Monty,s Family Tree

[alan&ness]

hi, i am so impressed with the efforts some people take to find there pets family tree, i would love to do montys tree but only have his sire & dam names,
   

         monty,s reg name; LIGHTNING ZORO

                       dam      ; JAFARE ROYAL CHANTRESS

                        sire      ; JAFARE GOLDEN RAINBOW

      is it possible to go any further . thank you          

                                                         

[Jane S]

I'm afraid it's not easy to trace pedigrees if there are no well-known affixes involved - Monty's Mum & Dad came from a commercial kennel whose lines do eventually go back to better known show lines such as Cardamine. I believe there is also some Working Cocker breeding being used by this particular commercial kennel so Monty could be a blend of both types.

Jane

[alan&ness]

thank you so much for that imformation that may explain why monty is so tall

[workingcockers]

J Golden Rainbow is Cardamine Bracken Brown x Jafare Sweetheart

C Bracken Brown = Cardamine Catchphrase x Cardamine chococcino

Jafare Sweetheart= Pierrot Morning Glory x tansy Lass

cardamine catchphrase= C jaffa King x C Cinnamon

cardamine chococcio= C Just Dandy x C Cappuccino

Pierrot Morning Glory = Helleborus Thunderbug x Ocean Pearl

Tansy Lass= Cardamine Jaffa King x Cardamine Velvet Tansy

if you give me the BRS code on your reg document for the dam - will have her name then something like this in brackets (AC2) or (AD1), Ill have a look as I havent had much time over last year or 2 to update my database but sure her parents will be on it if I manually look up who they are in the paper copy of the BRS

[workingcockers]

if you want, once have found the code after dams name, I can print you off a five gen pedigree, or alternatively, you can order from the kcs web site - they have an online facility for ordering pedigrees.

[Jane S]

Does Monty have his registration certificate then? I assumed as a rehome, he wouldn't as most rescues don't pass paperwork on to new owners.

Jane

 

[workingcockers]

ah sorry = didnt realise he was a rehome and that you might not have the paperwork..if you dont, leave it with me and sometime this weekend I;ll have a look to see when his dam was born and take it from there...

[alan&ness]

wow!!!! how good is that, this site and its members are just brilliant, love coming on here just to read fantastic.
   we got monty thanks to this site somone passed us imfo, and we acted quickly
 the last owners had problems with monty, lovely people, but we sorted him he is just brilliant.

                sire; ref  ( y04 )

                dam; ref  (z02 )

                you very kind thank you  best regards  ALAN & NESS
 


                     

[mum of kimmi]

Monty's Mum & Dad came from a commercial kennel

 

Is this the Jafare Cockers nr Ely?

[alan&ness]

not sure , address on papers ,is loughton milton keynes.

[workingcockers]

Alan - Ill get back to you with dams side of pedigree in a couple of hours -spending some time with teenage son albeit watching a DVD as feeling rather neglected due to recent doggy events!! I; post finding here and if you want to PM me, I;ll send you a 5 gen some time in next couple of days with colours etc as a JPEG - leave your email addy for me..
regards

Kirsten

[alan&ness]

HI, KIRSTEN, I HAVE SENT PM LET ME KNOW IF YOU RECEIVE IT NOT THAT GOOD ON COMPUTER SORRY.  

[Jane S]

Is this the Jafare Cockers nr Ely

Yes it is but Monty wasn't bred there - his parents were.


Jane

[workingcockers]

for anyone following the thread, Im going to email Alan sometime later with a 5 gen pedigree but the dams breeding is Jerasa Mahongony Marquetry of Delfleet (that is how mahogany is spelt on the reg) x jafare Silver lady. Breeding is from Cardamine/Lindridge/Normanview...

cheer for now

K

[alan&ness]

we will be so proud to have this kirsten has been so helpful cant thank her enough excellent col member.