Puppy viewing tomorrow!

[McFly]

What unusual markings the pup in the first picture has    (By unusual, I mean I've never seen it before   )

Yeah very unusual, but she was such a nice pup - the friendliest of the 3!  Father was black, and mother was orange.

I was going to say that you'd get those markings from a mixed particolour x solid mating. Unusual for a show breeder to mix solids and partis in their breeding program so perhaps this is something you could also ask about. You should definitely have been shown Mum without having to ask - it's usually automatic for most breeders to have Mum with the pups for visitors to see.

Re the link to the KC Sales List, sorry haven't heard of any of those breeders.

No both parents were apparently solid colours, father all black and mother orange. 

I might go back in the week and ask to see the mother and where the pups are kept.  I'll view the other litter first though, they're all around 8 weeks old I think.

[mlynnf50]

I got selby st 16 weeks and although he was good at toileting he had not been socialized, I think mainly
Because he had not had his second injection, we have had a few problems that we are still working on, and they are getting better, so I think there are pros and cons to getting an older pup.

Hope all goes well, and you will not get any better information and help than you get on this site, it's very addictive.  Keep posted

[Jane S]

No both parents were apparently solid colours, father all black and mother orange. 

I might go back in the week and ask to see the mother and where the pups are kept.  I'll view the other litter first though, they're all around 8 weeks old I think.

Orange is shorthand in the show world for orange roan - it's a parti colour You would only get those white face markings from mixing particolours with solids

[Sharon]

We got Autumn at 18 weeks and it took a long time to get her used to the lead and house training

[bajoleth]

Lovely pups, love the one jeanette pointed out, and as they are health tested that a bonus since Jane says its difficult to find where you are
Of course temprament is sooo important so maybe a second viewing with the mum present would be a good idea, the only thing that 'worries' me slightly is why he would mix a solid with a parti with his background (showing and being a judge etc) as Jane says its not usually the done thing in showing etc because of the mismarks , like the first pup, who is of course very cute but mismarked, this makes no difference to a pet home of course but it seems a little odd to me that someone with his knowledge would do it? I would def ask

[Sarah.H]

I've only just seen this thread but after reading through all of it one thing sticks out to me. If he is an experienced breeder that didn't want to sell pups over the Christmas holidays then why did he time a litter that way?

[JeffandAnnie]

Well done for being cautious. A word of warning, my sister went to see some pups from a breeder from the KC website (not "assured" like the ones you showed) and it was quite dodgey and probably a dealer. You need to be very careful; even dealers can come across as very convincing and knowleadgeable. I would suggest:
1. see puppies' mum
2. check certificates closely. There should be 5 generation KC pedigree and all the health tests, plus at that age vaccination certs.
3. See their accommodation
4. Ask to take the pup you like on a short walk
5. Have the pup sit with you (on your knee or next to you) for the cuddle factor 

I really do love the one with the spotty nose 

[sands]

Just googled the gentlemans name which is on the list and there is a judge with that surname showing up but the first initial is different - strange 

[Jeanette]

I've only just seen this thread but after reading through all of it one thing sticks out to me. If he is an experienced breeder that didn't want to sell pups over the Christmas holidays then why did he time a litter that way?

20 weeks old, they would have been ready to go to their new homes at the end of October  - thats not really Christmas puppies in my mind.

Indie was born at the end of September, even later than these puppies and was ready to come home at the end of November  - I don't think of her as a Christmas puppy.     I can understand if they were 8 weeks old a couple of weeks before Christmas but not if they were ready 2 months before Christmas 

[McFly]

Just googled the gentlemans name which is on the list and there is a judge with that surname showing up but the first initial is different - strange 

What was the first initial?

[McFly]

I've only just seen this thread but after reading through all of it one thing sticks out to me. If he is an experienced breeder that didn't want to sell pups over the Christmas holidays then why did he time a litter that way?

20 weeks old, they would have been ready to go to their new homes at the end of October  - thats not really Christmas puppies in my mind.

Indie was born at the end of September, even later than these puppies and was ready to come home at the end of November  - I don't think of her as a Christmas puppy.     I can understand if they were 8 weeks old a couple of weeks before Christmas but not if they were ready 2 months before Christmas 

He said the first 5 of the litter all sold relatively quickly, but these three didn't.  I can only assume Xmas soon arrived and he didn't want to be selling 'Xmas pups'.

[Jeanette]

I've only just seen this thread but after reading through all of it one thing sticks out to me. If he is an experienced breeder that didn't want to sell pups over the Christmas holidays then why did he time a litter that way?

20 weeks old, they would have been ready to go to their new homes at the end of October  - thats not really Christmas puppies in my mind.

Indie was born at the end of September, even later than these puppies and was ready to come home at the end of November  - I don't think of her as a Christmas puppy.     I can understand if they were 8 weeks old a couple of weeks before Christmas but not if they were ready 2 months before Christmas 

He said the first 5 of the litter all sold relatively quickly, but these three didn't.  I can only assume Xmas soon arrived and he didn't want to be selling 'Xmas pups'.

Yes I don't think its as easy to sell puppies these days due to the economic climate.    I do like the look of the black ones, to be honest though I would be worried about their socialisation as they should have experienced virtually everything in the outside world by this time however the breeder may have done this.   

Good luck with viewing the other litter. 

[Beezzzkneez]

There are a good number of Cocker litters advertised over here and I'm not really surprised he has problems selling the last few - when we went to pick up our Maike the breeder hadn't sold any of her littermates. I love the wee bitch with the white markings, thank goodness I have my hands more than full with ours or I'd be really tempted to take a trip to Larne! 

[Jeanette]

There are a good number of Cocker litters advertised over here and I'm not really surprised he has problems selling the last few - when we went to pick up our Maike the breeder hadn't sold any of her littermates. I love the wee bitch with the white markings, thank goodness I have my hands more than full with ours or I'd be really tempted to take a trip to Larne! 

Oh I didn't realise the breeder was on that list.         To the OP, I'd just ring back with any concerns or questions you have, they look very nice puppies.   

[Beezzzkneez]

There are a good number of Cocker litters advertised over here and I'm not really surprised he has problems selling the last few - when we went to pick up our Maike the breeder hadn't sold any of her littermates. I love the wee bitch with the white markings, thank goodness I have my hands more than full with ours or I'd be really tempted to take a trip to Larne! 

Oh I didn't realise the breeder was on that list.         To the OP, I'd just ring back with any concerns or questions you have, they look very nice puppies.   

Jeanette, I thought he was the 2nd on the list but now I am a bit confused. Hopefully I didn't get the wrong end of the stick!