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Off Topic => Computer Help => Topic started by: johndoran on February 07, 2013, 03:50:09 PM

Title: i-pad, another question
Post by: johndoran on February 07, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
Does an Apple i-pad still have to run a security anti virus such as Norton?.
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: JohnK on February 07, 2013, 04:02:03 PM
I dont have it on mine and never had a problem. Works on the same system as your i phone. Even mac's dont need it though I do have one on there
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: supergirl on February 07, 2013, 04:13:22 PM
Haven't got anything on mine, haven't had any problems.
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: ollie nathan's mum on February 07, 2013, 04:34:29 PM
We were looking at a mac yesterday apparently apple now advise extra security such as Norton. They have had problems and no longer guarantee that you won't have problems.
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: JohnK on February 07, 2013, 04:36:07 PM
I have Sophos on my Mac. If you have a card for Costco, Mac's are cheaper in there
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: ollie nathan's mum on February 07, 2013, 04:38:07 PM
Thanks John, much cheaper?
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: JohnK on February 07, 2013, 04:41:07 PM
Generally £50 - £75 cheaper. Just had a quick look online and they haven't any showing, but they always have them instore. I got an iPad for my daughters mil and that was £25 cheaper
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: ollie nathan's mum on February 07, 2013, 04:43:30 PM
Thanks John.
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: Macette on February 07, 2013, 05:36:09 PM
iPads don't have security but you can use a security software with mac I have sophos free on my mac...
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: BobnDot on February 09, 2013, 05:53:57 PM
Clamxav is one of the best free anti virus for Mac although the newer systems have their own security software built in.
Be sure to regularly use Software Update to install the latest system security updates to the built in security system. This can be set to check automatically and download any updates.
iOS, as used on the iPad, iPhone and iPod is inherently safe when used with Apps downloaded from Apple's App store. Problems occur when people have had their phones "Jailbroken" which can negate the security system, or have downloaded Apps online and not from the App store.
Having said that, in more than 30 years of fairly intensive professional Mac use I've never had a virus and have only come across one on a client's machine which was contained in a MS Word document that had been loaded on a USB memory stick from a PC.
The best place to buy Macs is from the Apple store but look in the "Refurbished" section. These machines are actually better than new as they've had a full diagnostic check carried out, any out of spec parts replaced and come with the same length of warranty as a new machine. Up to 20% savings in some cases.

Bob.
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: Holly2009 on February 09, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
iPads don't need security software viruses etc cannot be installed its impossible on iOS devices  :blink:

Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: BobnDot on February 09, 2013, 06:28:08 PM
Sorry, but in the IT world, nothing's "Impossible". New vulnerabilities are being reported every week or so.

iOs is about the safest system out there but Apple themselves have recently introduced new security measures comprising a set of additional security questions following on a breach of the iTunes store security.

Bob.
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: Holly2009 on February 09, 2013, 07:11:51 PM
Sorry, but in the IT world, nothing's "Impossible". New vulnerabilities are being reported every week or so.

iOs is about the safest system out there but Apple themselves have recently introduced new security measures comprising a set of additional security questions following on a breach of the iTunes store security.

Bob.

iTunes is a completely different thing, it's an application, apps on iPads generally work independently, their is no overall file manager on an ipad. Viruses made for Macs & pc's run on a completely different system from iOS so can no way be transferred. Their is no need to download virrus protection to your ipad as your updates have you covered. Unless your iPad is jailbroken your safe as sausages.
If you can find me a known virus on an iPad I shall eat my cockers left lug  :005:
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: pipkoi on February 09, 2013, 08:57:03 PM
If you ever shop in an Apple shop make sure you ask about discounts. They have a folder of codes that cover about every eventuality via jobs, students, courses etc. generous discounts as well. 30% off hardware & 20% software.
Just don't be afraid to ask
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: johndoran on February 10, 2013, 12:52:55 PM
Def' going to get myself an i-pad and I was was worried in case I needed something like Norton which seems to work overtime on my laptop. Thanks for all your help. Pip, I don't think I am as cheeky as you, I never ask for discounts. I could do with you coming shopping with me :lol:
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: Blackandtan on February 10, 2013, 02:47:46 PM
Another good way to save a few quid is to buy a refurb direct from Apple online, you still get the full warranty.
Title: Re: i-pad, another question
Post by: BobnDot on February 10, 2013, 06:26:46 PM
iTunes is a completely different thing, it's an application, apps on iPads generally work independently, their is no overall file manager on an ipad. Viruses made for Macs & pc's run on a completely different system from iOS so can no way be transferred. Their is no need to download virrus protection to your ipad as your updates have you covered. Unless your iPad is jailbroken your safe as sausages.
If you can find me a known virus on an iPad I shall eat my cockers left lug  :005:


I'm well aware that there's no file manager as such but iTunes is much more that a simple Application in that it gives access to the core command structure of the operating system. This is how "Firmware updates" and updates to the system are applied. It's also the path through which various devices can be "Jailbroken" or have alterations made to the core operating system. This route has been utilised by some Apps, thankfully most of which have been spotted at the certification stage, to install malicious code....Google is presently under investigation for data harvesting on iOS devices and on Macs through Safari......It's been well reported in the news and trade journals/websites.
Unfortunately most people mistakenly use the term "Virus" to cover any and all malware on computer systems while, in fact, low level attacks making small but significant alterations to the coding structure of the operating system are much more serious.
If you have access to an Apple software developer's kit (iOS SDK) than I'd suggest a review of the security section would be appropriate.

Bob.