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Title: Hello
Post by: anne on May 01, 2006, 06:44:49 PM
hi my name is anne and am also a new member. not really sure how to get round this site but hope this is a good start. i live in aberdeenshire and am 40 something. i have a 3 month old black cocker called millie and she is absolutely adorable. she is not completly black as she has a white patch on her neck. when i figure out how to pop in photo i will post one. i am at the moment waiting for baby number 2 who is 4 wks old at the moment so going for first visit in 2 wks. can't wait. i just adore my baby and as you all probably do, she is spoilt rotten and totally the boss. she is the class swot at pupopy playgroup and such a show off. hope to get to know as much of you as possible. bye for now anne
Title: Re: hello
Post by: Colin on May 01, 2006, 08:48:51 PM
Hi Anne and welcome to the forum. I've given your post it's own thread as it might have got lost where you posted it.  :blink:

I hate to sound negative, especially as it's your first post, but do you think it's a good idea to be adding a new pup when your current one is still only 3 months old ? The usual advice is to wait until your first dog has reached maturity - Millie sounds like a wee angel but things can quickly change when they hit adolesence, as many of us on here have found out. A reptuable breeder would normally be reluctant to home a puppy to a household with an existing young pup, unless the new owner had a lot of experience with dogs. You might find this article from our Cocker Questions section useful ...

http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=2017.0

I look forward to seeing photos of Millie.  :blink:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Woody's Mum on May 01, 2006, 08:50:12 PM
Hello and welome to COL   :D

Look forward to seeing piccies
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Annette on May 01, 2006, 08:56:47 PM
Hi and welcome to COL

I share Colin's views on getting number two so soon! I think you will have your hands very full.

Look forward to seeing photos of Millie soon!
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: JoanneM on May 01, 2006, 09:21:28 PM
Hi Anne, welcome to the site its sooo addictive!!  :lol:

Have you picked a name for your new pup yet?
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: anne on May 01, 2006, 09:34:59 PM
have plenty of time and patience for another one and don't mind the hard work. haven't thought of a name yet. sometimes you need to see the puppy first. millies name was just pefect for her. i can unddrstand reluctance to have 2 so close together but a little hard work and love and patience will hopefully see me through. if not there will be a lot of heeeeeeeelp messages posted here.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Cayley on May 01, 2006, 10:01:29 PM
Hello and welcome  :D.


Title: Re: Hello
Post by: flozac on May 01, 2006, 11:15:25 PM
have plenty of time and patience for another one and don't mind the hard work. haven't thought of a name yet. sometimes you need to see the puppy first. millies name was just pefect for her. i can unddrstand reluctance to have 2 so close together but a little hard work and love and patience will hopefully see me through. if not there will be a lot of heeeeeeeelp messages posted here.

I keep saying this but I have never had a problem with 2 puppies together. Maybe I am just lucky. But I actually find 2 puppies easier than one. The last two I had together were Zac and Sophie there was only 5 weeks between them. They were just absolutley fab together. Zac started his obedience training about 2months before Sophie then when he graduated to the next level I started Sophie. However she was so quick to learn she soon joined him and they ended up doing some things togetherbut they would behave fine individually.

I never had a night of crying from either of them. Never a thing chewed that shouldn't have been and no squabbling. Sophie was house trained in double quick time 'cos she followed ZAc. They had an excellent bond together but they did not fail to bond with me and did as I asked them when I asked them.

The only problem i had was Zac greiving when Soph died. One of the reasons for getting Floss so quickly.

ZAC & SOPHIE

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/grannynic/P1010036.jpg)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: MrsMac on May 02, 2006, 09:18:58 AM
Welcome to COL, look forward to seeing your pics once you're more familiar with the forum  :D

I'm in Inverness and have a 6 month old blue roan girlie called Melody. 
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Nicola on May 02, 2006, 10:01:53 AM
Hi and welcome to COL

Millie sounds lovely  :luv: but I have to admit I agree with Colin with regards to having two puppies at the same time..

I live in Edinburgh and I'm owned by Alfie, a 4 month old blue roan working cocker who keeps me busy enough at the moment!!
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: happydog on May 02, 2006, 01:36:52 PM
Hi and welcome to COL. I have a working cocker called Fern who is nearly 7 years old. Before her we had had two springer pups from the same litter. Something else which is supposed to be inadvisable  ph34r. Yes it is hard work - especially with training - as you need to do some of it individually. They did have the occasional spat for top dog position during adolescence -being the same age and sex, but we left them to sort it out between themselves. We couldn't have wished for a better pair of dogs in the end.  :angel:  :angel:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: janey on May 02, 2006, 01:38:59 PM
hi anne and welcome.we have molly, she is black and will be 11 weeks young tomorrow.look forward to seeing pics of millie  :D
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Colin on May 02, 2006, 01:55:56 PM
I keep saying this but I have never had a problem with 2 puppies together. Maybe I am just lucky. But I actually find 2 puppies easier than one. The last two I had together were Zac and Sophie there was only 5 weeks between them.

Have you had pairs of young pups together several times then ? If so, was the experience as easy as it was with Zac and Sophie ?

Although I've never owned 2 pups together ( and would never dream of doing so) I have met a few people who have - in all cases they had difficulties with training and fighting. There was a pair of Working Cocker litter brothers at Misty's training classes that both ended up in rescue - in one of their fights one dog lost an eye and half an ear.  :-\

Anne - if you decide to go ahead with getting the second pup I really hope it works out for you. I also hope the breeder will spend some time with you going over the possible difficulties you may face and offer on-going support and backup if things don't turn out as well as you hope .  :blink:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Elisa on May 02, 2006, 02:05:49 PM
Welcome to COL.  :D
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: flozac on May 02, 2006, 02:34:21 PM
I keep saying this but I have never had a problem with 2 puppies together. Maybe I am just lucky. But I actually find 2 puppies easier than one. The last two I had together were Zac and Sophie there was only 5 weeks between them.

Have you had pairs of young pups together several times then ? If so, was the experience as easy as it was with Zac and Sophie ?

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Yes we have and yes it was OK. I gave Zac  & Sophie  as an example ' cos they were my most recent.

We had 2 Cairn terrier pups Pepi and Pippa, little sisters they rubbed along very nicely. We got them at 8 weeks old by accident as Pip was bought by my gran and she couldn't cope with a puppy. So we took her on  a week later and she  settled quite quickly. They lived to a ripe old age and were very happy and placid. My Mum has Yorkies and she got Sam and Jeni within 6 months of each other and they were fine, she only had problems when she got Josh 2 yrs later and he and Sam didn't get on well and had the odd scrap. I think it was a dominance thing.

I can also say my next door neighbour has Fin and Tash, 2 Jap Spitz who they got at about the same time as Zac and Soph with approx the same age gap. They were great too. They also went to the same training class as Zac and Soph although Fin did better than Tash. They have since had a litter of puppies together of which Fin was a little jealous as they grew. As soon as they went to new homes they were  back to being best buddies.

So yes I beleive it does work, as I have never had a bad experience. Of course you have to be prepared for some hard work as you do with any pup. Maybe it depends on how you approach the situation, or just the puppies' involved temprements. Again all dogs and owners are different some may work some may not. I can only speak from experience and I am an experienced  family pet dog owner,not a trainer or a breeder. I have had dogs around me for 40+ years as a child and adult and I can only speak from personal experience.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: CraftySam on May 02, 2006, 02:51:51 PM
Hi Anne

Welcome to COL.

I have a black lab, Sapphi, a golden retriever Max and cocker puppy Barney arrives in 9 days!

I'm afraid I'd agree with Colin, but it has to be your decision.  

Every dog is different.  Sapphi was like Millie, a smartypants at puppy class and so obedient until .... adolescence. She was always a lively puppy and always on the go but as I said obedient, quick to learn and walked beautifully on the lead.  In adolenscence she was still very lively but less willing to do as asked and pulled so badly on the lead.  She was a little trying shall we say! ;)
I waited until she was almost two before I felt I could get another dog.
Max however is a totally different kettle of fish.  He has always been laid back and really calm even as a young puppy. Don't get me wrong, he gets excited when playing with Sapphi and the other puppies but he's certainly not over the top.  He did well a puppy class but certainly wasn't the class smartypants.  He steadily got better and better at obedience.
I took advice from my trainer who knows both Sapphi and Max about the right time to get another puppy,  (which will be the last! :D). She agreed that Max was mature enough now but there would have been no way I'd have got another when Sapphi was just 1. That would have been a nightmare.

So, as I said every dog is different.  I hope it does all work out for you, and I'd love to see pictures of Millie.

Good luck and keep us posted. ;)

 
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: anne on May 02, 2006, 07:06:15 PM
hi anne and welcome.we have molly, she is black and will be 11 weeks young tomorrow.look forward to seeing pics of millie  :D


might take a while as not very computer literate. if i could get someone to give instructions not techno speak that would be great. have some great pictures
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: happydog on May 02, 2006, 07:09:02 PM
Have you got photographs or some piccies in your computer?
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: anne on May 02, 2006, 07:18:40 PM
Have you got photographs or some piccies in your computer?
yeah always transfer them on when i take them.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: sharesy on May 02, 2006, 09:05:17 PM
Hi, We have a black cocker called Kalli, she is 5 months old.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: anne on May 02, 2006, 09:13:53 PM
Hi, We have a black cocker called Kalli, she is 5 months old.
hi. great site. just finding my way round. trying unsuccessfully to get photos downloaded. doesn't help when the computer era passed you by. keep trying though. anne
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: happydog on May 02, 2006, 10:22:22 PM
Have you got photographs or some piccies in your computer?
yeah always transfer them on when i take them.
Go to the Main Forum page ('Home'- top lh corner of any forum page) then Photos then Help and Assistance. You will see a Help with Photos thread(by Stueymac)which should guide you through it.
Basically you first need an internet based site like Photobucket (a lot of people on here seem to use that one), save them to that and then copy and paste the url info into your post. The thread above will explain it in more detail. Post back here if you get stuck.
Hint. It's best to resize your photos on your computer and save them as a duplicate of your original before you put them in Photobucket as it doesn't always reduce them as you expect and if they end up too small you cant increase the size again. The max size allowed is in the thread above. Theres also a Test area for posting photos first so you can practise (see the Home Page again)

Good luck.   :blink: It does get easier and this is a complete technophobe speaking!  :005:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: anne on May 03, 2006, 12:49:49 PM
Have you got photographs or some piccies in your computer?
yeah always transfer them on when i take them.
Go to the Main Forum page ('Home'- top lh corner of any forum page) then Photos then Help and Assistance. You will see a Help with Photos thread(by Stueymac)which should guide you through it.
Basically you first need an internet based site like Photobucket (a lot of people on here seem to use that one), save them to that and then copy and paste the url info into your post. The thread above will explain it in more detail. Post back here if you get stuck.
Hint. It's best to resize your photos on your computer and save them as a duplicate of your original before you put them in Photobucket as it doesn't always reduce them as you expect and if they end up too small you cant increase the size again. The max size allowed is in the thread above. Theres also a Test area for posting photos first so you can practise (see the Home Page again)

Good luck.   :blink: It does get easier and this is a complete technophobe speaking!  :005:
thanks will give it a try. had already transferred photos to photobucket.bigger technophobe than you.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: anne on May 03, 2006, 09:10:36 PM
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/wilsongolfer/c46f1818.jpg)  not sure if this has worked properly or not. this should be millie. anne
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Colin on May 03, 2006, 09:51:40 PM

She's a real beauty Anne, with such a soft, gentle expression.  :shades: I still think you should be a bit more patient when it comes to getting her a canine companion though - but I would imagine that you've probably already guessed that by now.  ;)  :lol:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: anne on May 03, 2006, 10:19:35 PM
hi colin. understand concerns. not kidding myself it will be easy. lucky at moment as she is so well behaved and responds really well to training. no mess in house for wks and no chewing anything that she shouldn't. maybe calm before the storm but take each day as it comes. going to see puppies a wk on sat so we will take it from there.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: sharesy on May 03, 2006, 10:25:38 PM
Millies a real cutie. :luv:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: happydog on May 03, 2006, 11:24:33 PM
Yaaay you did it!  :D Well done. Millie looks absolutely gorgeous.  :blink:  Want to cuddle her!!  :luv:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: flozac on May 03, 2006, 11:27:18 PM
She is lovely a pretty little girl
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: anne on May 03, 2006, 11:54:27 PM
Yaaay you did it!  :D Well done. Millie looks absolutely gorgeous.  :blink:  Want to cuddle her!!  :luv:
: :D bit on the big side but have now downsized them on my computer so next time if i can remember what i did ha ha they should be a tad smaller. was getting ready to throw computer out window  :005: :005: :005:
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Rhona W on May 04, 2006, 12:30:49 AM
Hi Anne
Welcome to COL. We are fairly new too. We are the proud owners of 12 week old brothers - the black one called Casper looks just like Millie. ( I'm still waiting for my son to show me how to post photos!) His brother is gold and called Reuben.
We have also been told getting brothers was a bad idea and gold dogs have a viscious streak!
We'll just have to work hard with them and hope for the best.
Good luck with your puppies.
Rhona
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: anne on May 04, 2006, 07:21:17 PM
hi rhona. think we will take the chance. i'm lucky cos i'm at home all day so can give them plenty of attention. we are going to see the new puppy a week on sat so we will take millie with us and see what happens. i just fiddled about myself till i managed the photo thing as waiting for my son to show me could have seen millie a pensioner. good luck with your two and just take each day as it comes.
anne