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Cocker Specific Discussion => Puppies => Topic started by: c19unn on November 10, 2011, 08:06:50 AM
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Hello my little puppy section :) It seems you are going to have to put up with me a bit longer after Diesel is 1 year as I have done all health checks and had long chat with a breeder and .....I have just reserved a little Black male pupster :banana: :banana:
He was born yesterday :luv:
The great thinG is that both mum and dads breeders are in touch - I had origionally contacted the Studs breeder - who also breeds her girlies and she put me in contact with our little Rileys Breeder. I spent a whole hour on the phone to the dads breeder - She is lovely and was very helpful with advice etc and then had a chat with the mums breeder who has agreed to reserve one of the pups for me. I get on with both woman so great and have been invited to meet the daddy as well as mum :)
So I shall be a mummy again on 6th January :luv: :luv:
Its such a different way for me to get the pup as like you all know Diesel was 13 weeks when we got him and we bought him there and then.
This time we get to watch Riley grow and the breeder also gives you a DVD with pictures from the birth to 8 weeks so that you havent missed out on any of the early stages :)
So so excited woo hoo - Off to buy scarves, ear muffs, hats, gloves and thermal undies for the toilet training :005:
Charlene, Diesel :luv: and Soon to be Riley :luv:
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ooooooo! Congratulations Charlene and Diesel :happydance:
You must be absolutely bursting with excitement :005:
Bet you can't wait to go and see him and meet mum and dad :luv:
I don't think you are going to surprise anyone on this board though by this anouncement :005: :rofl1:
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Haha no i dont think so :005:
Aww its soo wierd having to wait 8 weeks - but i must say that i am extremely happy with the breeder(s) that i have found - Both woman are great and want to keep in touch once the pup is home with us and sending us lots of pictures and videos of their cockers :)
Daddy is so excited also :005: and cant wait for little riley to come along :005:
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Oooohhh Charlene that's such great news. I knew it wouldn't be long until Diesel had his little brother :005:
Two Cocker's is certainly a lot of fun!
Really pleased for you.
Can't wait to see photos of little Riley when you get some.
Emma xx
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We reserved Jake when he was just a few days old ;)
I expect they will let you visit sometime after 2 weeks. We visited Jake at 5 weeks as we were on hols and busy before saw lots of photos though ;) We saw and reserved Tia at 2 weeks (they don't do a lot at 2 weeks :005:)
The time will soon fly with your first Xmas with Diesel etc, use this time now to re-inforce any training/minor issues you may have ;)
Relationship and support from the breeder and contact is sooo important I think.
Congrats again :D
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Hee Hee Charlene :005:
By heck you don't do things by half.
You go girl!
steffxxx
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Diesel is now in lead training (to stay on one side and not pull and is learning quite quickly - Everyhting else i must say is really good so just keeping it all tip top - He is 2 weeks into Whistle recall training and its coming along perfectly thanks to the Sticky so i will hopefully also have that down to a tee before Riley comes
Defo wanted a breeder that wanted to be friends and stay in touch and its excellent that the two woman with Rileys parents want to keep in contact and also to meet both parents :D
I JUST CANT WAIT :cool4:
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You are a very naughty girl! But very exciting!!!! :luv:
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There is no grass growing under your feet Charlene :005:
Many congratulations, great choice--a black boy :luv: looking forward to the Pics.
Oh nearly forgot to ask--are you having to travel a long way?
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3 hours for mum (in england)
And only about half hour or so along the road to meet dad
So alot further than the 10 mins along the road last time but not too far to be honest :)
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Over the moon for you Charlene - sounds like a completely different set of circumstances to when you got ickle Diesel :luv:
Can't wait to hear how you get on and looking forward to seeing pics of Riley :luv: :luv: :luv:
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Tut tut Charlene!! Where did you patients go?! lol!
Looking forward to meeting puppy Riley! I love black puppies! :luv:
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Aww im so excited to i just cannot wait - I can just see little riley being a little chewing, house pooping terror :005: as we were extremely lucky with diesel - very quick toilet training and only 1 or two accidents and not chewed anything :)
So im preparing myself :005:
Aww i know Claire im so impatient ph34r I just couldnt resist though - i did start off my breeder search looking for a late next year litter in mind however when i found out about the litter due and possible black pups, both parents health tested and Both mum and dad owners wanting to be friends and offer advice it was too good to be true - all i had to do was wait til the pups were born to find out if there would be any males ..
Low and behold 5 little black boys was the litter :005: I have no idea how i am meant to chose one of them :005:
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Oooo Charlene, its very exciting!
I cant wait to see pics of Riley. I love black cockers :luv: :luv:
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i know - well he is only 1 day old now (bless his little paws :luv:) as soon as i have some i shall get some up (with permission :shades:)
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Congrats Charlene! I can 'hear' the excitement in your post! I'm chuffed for you and look forward to hearing all about little Riley when you get him, and just can't wait to see pics! It will indeed be quite a different experience from Diesel but lovely to have a pup from as young as possible this time round. Riley, being black, will make a stunning looking pair with Diesel! :luv:
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Yup thats why we went with black :)
Its so different this time round but i cant wait :)
So excited - Got everything i need for him already and just looking for a crate for the boot for them both
Breeder just sent me a lovely pic of mum as a pup (she is solid black also :luv:)
So cant wait to see him and pick him out :luv:
Me and breeder going to talk today so she can let me know of the process as its new to me with buying diesel at 13 weeks :005:
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Well let's face it Charlene, you were never going to make it until after a holiday next year ;) What will you do now?
A black boy will be gorgeous - you lucky girl - although having a pup again with Bobby is proving a lot tougher for us than just having Roxy so be warned :P
I see he's made in on to your signature already - the grass certainly doesn't grow with you - impulsive does't even come close...but I was the same, as soon as we had decided that was me off on one until we got Bobby :)
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Well let's face it Charlene, you were never going to make it until after a holiday next year ;) What will you do now?
A black boy will be gorgeous - you lucky girl - although having a pup again with Bobby is proving a lot tougher for us than just having Roxy so be warned :P
I see he's made in on to your signature already - the grass certainly doesn't grow with you - impulsive does't even come close...but I was the same, as soon as we had decided that was me off on one until we got Bobby :)
I have spent the last week contacting numerous breeders and researcing - we found the chosen breeder friday last week and done all the questioning - i done all the health checks etc and decided to go with them (i say them as we have the mums breeder and dads breeder both in contact with me and both wanting to keep in touch which is excellent :)
Yup he on the signature now hehe - no more than 2 at the one time though - this will be us :)
I really only done it as i will miss the puppy forum, and next year can enter puppy section in callander again :005: :005: just joking haha
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All i can say is Whhhhooooooo LUCKY you ....And shhhh Black is my favorite colour
you sound a bit like me once you have made your mind up... its all go,go ,go
I am soooo JEL
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Great news Charlene :banana: :banana: :D you and I are going to be mirror images lol. :005: I get my new baby Lola on the 5th Dec :luv:
She is going to be a Black + White after all - not Blue Roan. Like you I am buying allsorts - you are a bad influence lol but I am keeping quiet about it !! ;)
I am going to try to crate train Lola and have had the crate in position with a big Spot Dog in residence for a week just to get Lottie used to it being there. This waiting lark is so hard though !!
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Congratulations Charlene, you are sooooo lucky !!!! ..............I am not at all jealous ;) ;) ;)
Good luck with choosing your new little boy and please, please post pics when you get some :luv:
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Congratulations Charlene - how exciting! :happydance:
How lovely to have Riley to look forward to after Christmas - a lovely start to the New Year! Good luck with picking little Riley out - but I'm sure you'll just know when you see him!
It's lovely having two - a playmate for life!
Mandy x
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What a surprise - Not!
I would have been like you, once i decide on something i have to go for it :005:
I have a real soft spot for black dogs, when i went to look to choose a labrador i was going to have yellow, then fell in love with black again :luv:
I love having two dogs - there's always at least one demanding fuss and attenion. how you are going to wait 8 weeks though i really don't know.
congratulations
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me either it will feel like forever ! Just had another hour long conversation with breeder- she is lovely and i feel like i have known her for years !
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Sounds like you have found a really nice breeder Charlene. Not thinking of having another just yet, but maybe in a year or so.... just have to convince OH!! I understand that you can't put breeders details on here, but could you vaguely give me an idea of where this breeder is located, just for future reference ;)
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I shall certainly give you a pm :)
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Thanks Charlene!
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No problem lynn happy to help - i will give you a pm in a couple of weeks and give you an update on how the process has went :)
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:005: :005: lol next year??? I was getting Bingley next year too! :rofl1: Congratulations! Know just how you feel ;)
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Congratulations you sound so excited, at least it's not too long too wait, the time will fly round and soon enough your new little man will be home with you all :D
I'm really pleased for you and i bet diesel will love his new brother.
Angie x
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:005: :005: lol next year??? I was getting Bingley next year too! :rofl1: Congratulations! Know just how you feel ;)
Um yeah - has that not been a year since i said i wanted one ph34r :005: :005: :005: :shades:
Hehehe - i just couldnt resist :luv:
The breeder has text to say that i can have pick of the 5 when i go in a couple of weeks to pick Riley out :luv: :luv:
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Oooh Charlene how exciting! And a little black boy too - he'll look adorable with Diesel. And now a word of warning about black cockers - you can't see them in the dark!!! I had to buy Penny a flashing collar now the dark nights are in because she just doesn't show up!
I love the blacks - sometimes Penny looks as if she's been polished :luv: :luv: :luv:
Very happy for you
Di
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Congratulations :luv:
And adding to the last warning about seeing them in the dark, I've lost count of the number of times we've stepped on Charlie when he's lay on dark carpets in the house, especially when he's in the hall by the front door!
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We have new black sofas...and Roxy....you can imagine ;)
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How many boys and girls has she, what if you fall for a girl?? I am so exited for you BUT feel very broody :luv:
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Congratulations, I love the blacks :luv: :luv:
I think you're very brave, it feels like Quinn is still a puppy to me - just waiting for him to grow up :lol:
I'm not sure how you are going to pick out of 5 blacks, in Quinn's litter there were 7 blacks and you couldn't really tell them apart.
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I KNEW IT , I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT :005: :005: :005: :005: :005: , was just saying in your other post that it sounded like you were getting ready for a pup and you were like , "no not til next year " -------- right :rofl1: :rofl1:, you bought the bed, collar , lead, etc etc :005:, youve been FAR too excited IMHO :cool4: :cool4: :cool4: , love the name Riley too
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Yay, a new baby brother for Diesel! :banana:
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Yup thats why we went with black :)
Its so different this time round but i cant wait :)
So excited - Got everything i need for him already and just looking for a crate for the boot for them both
Breeder just sent me a lovely pic of mum as a pup (she is solid black also :luv:)
So cant wait to see him and pick him out :luv:
Me and breeder going to talk today so she can let me know of the process as its new to me with buying diesel at 13 weeks :005:
I can recommend these crates http://www.dogpods.com/ they're not the cheapest but they make the best of the space in your boot. I have a small boot but I had one of these made to fit two thirds, leaving a third free for shopping / school bags etc. The crates go up to the roof in the car too so my two can sit up and see out or curl up together to sleep. There are two arm holes on the front so that you can get your hands inside to clip and unclip leads and then a small gap at the bottom so you can pull the lead through so that when you open the door, if they should happen to jump out before you release them ( :shades:) you already have the lead in your hand. They do not rattle or make any sound at all either! I can't recommend them highly enough.
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How many boys and girls has she, what if you fall for a girl?? I am so exited for you BUT feel very broody :luv:
Luckily the litter is 5 boys no girls - well lucky in the way that I know I won't chose a girl an unlucky
In the way that I have to chose one boy out of 5 gorgeous ones lol
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Congratulations! :luv: Bet you can't wait now, look forward to hearing more and seeing some pictures of Riley soon :D Two cockers are definitely very fun and will keep you on your feet :005:
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Congratulations! :luv:
Can't wait to see pics of little Riley!
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where were 3 girls in Kira's litter, and rather than choose one i elimated the others (if you see what i mean). I still vouch that i picked the best of the litter and if I didnt then someone else as a really special girl as well :luv:
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I KNEW IT , I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT :005: :005: :005: :005: :005: , was just saying in your other post that it sounded like you were getting ready for a pup and you were like , "no not til next year " -------- right :rofl1: :rofl1:, you bought the bed, collar , lead, etc etc :005:, youve been FAR too excited IMHO :cool4: :cool4: :cool4: , love the name Riley too
Oooo Charlene you are going to have so much fun with 2 :luv: :luv: they will play together and wind you up together :005: they will totaly turn your life upside down, but in a very special way :luv: :luv: x x x
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Congratulations Charlene :banana: :clapdance: :banana: I am so envious ;) Have fun planning and anticipating your new arrival :005:
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Haha you all know me to well hehe :-) the OH Is also very excited lol which I didn't expect - will get a create ordered this week for the car so that diesel will get used to it - and behave in it lol just now he howls the car down if he is put in the boot when muddy :005:
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just read your post oh my doG, you dont waste time do ya girl? lol U will have to holiday in this country next year and take the pupsters with ya ;) ;) congrats xxxx
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I know but hey I wasn't too keen on going abroad and leaving diesel anyway :005:
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Bet you could get a nice doggie friendly b and b or a static caravan somewhere the dogs would love it. We take Willow camping and she loves it :D :D
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Pet passport much easier from Jan :)
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That news is about as unexpected as Frankie Coccozas demise from x factor :005: Congratulations. Looking forward to seeing photos of your new addition.
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Charlene, Poppy and Lucy's dad say you are MAD. :lol2:
Hope to cu Hermitage then when you see what my two are like you might change your mind. :005:
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Oh if only I had had the courage to put on a bet lol ;)...still the odds for you not waiting would not have been great would they
Congratulations...oh and btw you can still enjoy the puppy board when pups get too big.....I do!! :banana:
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ooh.....black and white and solid black 'orrible combination :005:
congratulaions
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Should have know you wouldn't wait long, he he :005:
Congratulations on the new puppy :luv: :luv:
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Charlene, Poppy and Lucy's dad say you are MAD. :lol2:
Hope to cu Hermitage then when you see what my two are like you might change your mind. :005:
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Defo will be there i love the walks :luv: hehe
ooh.....black and white and solid black 'orrible combination :005:
congratulaions
:005: :005: haha i know i dont know what possessed me :shades: :005:
Your two are just adorable together :luv:
That news is about as unexpected as Frankie Coccozas demise from x factor :005: Congratulations. Looking forward to seeing photos of your new addition.
:rofl1: :rofl1: haha thats so true
Bet you could get a nice doggie friendly b and b or a static caravan somewhere the dogs would love it. We take Willow camping and she loves it :D :D
Will defo be looking into it cause it will be sooo much fun :) hehe
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I have to say I am shocked that a breeder would reserve a puppy at birth, so much can go wrong in the first few weeks, you could lose the whole litter :-\.
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I have to say I am shocked that a breeder would reserve a puppy at birth, so much can go wrong in the first few weeks, you could lose the whole litter :-\.
A pup from the litter has been reserved for me although i have not picked a puppy yet from the litter until they are 3 weeks +
She oviously made me aware that them being so young there could be issues that may arise with them being newborns but she has no others on waiting lists for the pups and i guess thats why she didnt mind?
A few people on here have mentioned that they have reserved their pups at a couple of days old.
I didnt think there was anything wrong with it :huh:
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I have to say I am shocked that a breeder would reserve a puppy at birth, so much can go wrong in the first few weeks, you could lose the whole litter :-\.
I didnt think there was anything wrong with it :huh:
There isn't anything wrong with that. If you've paid a deposit, the breeder would be obligated to return it to you if anything happened. That aside, you have first choice of the litter which is great (although it can be hard to choose one from that many). Personally, I would ask the breeder if I could make a choice when the pups were around 4-6 weeks old. The characters will be a bit more developed, but it's up to you of course.
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I have to say I am shocked that a breeder would reserve a puppy at birth, so much can go wrong in the first few weeks, you could lose the whole litter :-\.
I didnt think there was anything wrong with it :huh:
There isn't anything wrong with that. If you've paid a deposit, the breeder would be obligated to return it to you if anything happened. That aside, you have first choice of the litter which is great (although it can be hard to choose one from that many). Personally, I would ask the breeder if I could make a choice when the pups were around 4 weeks old. The characters will be a bit more developed, but it's up to you of course.
Yeah thats what i thought :) she said that she will take deposit when i come to chose so that the pups are older and everything guarenteed ok so i guess thats the right thing to do :)
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Sounds fair enough to me! As the breeder hasn't taken a deposit from you yet, just make sure you still have first choice of the litter though.
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She not taken deposit as they are so young - She said that she would take deposit at 2 weeks and then i could chose one at 3-4 weeks as she generally allows you to pick at 4 weeks+
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She not taken deposit as they are so young - She said that she would take deposit at 2 weeks and then i could chose one at 3-4 weeks as she generally allows you to pick at 4 weeks+
Very fair and I would be happy with that!
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I didnt think there was anything wrong with it :huh:
Not wrong as such but like Cayley says, newborn pups are quite vulnerable and I guess a lot of breeders (like me) would feel it's tempting fate to reserve so early (having experienced it when things do go wrong) Anyway, glad you're happy - don't envy you having to pick from a litter of solid blacks at only 4 weeks though :D
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I reserved Ollie before he was even born! I'd met the breeder and her dogs while the btich was pregnant. We had decided on a boy, and hoped we would get a boy in the litter! I got a call once the pups were born, he was the only boy. Obviously we knew something could go wrong but thankfully it didn't. We went to see the pups at 4-5 weeks and put our deposit down, Ollie came home at 7 weeks and 5 days old :luv:
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She not taken deposit as they are so young - She said that she would take deposit at 2 weeks and then i could chose one at 3-4 weeks as she generally allows you to pick at 4 weeks+
You are going to pay a deposit at 2 weeks before even seeing the litter? What would happen if you weren't happy with the litter, or if something should happen to the litter? 2 weeks is way too young things can and sometimes do still wrong.
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She not taken deposit as they are so young - She said that she would take deposit at 2 weeks and then i could chose one at 3-4 weeks as she generally allows you to pick at 4 weeks+
You are going to pay a deposit at 2 weeks before even seeing the litter? What would happen if you weren't happy with the litter, or if something should happen to the litter? 2 weeks is way too young things can and sometimes do still wrong.
No not without seeing the litter, i have done alot or research and of course read up on here of exactly what i need to do - I understand that i have to see mum and pups etc before putting down a deposit - Im not going to blindly put down a deposit on a litter i have not seen and to be honest if a breeder asked me to provide a deposit before seeing the litter i would not be happy about it.
Im allowed to view litter and mum at 2 weeks ( to see if happy with mum and breeder and litter ) if i want to leave deposit that early she doesnt mind, i then go back at 4 weeks to choose one from the litter once they are a bit more lively, - If there was anything to happen to the litter before 8 weeks breeder advised she would fully refund ! I am not putting a deposit on a pup i havent even seen, i wouldnt put a deposit on anythinhg that i havent seen that is that important !!
She prefers you to pick at 4 weeks as she wants to make sure that its not a case of 'sorry your one died' if something happens under 4 weeks if you know what i mean but she does allow to view litter and mum (no touching etc) at 2 weeks. As i said before she has no waiting list or any enquiries aand as i am the only potential buyer at the moment she does not mind taking my deposit earlier to secure 1 of the litter
Its so much more easier just buying them over 8 weeks cause this is soo blooming confusing as to what i am supposed to do in the process :huh: :huh: can someone please advise me what it the correct thing to do i.e when to deposit or when to pick a pup ?
I honestly dont understand what im doing wrong ......
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I reserved Vegas on the day of the mating :005:
Congratulations on your new pup :luv: If you were wanting to show Riley, then it would be advisable to leave it closer to the 8 weeks before picking him (probably with the breeders help) but if not, I think you get a good idea of their personality & character around about the 5/6 week mark. With Vegas, I had pick of the boys so I picked him at 2 weeks old, went back to see them at 5 weeks and you were able to see which ones were a bit shy, which were a bit bolshy etc.
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I reserved Vegas on the day of the mating :005:
Congratulations on your new pup :luv: If you were wanting to show Riley, then it would be advisable to leave it closer to the 8 weeks before picking him (probably with the breeders help) but if not, I think you get a good idea of their personality & character around about the 5/6 week mark. With Vegas, I had pick of the boys so I picked him at 2 weeks old, went back to see them at 5 weeks and you were able to see which ones were a bit shy, which were a bit bolshy etc.
Thank goodness someone has done the same thing :005: i was beginning to think i was getting it wrong lol
No not for showing just as a house pet :) The whole litter is boys - no girls in the litter and thank you for putting my mind at rest :luv:
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It's your money and potentially, your puppy, if you are happy with the arrangements than that is just fine ;)
FWIW I would only pay a deposit when you have seen mum, pups, and you are happy :D
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i would never pay a deposit without seeing the pup - I dont think i eplained it very well prev - when i said deposit at 2 weeks and chose one at 4 i just assumed everyone would know that that meant i was going to see the litter - was my fault for not explaining properly
ph34r
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When we went to view Toby's litter (all blacks) at 2 weeks old, (and Mum of course) we were third in line to pick out of 4 dogs. We obviously didn't know then which two would be available but as we were happy with everything, we left a deposit there and then. We saw them again at 4 weeks and at 6 weeks, by which time we knew which 2 were available and made our choice then. The only problem was for the breeder in trying to get the timing right according to who was first, second etc because we couldn't pick until the two in front of us had.
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When we went to view Toby's litter (all blacks) at 2 weeks old, (and Mum of course) we were third in line to pick out of 4 dogs. We obviously didn't know then which two would be available but as we were happy with everything, we left a deposit there and then. We saw them again at 4 weeks and at 6 weeks, by which time we knew which 2 were available and made our choice then. The only problem was for the breeder in trying to get the timing right according to who was first, second etc because we couldn't pick until the two in front of us had.
Well she has said that i will get the pick of the 5 as i am first to enquire and ask to reserve one so thats not to bad if putting down deposit at 2 weeks means i secure first pick - But like you its a litter of all blacks :005:
So it could be difficult lol and they are all males so its not like i have a process of elimination i.e eliminate the girls first haha
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It took us ages to pick from two - it would have been a nightmare picking from five :005: But in all honesty, I immediately took a shine to one of the boys who had been chosen but obviously couldn't have him. You might find the same thing or it could take all day :005:
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I got Lottie from a litter of 10 pups, and had the pick of the 6 (all black) that were not reserved yet. It was so hard but in the end
she really picked me! :005:
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I spoke to Penny's breeder before the pups were born. She had two pregnant girls and as I wanted a girl we agreed that if there was a 'spare' girl born i.e. one that the breeder didn't want to keep herself, she could be mine. It was a nerve wracking wait but when she phoned me and offered me Penny I was over the moon. Sadly, Penny's wee litter-mate didn't make it, so it was brought home to me how vulnerable new-born pups are.
I was like you, Charlene, in a fever of excitement, and hoping against hope Penny would be okay because there wasn't another pup available. I even went as far as phoning another breeder just in case Penny didn't make it! But happily she did :luv:
Although I didn't have a choice, I went to meet her a couple of times - loved the kennels, liked the breeder, and those waiting weeks were the slowest EVER!
I think I gave the breeder the deposit on the first visit.
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Surely plenty of reputable breeders essentially have their pups "reserved" long before birth - we're always advising people that it can take a long time to find a good breeder as they often have waiting lists long before the actual mating takes place...
I'm not sure why there's an issue about Charlene having one of the five (the exact one to be selected later) black boys reserved for her...
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Charlene you are doing nothing "wrong" at all, gosh it seems it is an emotive subject though doesn't it? ph34r
With our Tia we visited and reserved her at 2 weeks old.
With our new boy Jake, we verbally reserved him at about 5 days old (this was the same breeder and the same parents as Tia) I sent a cheque in the post for a deposit (I was not asked, I volunteered this) we obviously already knew the breeder, had built up a relationship and trusted them. The breeder chose him for us out of the two chocolate boys (we wanted a chocolate boy) and I trusted their decision.
We were fully aware both times that things can "go wrong", with Tia she was the last one to be reserved in the litter. But with Jake there were still other pups unreserved for a while so I guess we would have chosen another one, as it happened they were originally a litter of 7 but they sadly lost a little girl in the first 24 hours :'(
Both times we would have accepted it as fate and meant to be whatever happened,
It sounds to be like you have started to build up a great relationship with this breeder ;) I think sometimes it's difficult on a forum and statements can seem a tad blunt sometimes, I don't think anyone means to rain on your parade ;)
Bet you are counting the days to viewing them all :D
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I am really pleased that you are so excited about your new addition - personally I think you are mad! ph34r :005: but then I don't think I am as dedicated a cocker owner as most on here are!
(BTW - and I am not trying to pour cold water on your excitement - have you done plenty of research about handling an adolescent pup and an 8 week old in the same household? I have no experience at all and I know plenty on here do, that's all)
The best of British to you - 8 weeks will fly by!
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Surely plenty of reputable breeders essentially have their pups "reserved" long before birth - we're always advising people that it can take a long time to find a good breeder as they often have waiting lists long before the actual mating takes place...
I'm not sure why there's an issue about Charlene having one of the five (the exact one to be selected later) black boys reserved for her...
Perhaps its because the Breeder hasn't actually met Charlene :-\
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Surely plenty of reputable breeders essentially have their pups "reserved" long before birth - we're always advising people that it can take a long time to find a good breeder as they often have waiting lists long before the actual mating takes place...
Nobody is trying to rain on anyone's parade or saying there's an issue as such - just giving a tiny reality check about the vulnerability of newborn litters and the risks of firmly reserving pups this age, especially when breeder and future new owner haven't even met yet. I don't actually think there are many breeders who "reserve" puppies long before birth - what breeders might do is draw up a list of potentially interested puppy seekers before the birth but that's not the same as reserving pups. It's an emotive subject and even breeders won't agree on everything eg I don't see the point in letting people visit a litter at 2 weeks old because pups barely have their eyes open at that age and will be sleeping most of the time but other breeders like Charlene's obviously feel differently, c'est la vie.
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I can see where you all are coming from and it's good to get breeders inputs also
Although we haven't met yet she has drilled me as such about me my partner our situation our house and diesels temprement and seemed happy enough with our arrangement of our home and hours and current dog - I think that due to me gettin to know the studs breeder also and her confirming that she also would be happy to sell a pup to me meant that she had a second opinion of me (all be it over the phone) - she did say that it is best to pick one when litter 4 weeks but to one down to meet her and the mum and so that I can see I I would be happy with her and the mum. We have had about 3 or 4 hour plus conversations which is more than we had with diesel breeder - we were asked no questions.
She has said that she is happy to sell me a pup with the conversations and questions answered and that I will have pick of the litter when I go down when I decide o choose which pup all be it at 2 weeks or the recommended 4 weeks - I automatically took a shine to her after our first 1 hour convo as it seems she did me - we talked about lots of different things. Also I have said that I would also visit the studs breeder with the pup and diesel as I also took a shine to her. Like I say I am happy for any feedback - and appreciate it :-)
Diesel has been a great pup and still is - he never has chewed the furniture was excellent with toilet training all his training seems to be great and both me and other half are in this together. Diesel has been am easy puppy to deal with and I know that having 2 may be difficult but I am extrememly dedicated as is OH - we have spoke about having the two so young and also spoke with the breeder(s) about this also. They seem to be happy with the way we plan on dealing with it and that we are not going into it blindly - I do understand that some people don't agree with getting 2 so close together and I'm sure there will be times that I'll put up a post for issues that I come across with two where some will say told you so :005: but our animals will always be for life and I would never consider a second one if I thought that we couldn't cope with it
As Jane said you are all only trying to ensure I know what I'm letting myself in for - the exact reason I joined this site if for advice all be it for the good comments and the ones that may seem to 'rain on my parade' If you know what I mean :luv:
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And now a word of warning about black cockers - you can't see them in the dark.
Ha, ha I don't think you are joking. My Lucy is a dark blue roan and her daughter is a light blue. I was out with my pal Rob and Bria his golden lab and my two along the Clyde Valley and it was getting dark. I said to Rob " I have lost Lucy" as I could only see the other two.
But there she was up the path looking back thinking "Why is that idiot shouting my name, I'm here". She just does merge into the background. :005: A solid black must be impossible to see at night. :lol2:
I wonder if these flashing led collars are any good? :huh:
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Surely plenty of reputable breeders essentially have their pups "reserved" long before birth - we're always advising people that it can take a long time to find a good breeder as they often have waiting lists long before the actual mating takes place...
I'm not sure why there's an issue about Charlene having one of the five (the exact one to be selected later) black boys reserved for her...
Perhaps its because the Breeder hasn't actually met Charlene :-\
That is what's worrying me :-\.
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I am so pleased for you Charlene and can't wait to see pictures of Riley.
I found Ellie on the day that she was born, in that 'a puppy was reserved for me' and I was to have first choice when the breeder let us go to see them at 5 weeks. There were blue and orange roans in the litter, I wanted a blue roan just like Sophie who we had just lost, OH wanted an orange roan and the breeder wanted me to have an orange roan as she thought I would be comparing if I had another blue roan. The breeder was so lovely she said I didn't have to make my mind up until I saw the puppies. She made my mind up for me by meeting us at the end of their lane with a gorgeous orange roan of hers (she did tell me she did it deliberately). Ellie is orange roan.
Stock up on your thermals for potty training. We brought Ellie home on the 30th December, the day she was 8 weeks old. The breeder had sent her home with a little fleece jacket which was a godsend as it was freezing cold. Have to say when I look at the jacket now I can't believe Ellie was ever small enough to wear it. She loved that jacket. And she loved the garden. She had the free run of it from day one and as she was snuggly warm in her fleece it was nothing for her to be out there for up to an hour. Conversations with OH ran like this: 'It's your turn now, no it's not I did the last one, no you did not I did, well I have to go out now, well if I do it will you keep bringing me hot drinks'. We were so muffled up when we were out there we would have bounced if we had fallen over. Ellie, she thought it was great.
Will there be some way of identifying Riley when you choose him. I only say this as I know someone who bought a black labrador puppy. She went to choose him at about 4 or 5 weeks and then went back for him at 8 weeks. The puppies all looked identical and when she went to bring him home she asked the breeder how she knew which were the ones people had chosen. The breeder owned up that she didn't, she just made a note who wanted a boy and who wanted a girl, then when they came for them she gave them a boy or a girl.
Wishing you many many years of happiness with Riley and Diesel. I walk next door's golden cocker and her and my orange roan look lovely together. Just like your two will.
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The breeder text me tonight to let me know pups are all doing great and that they all have little soft colleges collars so she can tell them apart :-)
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Cayley - can I ask how it worries you - just curious sorry :-\
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Oooooh errrrrr this thread has gone quite strange :shades:
I didn't pick Quinn, he was born and he was mine before I'd met any of the litter, he was the only gold boy so I didn't have to choose. I wouldn't say there is anything wrong with having a puppy reserved at all - I'd been waiting absolutely ages for a gold boy and was promised he was mine if he was right for us.
With Indie I had pick of the girls and I hadn't met the breeder until we went to view.
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with regards the black dogs in the dark - the flashing collars work fine.
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I have a flashing led little beacon thing that can be seen a mile away that is fitted onto the collar :-) it can be seen up to a mile away :-)
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Don't need a light for Tobes, his teeth stick out a mile in the dark, that's all you can see :rofl1:
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Don't need a light for Tobes, his teeth stick out a mile in the dark, that's all you can see :rofl1:
Awe bless :005:
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Cayley - can I ask how it worries you - just curious sorry :-\
We question people over the phone to see whether they should visit, then if both parties are happy they get a puppy, sadly people aren't always as they seem so you have to be extra careful that's all :blink:.
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Oh my word you must be a gluton for punishment ;)
Riley is a lovely name. Hope it all goes well and Diesel loves him too when you get him!
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Cayley - can I ask how it worries you - just curious sorry :-\
We question people over the phone to see whether they should visit, then if both parties are happy they get a puppy, sadly people aren't always as they seem so you have to be extra careful that's all :blink:.
Just to give you another example Charlene....a few years ago we had a really nice lady enquire by telephone & after a very long conversation she was invited to come & visit a puppy. So far so good. When she arrived with her husband i saw a different side to the potential home for the puppy. :'( Although the lady was very pleasant, her husband wasn't :embarassed: He had this attitude he was doing me a favour, which is so utterly wrong :o (most people that have bred will tell you how protective you become with them :luv:) & to top it all he handled the puppy quite roughly :'( >:( There was no way in this world i would have let the puppy go to that home. It is so totally different when having tele. conversations to actually meeting people & observing they way they interact with your own dogs & puppies. :shades: :D As Cayley said people aren't always as they seem. ;)
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Charlene I'm so happy for you. :bigarmhug:
If you take my advice you'll wait to pick the puppy as long as possible and then let HIM pick you! That's the way I've always picked my dogs in the past, and given the opportunity I wouldn't do it any other way.
Someone who wants to show would be looking for different things, but for a pet the important thing is that the dog loves you as much as you love him, and getting the one that shows the most interest in you is a sure way of knowing., and with you having the pick of the litter it should be easy peasy. ;)
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Congratulations to everyone.
Another one ticking the days down :shades: