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Offline sarah25

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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2005, 03:51:09 PM »
sorry could some 1 plz tell me wht "animal sanctuaries"  ;)
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2005, 06:12:12 PM »
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sorry could some 1 plz tell me wht "animal sanctuaries"  ;)
thankyou  :)
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An animal sanctuary is like an animal shelter, i.e. somewhere where homeless doggies are put until a new home is found for them :)


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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2005, 06:19:44 PM »
OoOoOoO thankyou mrsbojangles  :)

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2005, 06:43:39 PM »
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no advice but just wanted to say Thats Shocking  :o how could so called "Animal sanctuaries" do such a thing!! :angry: he shouldnt be allowed anywhere near animals  :angry:
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Thanks for the info Jane, and the support.

I wonder if this is the same people you are talking about they are based in Chichester and they got my details from another forum.

I'm always very reluctant to given my complete address until I have spoken to people on a regular basis and that I feel happy with them visiting my house and view any pups, a situation recently arose about 5 miles from where I live with a litter of black labs.

The breeder got a call from prospective buyer who she arrange to meet and visit the pups, she felt unsure about them and they decided that the pup wasn't quite what she was looking for (considering they were a litter of all black pups, it can't be that hard to decide), then about a week later the whole litter was stolen and have never been seen since.  Now that's really shocking and worrying.

I do explain to prospective buyers why I'm not prepared to give any details until I feel entirely happy but there is only so much you can do before you scare the good puppy buyers away.

This particular person has already said that the pup would be used for breeding and she felt that the only reason that a breeder put restrictions on pups is to prevent her loosing business to other breeders!!!  She has quoted quite openly that she will breed anyway whether there are restrictions or not because she has already had enquiries for her boys pups and 'knows she could get a good price with or without papers'.

Surely as a breeder, if you make stipulations in a contract about breeding and then someone then breaks that contract, you could take some action against them for breech of contract, although that might prove expensive, but at least it might stop them continueing to breed.

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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2005, 07:02:14 PM »
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Surely as a breeder, if you make stipulations in a contract about breeding and then someone then breaks that contract, you could take some action against them for breech of contract, although that might prove expensive, but at least it might stop them continueing to breed.
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Well in theory you can include a clause about not breeding from the dog in a contract between buyer & breeder but in practice, I think it's unlikely a court would uphold the clause. Dogs are "chattels" as far as the law is concerned & once ownership passes, then the new owner is free to do exactly what they want with their property. In the unlikely event that a court did agree that a "not to be bred from" clause was valid, all the breeder could do would be to sue for breach of contract which would be expensive & time consuming & wouldn't actually stop the buyer from breeding anyway. It's not fair if you're a breeder wanting to protect your pups but that's the law :(

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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2005, 08:43:07 PM »
I was contacted by these same people about 3 months ago.  I actually do know the animal sanctuary as I got a rabbit from them.  They don't actually have dogs at the sanctuary it is mainly wildlife and rabbits.  They didn't actually tell me that they were after a bitch to breed from, but at the time our bitches had all been reserved.  I did find out afterwards from a friend of theirs who I also know that they were after a bitch to breed from.
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2005, 09:02:48 PM »
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Tina - this is terrible  :(  sorry I can't help, lets hope that you making everyone aware of it will put breeders on the alert for something suspicious.  ;)   

It must be so difficult for breeders nowadays to know when someone is genuine  :blink:
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Its frightening to think this kind of thing is going on. I had hought that dogs from rescues didnot have papers to try and stop breeding like this but now it seems an animal "sanctuary" is involved.

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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2005, 09:31:46 AM »
This dog is not actually from a rescue society, it lives at an animal sanctuary as the people who have it own the sanctuary.
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