Apparently, there is some of Pam Walkers breeding in there somewhere, I'm to send her some pics, and a copy of the ped and she is interested in having a look. She said, sable can be thrown up anywhere depending on the lineage and the colours used, eg choc and orange roan, prob got the colour combination wrong, but she said is isnt impossible, and that they do sound like sable, or have a bit of sable going on. Might not be true sable in the true sense of the word, but still it is possible. Sometimes they dont come into full colour till they are as much as 2 years old.
She is showing 2 sable pups at Stonely Park on sunday, think I might have to have a little look.