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« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2005, 12:24:42 PM »
We lived in a first floor flat until our baby was 9 months old so the thought of lugging a heavy pram up and down the stairs everytime I wanted to take the dog out didn't appeal to me  ;)

My OH was at training college for quite a while and I was by myself Monday to Friday so I just found it alot more practical  :) The only thing I didn't find practical was trying to get a wriggly newborn baby into the damn thing  :ph34r:  :lol:

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« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2005, 01:50:34 PM »
Congratulations Em you must be delighted!!

I think a lot depends on the nature of your dog. I grew up with cockers and pups in the house and don't ever remember being seperated from them. Our first arrived when I was 16 months old!

I don't have kids myself and I must admit that when we are out for walks I encourage small children to pat her. I feel its good for her to socialise with little people (as long as their parents are happy with that!).

Jem has a great nature and I would like to think that if I ever become a Mum that dog and child could be left together.

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« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2005, 03:45:15 PM »
Congratulations Em - how exciting for you  :)

Apologies to the mathamatical purists who dislike the 110% reference - I started using it after I met a trainer who told me her own dogs were "100% trustworthy - but nip when you give them treats" so amongst her associates we would use 110% to describe dogs that were more trustworthy than hers  :lol:

I have to admit to being surprised at the number of people who do let their kids and dogs play together unsupervised; all the advise I have read from professionals and charities recommends supervision at all times and I suppose it had never occurred to me that there might be another way of doing things  :ph34r:  

My daughter is still young though - I am sure that as she gets older, we will have to review the situation  ;)
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« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2005, 04:16:10 PM »
Maybe I should put it in a different way, I would trust my dog but I wouldn't trust a young child because even the most dog wise can get it wrong sometimes, does that mean that as children are also a risk that they should be removed  :D .
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« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2005, 04:51:11 PM »
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Maybe I should put it in a different way, I would trust my dog but I wouldn't trust a young child because even the most dog wise can get it wrong sometimes, does that mean that as children are also a risk that they should be removed  :D .
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If your dog is more important than your children, yes... :o

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« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2005, 04:53:53 PM »
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Apologies to the mathamatical purists who dislike the 110% reference -

The point I was trying to get across is that you cannot trust your dog 110%, as you wouldn't leave the dog and your children unsupervised, this is not trusting your dog 110%.
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« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2005, 05:07:44 PM »
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Maybe I should put it in a different way, I would trust my dog but I wouldn't trust a young child because even the most dog wise can get it wrong sometimes, does that mean that as children are also a risk that they should be removed  :D .
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I don't have any children and I wasn't being serious about getting rid of children, just putting across a different view  :) .
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« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2005, 05:14:01 PM »
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The point I was trying to get across is that you cannot trust your dog 110%, as you wouldn't leave the dog and your children unsupervised, this is not trusting your dog 110%.
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I expect Molo to behave like a dog; I am confident that his behaviour as a dog is predictable and therefore I trust him 100% to be a dog.

I would not expect Molo to behave like a stuffed toy if my daughter accidentally dropped something or slipped and trod on him for instance  :blink: He is a dog, and I would expect him to react in a dog-like way - protecting himself from the threat that he perceives.

I expect and trust my daughter to behave like the 4 year old child that she is - so accidents WILL occur. I ensure I am there to guide her behaviour and teach her how to avoid accidents occuring that may hurt or discomfort Molo  :)
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« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2005, 05:22:36 PM »
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I trust Molo 110% but would NEVER leave him with my daughter or any other child unsupervised for a moment  :ph34r:


This is what baffles me  :blink:

If you trust your dog 110%, or 100%  ;)  why would you not leave your dog and daughter together.  I would say you don't trust your dog as much as you think you do...
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« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2005, 05:46:41 PM »
This was an interesting thread but sadly it seems to be degenerating into an argument so I am locking it for the time being. Differences of opinion are fine but continuing to challenge posters who have already explained their views is not as it then becomes an argument not a discussion. Far better to end the thread here than continue in this vein ;)

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