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Offline maddy74

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Re: Puppy viewing tomorrow!
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2012, 05:16:35 PM »
I did a lot of research and became obsessed with the fact that I had read whatever happens in a pup between 8 and 12 weeks shapes their whole lives, how true this is im not sure. We had Willow at 8 weeks and i have to say she was like a sponge in the first 4 weeks we had her home. We took her walking in our arms before she had her jabs, had lots of people come to meet her and got her used to noises she was a bit afraid of, hoover, washing machine. We walked her past schools whilst the children were playing outside, people in hats, by dustbin lorries, my OH in his motor bike gear etc

I also did lots of clicker training and she could do quite a few tricks by 12 weeks. So from my point of view unless the breeder has socialised them as you would, i personally would go for a smaller pup but that is only my view. Willow is a very confident 13 month old doglet now and all our hard work and thought put into those 4 weeks was worth it imo  :D

However if this had already been done then thats fab and would be less stressful  :005: :005:

Whatever you decide, wishing you the best of luck  :D

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« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2012, 06:59:29 PM »

Can I suggest that you obtain some Cocker Spaniel breed/guide books, either buy them or borrow them from the library.  They are full of useful info from puppyhood, through teens, adults and elderly.  Get several and read them all so you get a larger overview.


Are you getting a show type spaniel or a working type??   


Please don't dismiss information that you read on here.  There are a lot of people on here with various backgrounds relating to Cockers and dogs in general, from pet owners, to groomers, to breeders, to dog handlers, showers, etc, so they do know what they are talking about.  The simplest things are often the things that get overlooked and cause the biggest problems.  No one is inflable and knows everything......


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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2012, 09:34:47 PM »
Viewed the pups with a breeder in Larne tonight, he had 3 pups of 20 weeks, one bitch and two dogs.  All were absolutely lovely, very quiet and well behaved, although the larger of the two boys was very withdrawn which worried me a little, especially as he was the best looking and the one that I liked most.  

I'm going to sleep on it tonight before making a decision, I have a couple of concerns that I need to give some consideration to, one is the fact they haven't had any training on the lead yet, and the other is the fact I didn't see the mother or where the dogs were kept out the back.  In fairness I didn't ask to see the mother or where they were kept, so that's my own fault.

The breeder was a real gent and couldn't have been more helpful or knowledgeable, I spent over an hour with him and he was totally genuine, he shows Cockers and is (or has been) a KC judge for the breed at various shows.  He showed me certificates to prove both parents were DNA checked and all clear from the eye issue, and also FN tested and clear.  Each pup will come with papers, a contract, 4 weeks insurance and a voucher for some food, puppy pack and vet report & microchip registration.

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« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2012, 09:37:40 PM »
That reminds me so much of my two boys when they were that age.  :luv: So cute.  Glad you are taking time to think it over, very easy to let your heart rule your head.  Something I am very guilty off  ph34r

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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2012, 09:44:43 PM »
Why not ask to go back and meet the mother? I'd don't think you should have had ask to see her today. I think she should have been bought out for you to meet her. Good luck anyway.  :D

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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2012, 09:46:17 PM »
I would definitely ask to see the mother, but would expect her to be there anyway  :-\ beautiful pictures but you are wise to be cautious

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« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2012, 10:01:40 PM »
Hi there . Oh what a dilemma for you .

Just out of interest did you check the kennel name on the kennel club web site for the certificates . All breeders I know would always show you mum . I was so proud of my beau I wanted people to see her with the pups . If the pups are kept 'out back' maybe they are not so used to being indoors hence being quiet . My litters were raised indoors and were all VERY playful and noisy 15 weeks. Also dogs kept out of the main house can be difficult to toilet train . Certainly not impossible but probably harder . Also domestic noises like hoovers washing machines and general noise can cause issues unless you are looking for a dog to keep outside .

I'd visit again to see mum and out back if you can  and check out those results ..
 
I'm a cynic so please forgive me that I do not always take people at face value .. Sorry but not showing mum is just a bit odd ...

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« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2012, 10:13:27 PM »
Hi there . Oh what a dilemma for you .

Just out of interest did you check the kennel name on the kennel club web site for the certificates . All breeders I know would always show you mum . I was so proud of my beau I wanted people to see her with the pups . If the pups are kept 'out back' maybe they are not so used to being indoors hence being quiet . My litters were raised indoors and were all VERY playful and noisy 15 weeks. Also dogs kept out of the main house can be difficult to toilet train . Certainly not impossible but probably harder . Also domestic noises like hoovers washing machines and general noise can cause issues unless you are looking for a dog to keep outside .

I'd visit again to see mum and out back if you can  and check out those results ..
 
I'm a cynic so please forgive me that I do not always take people at face value .. Sorry but not showing mum is just a bit odd ...

In all honesty I didn't even take note of the parents names on the certificate, so I wouldn't be able to check that right now.  

I think the dogs spend a lot of time in the house during the day, but at night and when the owners are out they are kept outside in purpose built accommodation.  Today for example, his grandchildren were round and the pups spent all day playing with the kids in the house.

I have another litter to view anyway, the lady called me back today but we missed each other again!  Hopefully I can see them tomorrow or Monday evening.  

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« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2012, 10:16:46 PM »
What unusual markings the pup in the first picture has  :luv:  (By unusual, I mean I've never seen it before  :005: )
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« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2012, 10:19:22 PM »
What unusual markings the pup in the first picture has  :luv:  (By unusual, I mean I've never seen it before  :005: )

Yes, I was shocked to see that too, gorgeous dog though  :luv:

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« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2012, 10:21:56 PM »
Awwww they're beautiful puppies and look well cared for.    The one second from last photo is gorgeous  :luv:



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« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2012, 10:23:21 PM »
What unusual markings the pup in the first picture has  :luv:  (By unusual, I mean I've never seen it before  :005: )

Yeah very unusual, but she was such a nice pup - the friendliest of the 3!  Father was black, and mother was orange.

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« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2012, 10:30:40 PM »
I agree with the posters saying you need to see the mum.  I don't understand why they haven't been sold already...8 weeks is the usual age for selling them, and I just feel the pup is going to bond more quickly with you at that age.

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Re: Puppy viewing tomorrow!
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2012, 10:35:55 PM »
What unusual markings the pup in the first picture has  :luv:  (By unusual, I mean I've never seen it before  :005: )

Yeah very unusual, but she was such a nice pup - the friendliest of the 3!  Father was black, and mother was orange.

I was going to say that you'd get those markings from a mixed particolour x solid mating. Unusual for a show breeder to mix solids and partis in their breeding program so perhaps this is something you could also ask about. You should definitely have been shown Mum without having to ask - it's usually automatic for most breeders to have Mum with the pups for visitors to see.

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Re: Puppy viewing tomorrow!
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2012, 10:37:11 PM »
Well they look lovely  :luv:

Would not take too long with a little help from google to check the breeder out regarding his status as a judge and as Jane said it can be  hard to find health tested cockers in Ireland so the testing is a real bonus. Nice that they are socialised with the grand children . That explains them being tired I guess .
All the best with your choice I'm sure you will know  :luv:


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