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Offline Amanda463

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Doogle does not like to be told off
« on: January 01, 2013, 11:22:15 PM »
Doogle is 13 weeks today. He's a typical cheeky puppy and gets up to all sorts of mischief. The trouble is when you tell him off he barks at you and lunges at you. He hates to be told off when he's being naughty. Any tips on how best to handle this behaviour, I've never come across this 'brave' behaviour before?    :shades:
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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 09:09:43 AM »
I think sometimes telling him off might just get him more excitable. Maybe try just putting him somewhere for a couple of minutes 'timeout'. Don't make a fuss, just take him to his crate, or another room and leave him to calm down. I think it is something he will probably grow out of.

Or just distract him with something, get him to sit then praise him. This worked quite well with our Jem. She used to hang on my trousers so if I could tell she was about to do it, I'd ask her to sit. It doesn't always work but just be calm and patient.
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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 09:18:36 AM »
Honey does the same, its like she is answering back. I have started to put her in time out and it seems to be working...
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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 09:26:03 AM »
The other thing to try is to just ignore the pup. Just walk off and don't face the pup and he should realise that he doesn't get any attention that way.
Do you have any piccies? - we all love pics of tiny puppies on here, even naughty ones ;)

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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 10:36:38 AM »
I think the time out thing might just work..he also hates to be ignored...I will give that a try..cheers.
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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 10:46:27 AM »
What a cutie - love the one where he's pawing the window  :luv: :luv:

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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 11:01:24 AM »
Having seen your photos I can see that you must be making the mischief bit up- he is clearly a little angel ;)  :luv:

He is gorgeous!
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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2013, 11:04:15 AM »
Having seen your photos I can see that you must be making the mischief bit up- he is clearly a little angel ;)  :luv:

He is gorgeous!

Haahaaa..yes it looks like butter wouldn't melt in his mouth..beware, appearances are VERY deceptive  :005: ;)

But do you believe me now??


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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2013, 12:14:51 PM »
aww he's adorable.  :luv: :luv:

ours answers back on occasion. & my other dog does too, he nudges the guitar in the living room in a 'so what you going to do about it' type jester, he also answers back but its normally playful.
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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 12:25:04 PM »
What a cutie - love the one where he's pawing the window  :luv: :luv:

Totally agree  :luv:

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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2013, 01:57:44 PM »
At 13 weeks he really does not know what a telling off is, I am no dog behaviorist  ( I am sure one will come along soon and tell me I am talking danglies) but I have always seen this behaviour in puppies to be how they would respond to another pup. If you then enforce the telling off with a bit more telling off it becomes an even better game for the pup. I am sure lots of pups my own included believe the word NO means lets do it some more  :D

Rather than a telling off try a quiet arhh arhh to the pup to signify its not acceptable behaviour and then use distraction like a new game or if the pup is a bit hyped try a time out, give a quick  cuddle and place in the crate for a while.

Be carfull about using treats to distract though, I fell into this trap over the TV remote, Teal grabbed it a few times and would not bring it back so I ignored her even when she kept running up to tease me with it. Eventually I stupidly started to call her over using a gravy bone treat to get the remote back and we created the I will swap you for a treat game which we are now have to cure. Little minx now grabs the remote or something else not allowed and runs to the kitchen for her gravy bone.
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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2013, 02:36:01 PM »
I agree with the others, just do a quick arhh arhh (assume thats how it is written without sounding like a pirate :005: :005:) when doing something unacceptable.  It can be down to the tone of your voice that winds a puppy or dog up.

I find that shorter words spoken in a deeper tone means what I am asking.  Jinley is going through adolescence and thinks she can go back to the car after a walk without her lead on.  And if she doesn't think she has walked enough just stands and stares at me about 10foot away!! >:( >:(

If my OH (who has done no training with her) says stay to have her lead on - she does  >:( >:( so I say it now in a more authoritative voice and she listens.

At the age of Doogle he needs to be encouraged to change his behaviour, not just by telling him to stop doing something, but to follow it with a friendly command of what you want him to do.  For example if say he is chewing your slipper and he growls when you try to take it off him, I would just say arhh arhh, then walk away slightly and in a chirpy voice say "come" then "sit" then give him a treat when he has done this.

He will associate the treat with come and sit rather than exchanging for the slipper.

It worked for me, others will have better ideas.  But your puppy isn't being naughty he is just learning and probably playing with you the same as he did with his littermates.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 11:56:46 AM »
Hi this made me smile - my pup is 13 weeks tomorrow (got her at 8 weeks) and from 12 weeks on it was noticable how she was starting to push boundaries (in a puppy way!) - I have been calm and firm and consistent with requests. Distracting her with her own toys to chew on / play with has been good up to a point but it is clear she needs now more stimulation and cant wait to take her out for first walkies tomorrow!

I was recommended a good book - Training Spaniels by Joe Irving which advocates using the scruff to show them what's what only when really needed - no shouting, no smacking. I tried this when she wouldnt listen about leaving the cats alone wanting to play and was getting more and more excited so I scruffed her gently - she hated it! She whelped like I was really hurting her but I have continued to just hold her gently by the scruff when she wont listen - she now accepts it to the point if I only touch her gently by the scruff she obeys (gets 'down' off the sofa for example - great game waiting for me to say off then leaping up in the air doing a bit of a spin and landing on her feet looking at me saying da-dahh! then doing it again on the other sofa) - a gentle couple of scruffs and a low tone 'down' does it - well till next time! - but it gets her attention. She still doesnt really like it and pretends she is going to nip me but doesnt and I let go quickly as soon as she does what I ask.

As spaniels are so clever and love learning - she understood "sit" command pretty quick (I dont do treat training) using the command as soon as she did it naturally especially waiting for food to be delivered and she got the message really quick. So asking them to sit straight after asking them not to do something (like  'down') then saying 'good' also gets their attention on you - try it they love learning - I was amazed at how quick she stopped snatching toys from me after I ask her to sit, keep saying sit - get closer with toy - keep saying sit and she then is really tentative about taking it once it is at her nose! good dog! Loving her - key is training & stimulation and above all Fun - spaniels think training is fun - at this age in small bursts - but she is generally doing really well for her little age.

Anyway - pups are pups and as this is my first - I am learning myself!

Good luck with yours!

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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2013, 12:00:11 PM »
Please please don't use scruffing as a training technique  ph34r
Their are plenty of 'good' ways to train your pup without resorting to the above, as you have said they are very clever & love to learn their is no need to scruff them  :-\

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Re: Doogle does not like to be told off
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2013, 12:01:08 PM »
PS loving Doogle - what a cutie!