The people we saw were really nice people and had a genuine enthusiam for cocker spaniels. They knew the pedigree and sat down and explained it to us. The puppies "mum" was so friendly as well. However, they didn't do the eye test, mainly associating it with cataracts, and thought that alot of breeders only did it to charge more for puppies. We were so close to agreeing to one but went away to think about it. The eye test was a big doubt in our mind so we went to a vet to check. They recommended that the eye test should be done, so we've decided to leave it. A very hard decision, especially as the people were so nice. Still, the search goes on, (with alot of help from Jane). I guess its the wrong time of year though, understandably.