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Cocker Specific Discussion => Puppies => Topic started by: Hurtwood Dogs on November 21, 2007, 04:41:10 PM
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Dave's body parts seem to have grown at different rates and times. This week, his back has got longer but his legs haven't ph34r PLEASE tell me I'm not going to end up with an extra hairy sausage dog? He's 6 months in one week (thanks Kay!) can anyone tell me when they generally stop growing?
Thanks
Hannah x
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Rodaidh is a year in December and he is a bit of an odd shape, I posted about it earlier as I was measuring him for a Mekuti jumper last night and kept thinking 'well that can't be right'. He looks much smaller than the other two as he's much more finely built than them (not that that's difficult, I've seen hippos who are more finely built than Tilly ph34r) but he's got really long lanky legs and he's as long in the back as Alfie (who is long!) but Alfie is a much 'bigger' dog than him :huh: He has thankfully mostly grown into his skin now as he had far too much of it to begin with and looked like a shar pei but he still pretty much looks like a 6 month old puppy.
So if you have an extra hairy sausage dog then I have a sausage dog on stilts... maybe we could start a travelling show :shades: :lol:
'freaky puppy? where???' :005:
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa141/workingcockers/IMG_2628.jpg)
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So if you have an extra hairy sausage dog then I have a sausage dog on stilts... maybe we could start a travelling show :shades: :lol:
Heh heh good plan (then I get to cuddle the gorgeous Rodaidh too :luv:) alternatively, I might make Dave straddle the ironing board and tie a brick to each leg for a week and see if that helps ph34r
Anyone remember when their cockers stopped growing?
Hannah x
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Rodaidh is a year in December and he is a bit of an odd shape, I posted about it earlier as I was measuring him for a Mekuti jumper last night and kept thinking 'well that can't be right'. He looks much smaller than the other two as he's much more finely built than them (not that that's difficult, I've seen hippos who are more finely built than Tilly ph34r) but he's got really long lanky legs and he's as long in the back as Alfie (who is long!) but Alfie is a much 'bigger' dog than him :huh: He has thankfully mostly grown into his skin now as he had far too much of it to begin with and looked like a shar pei but he still pretty much looks like a 6 month old puppy.
So if you have an extra hairy sausage dog then I have a sausage dog on stilts... maybe we could start a travelling show :shades: :lol:
'freaky puppy? where???' :005:
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa141/workingcockers/IMG_2628.jpg)
rodaidh will fill out big time in the next 6 months, i think his bone growing is almost at an end, now it's time for muscle...i had a finely built slim working cocker at a year but now he has muscled out he looks quite sturdy (but don't you fear, you can still play a tune on his ribs ;) )
maybe you're noticing it more cos he hasn't got as much coat as Alfie?
as for dave, he'll even out, I promise :luv: :luv: :luv:
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rodaidh will fill out big time in the next 6 months, i think his bone growing is almost at an end, now it's time for muscle...i had a finely built slim working cocker at a year but now he has muscled out he looks quite sturdy (but don't you fear, you can still play a tune on his ribs ;) )
maybe you're noticing it more cos he hasn't got as much coat as Alfie?
Nah, it's definitely cos he's a freaky puppy :lol: :lol: He's stopped growing upwards and lengthways in the last month or so so I know I'm just waiting for him to grow outwards a bit more and muscle up. Alfie was very similar although on a bigger, sturdier scale, he was really skinny this time last year when he was pretty much exactly the same age Ro is now whereas now he's almost 2 he's still skinny but very muscly along with it. I'll be glad if Ro doesn't end up quite as big as the other two though, two overgrown workers are enough for one house :005:
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Awww poor Rodaidhs ears will be burning. He is perfect the way he is, squidgy chops and all! He'll always look small beside Miss Fluffball and Mr Stretch! If you want him to look more butch just borrow Krumble... ;)
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Honey is now 9 months and i would say she has stopped growing now (hopefully!! ::))
She is the same size, if not bigger, than Molly who is 3 tomorrow - although Molly is a dot - but Honey looks lovely and grown up now, doesnt have her spangley legs anymore and her waistline looks perfect (if i do say so myself!! :005:)
Dave will deffinitely grow into his body soon and as for Rodaidh he is lovely Nicola - i thought he looked gorgeous when i met him at the Lakes!! :luv:
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Hey Hannah when is Dave's bday? I was sure he was a week older than Callie (you picked him up the week before we picked her up) and Callie is 6months next thursday...
Know what you mean about the growth being in different spurts though, Callie is in the Short but long phase :D
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Hey Hannah when is Dave's bday? I was sure he was a week older than Callie (you picked him up the week before we picked her up) and Callie is 6months next thursday...
Know what you mean about the growth being in different spurts though, Callie is in the Short but long phase :D
Ummmmmm.... hang on!
Right, dug his pedigree out now so I REALLY do know :005: 25th May (07 obviously!) he was born, I picked him up the day he was 8 weeks.. not impatient at all :005:
OMG!!!! That means he'll be exactly 6 months when he goes on his first COL meet.. this sunday the 25th Nov! :D :D :D
Is Callie short legs or short body at the mo? :005:
Hannah c
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Toby is :o 7 months now its gone so fast but i think his stopped growing now he just needs to mature.
It can depend on the lines aswell some lines take longer to grow ect
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We had to wait until the sunday after she was 8weeks to pick Callie up :) those extra days were sooo hard!
shes got short legs and a longish body :) also not sure if she's dark or light roan at the moment colour wise as she's in the middle... lightish bum... darkish middle bit... lightish shoulders and then her black head! almost stripes!
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Some time ago I went to a seminar on conformation and movement (part of the KC judging requirements) and the speaker explained that a dog grows from its feet upwards (think about it, puppy's always have big paws) and from the back end to the front, with the lower jaw being the last area of developement.
This lady had photo's of an Irish Setter pup through different stages of its growth and (by her own admission) in a couple of them it looked downright hideous and you thought it'd never make a show dog........ it went on to become a Show Champion and worthy of it too.
Not all dogs turn out quite the same, but as long as they've got a leg in each corner and are fit and well then I think ultimately that's all that matters. :003:
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Some time ago I went to a seminar on conformation and movement (part of the KC judging requirements) and the speaker explained that a dog grows from its feet upwards (think about it, puppy's always have big paws) and from the back end to the front, with the lower jaw being the last area of developement.
This lady had photo's of an Irish Setter pup through different stages of its growth and (by her own admission) in a couple of them it looked downright hideous and you thought it'd never make a show dog........ it went on to become a Show Champion and worthy of it too.
Not all dogs turn out quite the same, but as long as they've got a leg in each corner and are fit and well then I think ultimately that's all that matters. :003:
That's really interesting, thanks Michelle - also explains why Dave's lower puppy canines didn't fit in his mouth but as his adult ones have come through, his jaw has to have got wider and they've dropped into place nicely (phew!)
Bit concerned that if they grow from the bottom up, his legs have been missed out though! ph34r
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Some time ago I went to a seminar on conformation and movement (part of the KC judging requirements) and the speaker explained that a dog grows from its feet upwards (think about it, puppy's always have big paws) and from the back end to the front, with the lower jaw being the last area of developement.
This lady had photo's of an Irish Setter pup through different stages of its growth and (by her own admission) in a couple of them it looked downright hideous and you thought it'd never make a show dog........ it went on to become a Show Champion and worthy of it too.
Not all dogs turn out quite the same, but as long as they've got a leg in each corner and are fit and well then I think ultimately that's all that matters. :003:
that's really interesting, especially about way a dog grows...i knew jarv was fully grown when the very last nose wrinkle disappeared :'(
I love your last comment michele about what matters, that's so true ;)
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Bit concerned that if they grow from the bottom up, his legs have been missed out though! ph34r
Perhaps Dave needs to attend a seminar :005:
Halle's another one with little legs, she's only 14" at the shoulder, doesn't hinder my little pocket rocket though. :luv: :shades:
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sams 8 months and looks very gangly at the moment and has done for a few weeks. his legs are really skinny :005: but he is about the same height as most cockers we've seen around. i just think he needs to fill out-he still very much looks like a puppy :blink:
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I think I've got a sausage dog on stilts too...but at only 5 months I'd expect him to fill out quite a bit.
He's already a bit taller than a few fully grown cockers we've met and has a really long back so I think he's going to be a big boy.
His mum has a really long back too. I (perhaps incorrectly) put it down to the worker in them (mum is half working cocker).
Anyway, he's gorgoeous no matter what shape he is. But of course I'm biased!
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Hi Hannah
He's gorgeous, whatever he looks like! :luv:
I met up with some of Daisy's siblings this week, with the breeder for a reunion, which was lovely, and both Daisy's parents. She's now head and shoulders with her parents and the biggest puppy in the litter and the smallest puppy in the litter are identical in size now - you can't tell a difference. All of them are equal with their parents. So I reckon Daisy has stopped going up, and will just fill out. Some of the puppies in the litter seem to have longer spines than Daisy, but only by a very little.
They do come in all shapes and sizes, but they all seem to have those unmistakable cocker eyes...... absolutely deadly! :005:
Enjoy your COL meet on Sunday. And as it will be the half birthday, I think cake will be in order!! (Any excuse!)
Love
Kay
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Does having a puppy spayed or neuted effect growth?
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Does having a puppy spayed or neuted effect growth?
Oh no idea! I wouldn't want to do my pup until he was well over a year though as my 'gut feeling' is it would be better for him to be fully grown, but no idea of the facts...
Anyone???
Hannah x
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Does having a puppy spayed or neuted effect growth?
There is some research which suggests that early neutering can affect growth plates, particularly in large and giant breeds. Growth plates close between the ages of approx 9 to 18 months and this research showed that lack of sex hormones resulting from early neutering can prevent them from closing properly or delay their closure. However, by 'early' this means neutering done before or around 6 months of age, as is fairly common in the US. There is no evidence that early neutering stunts growth, in fact the effect on the growth plates actually means the opposite and the dog may end up slightly taller than 'normal'.
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Does having a puppy spayed or neuted effect growth?
There is no evidence that early neutering stunts growth, in fact the effect on the growth plates actually means the opposite and the dog may end up slightly taller than 'normal'.
WICKED!!!... I'll book him in tomorrow, might fix the short legs problem :005:
Hannah x
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sams 8 months and looks very gangly at the moment and has done for a few weeks. his legs are really skinny :005: but he is about the same height as most cockers we've seen around. i just think he needs to fill out-he still very much looks like a puppy :blink:
Harvey is exactly the same and he's about 8 months now, he also seems to be quite long in the back :-\ Like you said I think he just needs to fill out a bit more :luv:
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Just measured and Callie is 15 1/2inches in the back and 14 inches high, doesn't sound a lot does it lol but she looks a bit funny :Dand she was rather wriggly so she might even just look odd and the measurements are wrong!
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This week Dave's back legs have definitely grown... but not the front ones :P So it's like someone has jacked up the back end and forgotten to do the front. He's such a weirdo, but now the perfect design for sniffing and trotting along - like one of those American cars with big wheels at the back and little ones at the front.. ::) Maybe that show career is not on the cards afterall :005:
COME ON FRONT LEGS... GROW!!!!! RIGHT THIS MINUTE!!!!
Hannah xxx
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like one of those American cars with big wheels at the back and little ones at the front.. ::) Maybe that show career is not on the cards afterall :005:
You'll have to rename him Dave The Dragster :005:
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like one of those American cars with big wheels at the back and little ones at the front.. ::) Maybe that show career is not on the cards afterall :005:
You'll have to rename him Dave The Dragster :005:
:rofl1: :005: :005:
That would be very apt considering his general 'not bovered' approach to life!
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