this thread and copied the relevant comments for you. As you will see Jane has already mentioned what you should need for keeping Bailey tidy.
What I would suggest is that you start now even if he hasn't got much coat as this gets him used to the equipment and to being handled in a controlled situation. You may have to use a firm voice if he's a bit of a wriggler, but standing him on a non-slip surface should help enormously.
You could have a go though - you'll need two pairs of scissors, a normal straight-edged pair for trimming round feet etc & a pair of thinning scissors (one blade with serrated teeth) for thinning out hair on the ears, along the throat, under the tail etc. Then you need a Spaniel comb, a slicker brush and/or a Coat King. You can buy a video on hand stripping a Cocker (available from http://www.doggrooming.uk.com/) (http://www.doggrooming.uk.com/)) & there are 2 sites which might help too, have a look at http://www.turmalin.freeserve.co.uk/Cocker...Show%20Trim.htm (http://www.turmalin.freeserve.co.uk/Cocker%20Show%20Trim.htm) & http://pamgair.homestead.com/Howdoyougroomthem.html (http://pamgair.homestead.com/Howdoyougroomthem.html)
Handstripping is when dead/excess hair is removed by hand, using finger & thumb in a plucking motion or by using a special Spaniel comb (fine-toothed comb which also removes dead hair when pulled through the coat)
The spaniel comb that Jane refers to is called a Spratts 76 and is available by mail order from Diamond Edge Ltd. It can be found if you click on this address http://www.diamondedgeltd.com/acatalog/Onl...e_Combs_26.html (http://www.diamondedgeltd.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Combs_26.html)
Another good way of getting dead puppy coat out is to thread an elastic band through the teeth of a metal comb and this will also help 'pull' out any dead coat.
Re: blade size for Coat King
I would suggest the 26 blade one is best for a cocker
How do you all make your dogs stand still long enough to groom them? I have a Spratts 76, and Brie just attacks it, rolls on her back and becomes hyper!
Never attempt to groom a puppy on the floor - you are on a hiding to nothing as it is too easy for pups to wriggle & squirm & generally get away with murder if they are on the floor Always groom on a table, using a rubber car mat or shower mat to make the surface non-slip -you'll be amazed at the difference it will make (it's a lot easier on your back too )
Ok, so having sorted out the coat king and comb (lets hope they come with instructions) which thinning scissors should I be looking at? - what a choice! Any help would be gratefully received.
Thinning scissors for Cockers should be the ones with 46 teeth in the serrated side. There are many different makes available at very different prices - someone I know has some Japanese thinners which cost £200, slightly out of the price range of most people I prefer the Roseline range of scissors (available from Simpsons, http://www.simpsons-online.co.uk/) (http://www.simpsons-online.co.uk/)) but many people start with a pair of Gotta 65 thinners - a good, sturdy scissors which will do the job (widely available including from Diamond Edge, http://www.diamondedgeltd.com/acatalog/Onl...issors_21.html) (http://www.diamondedgeltd.com/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Thinning_Scissors_21.html))
I tried to get the video using the link that Jane provided and unfortunately it seems that the telephone number is wrong on their site, so for anyone else I managed to get it fromhttp://www.dezynadog.co.uk/pages/index2.html
Having used the coat king and spratts comb, Daisy is now looking much neater and tidier, but I'm not really sure what to do with her feathers. Should they be 'stripped' too? Is this where thinning scissors come in (which I don't have yet)? I want the feathers to be a tidier than they currently are, but don't want to lose too much length if thats possible. What do our resident grooming experts recommend please?
If Daisy has profuse feathering on her front legs - the thinners can be used to thin it out. Only trim the length if you need to. You can take the ends off - lightly - to remove any unsightly straggles.
You can also thin the chest furnishings if they are very thick. It's really down to you and the look you want and how much hair you want to deal with. Scour the web for pictures of Cockers and find ones you like the look of then you know what you're aiming for. Keep that picture to hand when trimming - it'll help you picture how it looks against your girl.
The main thing is to snip once - brush step back and look again - you can take more off but you can't put it back on.!! We ALL wish we could at times.
Use the thinners on her throat to trim the hair close to the skin - this can be difficult and you have to be very careful not to catch the dogs throat - coz it hurts
Have you got some straight scissors? You'll need them to do the feet. Cut away all the excess hair under the paws so that it is level with the pads. Don't go in between the pads. When she is standing - take your straight scissors and cut vertically down against the side and front of her paw to cut away all the hair that sticks out.
It is not easy and takes time to learn. You will make mistakes - honest we all do.
I have some info on on my web-site about trimming and also a link to another site that gives some really good pointers.
A word of warning about the video. I have it - it's not bad but doesn't really deal with a dog that has a lot of coat or one that wriggles and has ticklish feet
I know this may sound like a really stupid question but I am going to ask any way. I am supposed to use the coat king 'with ' the coat and not against it aren't I?
The other thing is he has a really curly head, what should I do with that?
Yes - you go with the direction of the hair growth with the coat king - not against it. The curly mop on top should be hand stripped - never cut. It is one of the easiest parts to do actually and is easy to do with them sat on your knee - they'll drift of to sleep eventually as you become more skilled in doing it.
Re Hand Stripping the Head
As soon as you can hold a curl - just a small amount of hair - between you finger and thumb - enough of a curl for it to wrap around a bit - it's long enough to come out. grip tightly and pull - quite briskly and it should come out. Go all over the top of the head and you'll soon have a really lovely head to look at. You can do the tops of the ears slightly on some dogs - but it can be tender on others - you'll have to judge your dog.
If you have a really curly head - it is well ready for doing. Don't be alarmed at how much comes out - the short new growth will be hiding underneath. Stripping the head when it has become overgrown is one of the most dramatic changes you'll see in how your dog looks - they take on a whole new persona - much more mature and grown up - rather than an unruly fluffball
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Hi everyone,
I was just going to order my Spratts 76 and Coat King 26 when I thought about ordering some thinning scissors and some small scissors for fur around his pads etc. When I looked at the Diamond Edge site there were tons of options and I was totally confused!
Please can someone help me and tell me the best one to buy.
Thanks
Nicky
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I got these ones from Diamond Edge
No. 402
46 teeth, one blade serrated. Our own brand top quality German scissor. Black oxidised carbon steel, with silencer.
and Jane recommends the Gotta 65 ones. So there are 2 choices for you (narrows it down a bit) there is about £5 in price difference.
I'm afraid I can't help with the straight scissors though as I was lucky enough to be give a 'cast off' pair by a hairdresser. They throw them away when they consider them not to be sharp enough! nice japanese pair they are! So if you can find a friendly hairdresser, ther's your answer ;D
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If you just want a reasonable pair of straight-edged scissors for feet etc, then Boots used to do a very good priced pair (less than a tenner) & Micki also do an inexpensive pair (Micki range is in most good pet shops) - both are perfectly ok for basic trimming tasks
Jane
PS I would love some Japanese scissors but the ones I've seen cost £200 - a bit out of my price range ;D
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PS I would love some Japanese scissors but the ones I've seen cost £200 - a bit out of my price range ;D
Jane, perhaps we could ask a certain lady in the Newbury area who has won many grooming competitions if we could have her cast offs ;D
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Jane, perhaps we could ask a certain lady in the Newbury area who has won many grooming competitions if we could have her cast offs
There you go Jane, theres your answer ;D
I must say though the only reason I got the other thinning scissors and not the ones you recommended was because My mum bought them for my as a birthday & christmas pressie ;D
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Hiya
I've not read this thread before, & as I'm starting to think Dylan is looking more like a teddy than a Cocker I thought I should find out what i have to do lol. I rushed to check his comb that i got from the breeder & yep it is a Spratts 76. My question is, is it a case of pulling the coat by hand or will this comb do the trick as an alternative. I tend to use the comb on him most of the time as the brush tickles him so much. I've got a Coat King but I think hes still a bit young for that, hes 5 1/2 months now. I've tried handstripping on his head but I feel like I'm tugging it out rather than it just coming out....is that right?
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OK an update....I tried the Coat King & the amount of hair that came out is amazing!! :o Do you just keep going till its all out, or will he end up bald lol :-
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:)Wow you are so brave!! Indie (6 months) is at the groomers at the moment being handstripped :o I had tugged at her hair and it came out quite easily, so I knew she was ready.
Send some piccies of when your done with Dylan :) I might attemt Indie myself next time, once I have something to follow ;) I was gonna keep her topknot, but changed my mind :( Now I wish I had kept it 8)
Emma and Indie
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I can't send any pics at the min....Dylan ate through the cable that connects the camera to the PC lol ::)
Tell you what Ive not been doing this for very long & I can see such a difference, he's going smooth! I bet you cant wait to see what Indie looks like, can you post a pic for me :)
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Surfing Spaniel, Are You intending to show Dylan?
If so don`t use the coat king. The coat must be handstripped :) If You are not going to show then it`s o.k to use the coat king till the coat stops coming out. The front of the legs and the head can be trimmed with thinning scissors. Again the head should be done by hand if You want to show.
Tracey :)
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Hiya
Thanx for the reply, no I'm not intending to show him. I know the breeder did mention being careful of 'tram lines' when you use the Coat King, but he seems fine. I think Ive got a long way to go till its all out though, I'll do a bit each day, he seems to prefer this to being combed.
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You`ll certainly get more out with a coat king than You would with a comb ;)As long as You dont dig into the coat You should get a good even finish. :)
Tracey :)
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II bet you cant wait to see what Indie looks like, can you post a pic for me :)
I can't wait your right ;D I am so excited about seeing her :D Of course I will post before and after pictures, thats if we can get her to keep still ;)
Emma and Indie
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Glad you have found this thread useful and we'd love to see the results of your efforts but as this thread is 5 pages long already I am going to lock it now, so can you please start a new one when you have some pics to show us.
thanks
Michele