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Title: "The" First night
Post by: Mumof3 on October 09, 2016, 05:40:56 AM
Lots of whimpering every hour :(
How to stop this?
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Theo961 on October 09, 2016, 06:24:44 AM
First let me say welcome to Cooper.  :D
Oh bless! We did tell you to make sure you got plenty of sleep before!   :005:
I don't really know enough to advise you but someone will be along soon. May need more info such as where did he sleep, is he in a crate and toilet routine etc.
My first 2 weeks were hell! I did the same as I had with my other puppies (crate, pen, stayed close 1st few nights, toilet without a fuss and try to establish a routine)  but had never know a pup like it! It took a couple of weeks of the most ungodly noise for him to really settle.
He is only a baby and it is all new to him and he will take a while to settle but it does get better. X


Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Mumof3 on October 09, 2016, 07:05:10 AM
We let him try his crate when he got home, was free to run in and out of it, the crate is located in the dining room. We did shut the door of the crate at dinner time when we was all st having dinner.
When it came to bedtime we did the whole wee before bed and he just would not even condone going in the crate and ran and hid under the table.
So I took his bed out of the crate and left in the kitchen with the stairgate shut.
I ended up staying downstairs in the living room to aid when he got too noisy x
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: bizzylizzy on October 09, 2016, 07:52:33 AM
The next couple of weeks will probably be a bit chaotic until little Cooper settles down. Its a huge step for such a little pup, he's left his Mum and his siblings and everything he knows and has been whisked away to a strange environment, strange smells, strange people and when the lights fo out and he's alone in his crate, he's frightened and crying for his mum. Its all quite normal and we've all been there, some had it easy, some not so. First step - remember its only for a limited time, so try to stay as calm as you can, the calmer you are, the quicker he'll get through it.
There'll be lots of advice coming, everyone's got their own way of doing things, but for the record, this is what we did.:
First night I put the crate next to the sofa and I slept (well, - off and on anyway :005:) there. I put my fingers through the crate and talked quietly. At one point he got so hysterical, I put a tiny bowl of water in there and he lapped it up like mad and fell asleep with his head over the bowl!
Second night I also slept downstairs but moved the crate a bit further away. He'd still not settled after about 10 minutes and I slapped my hand on the crate and said "quiet" and he was si shicked he shut up!
The following couple of nights I stayed down until he'd gone off and then went back upstairs. He had an old T shirt of mine in the crate (stayed there for months!) and some nights, if he didn't want to settle, I left the radio on low. 
On a general note, we didn't play with him at all after his evening meal,(still don't), so that he didn't get over excited before bedtime.
There is no one size fits all solution, we were very lucky in that Humphrey is very laid back, we're retired, the kids have flown the nest and it didn't matter too much if I got tired, I could catch up later, but the calmer and more patient you can manage to stay, the quicker Cooper will feel secure - and try as much as possible to stick to routine, they need that, especially in the beginning.
Best of luck and remember, we're all here for you, so such shout up or have a rant if you need to, we're listening!!  ;)
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Patp on October 09, 2016, 02:55:13 PM
Ah bless things he knew have completely gone .  Just a couple or so things to try

Is his crate covered to make him more secure?
did you bring a blanket or anything from the breeder for him to sleep with?
can you give him a t shirt that you have worn to go into his crate?

Jinley had a ticking clock in her crate too - it might help x
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: tenaille on October 09, 2016, 02:59:24 PM
I think these posts about sum it up. If he's crying for mum he's probably better being in his crate than wandering around, he'll feel more secure. It generally doesn't take too long before they sleep through although its different for each pup.
My Martha used to wake me up in the morning to go out for a wee but now at 7 months I wake her up at 7:30 for cuddles  :luv:
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: AlanT on October 09, 2016, 03:37:59 PM
Pop along to a Charity-shop and get a childs cuddly toy. We had a black/white chap called Snoopy.
Snoopy survived intact and comes out from time to time if we are poorly.

Put this in the crate and it makes a nice sleeping companion.

I put the crate on the landing so he could hear me snoring.

At 3am I got up and went went outside. Same again a 6am.

Quite soon would go peacefully through the night until about 7am.
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: bizzylizzy on October 09, 2016, 04:33:41 PM
Another thing I forgot - a kong with a bit of liver sausage inside is a good  distraction when lights go out at bedtime. Humphrey still gets his,,its just become routine!
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Mumof3 on October 09, 2016, 07:01:29 PM
Ah bless things he knew have completely gone .  Just a couple or so things to try

Is his crate covered to make him more secure?
did you bring a blanket or anything from the breeder for him to sleep with?
can you give him a t shirt that you have worn to go into his crate?

Jinley had a ticking clock in her crate too - it might help x


He didn't have a blanket from breeder no, but had a towel last night that smelt of me, and today he's had my dressing gown :)
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Blueberry on October 09, 2016, 08:06:32 PM
I had a few problems with Blue at the beginning, but it resolved with me sleeping on the floor next to his crate for a few nights and letting him out to toilet every 3 or 4 hours at first.  I'm delighted to say he manages a good 10 hours now!
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Mumof3 on October 09, 2016, 08:18:24 PM
I was considering bringing in the cushions off the sofa tonight to sleep in the dining room with him, I have to usually test my daughters blood sugars around 2.30am so can let him out too, although there is no lights in our garden a torch will have to do hehe
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Mumof3 on October 10, 2016, 03:07:39 AM
NIGHT NUMBER TWO...

put a massive sheet over the crate, placed the sofa cushions on the floor in dining room to sleep out there with him.
Toileted before bed 22.30 then just done him now 2.30am (wee and poo)
He's still quite whiney even tho I'm near him and he can see me :(
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: bizzylizzy on October 10, 2016, 07:02:13 AM
It gets better - promise! Hang on in there!!!  ;)
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Patp on October 10, 2016, 07:36:53 AM
Don't worry he will have you trained in no time at all!

I also wondered at what point you will be letting him upstairs to sleep if he is going to became an alert buddy for your daughter? 
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Joules on October 10, 2016, 08:22:57 AM
Perfectly normal - this might go on for the first few days or even couple of weeks.  Just keep doing what you are doing and it will get better  ;)
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Mumof3 on October 10, 2016, 09:16:46 AM
Don't worry he will have you trained in no time at all!

I also wondered at what point you will be letting him upstairs to sleep if he is going to became an alert buddy for your daughter?


We have been told to train him first before starting the awareness training or it will be too much in one go :)
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Blueberry on October 10, 2016, 09:54:28 AM
I promise you, it does get better.  It's hard going at first, but you'll soon be on the other side.
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Theo961 on October 10, 2016, 10:18:21 AM
Stick to routine and try to keep strong and it will soon be over.  Reese was by far the worse pup I have ever had for this, he screamed for about a week all night then it would be when he first went to bed for about half an hour, when he needed a wee( but i did learn the difference in cries and would let him out for this without making a fuss) and when he wanted to get up ( anywhere from 4am) but this only went on for about another week. Others I had were usually fine after a few nights.
X
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Mumof3 on October 11, 2016, 07:13:51 AM
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3rd night we had to improvise as we had some loose motions after worming, so pulled his cage up against the stair gate so he could go on a puppy mat in the kitchen.

I slept in the hallway, plugged in the radio and nightlight, we still had a few whimpers but I suppose were getting there

He did go back to bed when I told him too, when it wasn't time for toilet
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Theo961 on October 11, 2016, 07:50:53 AM
That's really good news, sounds like he is getting there.  :D
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Patp on October 11, 2016, 01:28:42 PM
 :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
Title: Re: "The" First night
Post by: Joules on October 11, 2016, 03:26:20 PM
For the 3rd night, that is brilliant - sounds like he is doing really well :clapping:

What a good boy   :luv: