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Offline Jaysmumagain

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I know you are constantly hoping that every call gives you better news, but you are so right that it is only two days, and your darling girl has had major surgery and there must be a lot of bruising and swelling around the operation site, maybe when this starts to subside a better picture will emerge.

Sending hugs to you and your darling Lilith.
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Oh Lili you beautiful brave girl.  :luv: :luv: I am sending masses of positive healing thoughts to you and huge hugs for your mum for the long road ahead.  :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:

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Sending you lots of hugs  :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:

As already been said, 24 hours or so after the op, the swelling will start to increase so I wouldnt think you would see a huge difference until that starts to subside.

Start planning for her home coming I am sure it wont be long.  We are great at sending out positive thoughts xx



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What a shock for you, wishing you both a speedy recovery.
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I'm trying to remember what Darwin was like when I saw him post op.  He had his op on a Friday and I didn't see him until the Monday and then again on the Tuesday. I think by the Tuesday they had removed Darwin's IV pain relief.    As seeing me was distressing Darwin after I left, I didn't see him until he as discharged on the Friday.

You've got to remember that they've had such major surgery, so apart from appearing a little brighter maybe you won't see much improvement at the moment.   It is a long long road to recovery so at it's a case of managing your expectations, which I know is so difficult.

I'm trying to remember the timescales / milestones in Darwin's recovery, just so that you know what to expect.  Every dog  is different so the recovery process will vary. But don't expect miracles it does take a long time for them to recover.  I think they measure there recovery as complete or has reached a maximum at six months post op. And it does take 6 months!

For 4 weeks( we had initially been told 6 weeks) , it was total create rest apart from 3 wee breaks a day, carried to the garden and then "walked"  using a sling whilst in the garden.  After 2 weeks he had his staples removed.  Four weeks post op he had an appointment with the consultant at the Vet College.  He was clinical discharged.

Next four weeks it was a combination of crate rest and very small space rest, maybe 2m square space max with a little more walking with a sling, less being carried.  We had to cover most of our wooden floors with cheap runners / rugs as Darwin couldn't cope with the wooden flooring.  We would have started regular physio / hydro sessions at approx. 6 / 8 weeks post op.

It would have been 8 or 10 weeks before he had his first walk.  Which was with a sling supporting his back legs we went a total of 100 meters walk up the road!  Over the next week or so we reduced the amount of support we where giving with the sling until we stopped using it.  And slowly increased the distance we walked.  At this stage we switched from hydro threadmill sessions to hydro swimming sessions which worked much better for Darwin

It was probably nearly four months post op before we allowed him out in the garden for a wee , without us taking him outside with lead and harness.

We have then slowly built up this walks to 2 slow 20 mins lead walks and a 10 min slow evening walk.  We haven't got to the stage of allowing him any off lead time during walks. There are times when he would meet another dog and on lead try and play, but his back legs would collapse as he wasn't focusing on walking.

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Update #2 - Day Two after surgery...

Visited with Lili again today....considering how unhappy I was with the call this morning, things were better than I expected.

They'd taken the bandage off her wound and it looked a lot neater than I imagined it would. We counted twenty stitches and it looks terrible but it doesn't seem sore or anything so I hope it's healing well. She was getting a bit frustrated by trying to reach an itch near the wound site, so I hope that means feeling is coming in alive and well around there.

She's still not toileting on her own and but there's some twitching in her rear limbs and apparently that's a good sign. She seemed much brighter than yesterday and seemed a little keener to try and move a little bit more too. She was having a little try at scrambling off the table to get at some chicken the nurses bought in for us to give her along the counter top. She wolfed that down, and then ate about half a dozen milky biscuits and a piece of carrot. She wasn't fussed on the new treats I bought in for her, but I think she might want some comfort food and "tastes of home" maybe. She was very alert to everything going on around her and outside the room, and nosy as ever haha! Ears going up and down and her head tilting (I don't really recall seeing her do that yesterday) with words she's more familiar with at home - so I know my girl is still there inside her broken body.

Main thing for now is that she's bright, eating well and drinking well too. They're going to try and reduce the hard pain killers tomorrow and see how she copes. If she's not doing well they'll bump them back up but if she does okay they'll look to slowly wean her off them over the rest of the week. Apparently they like them to be off the opiates and peeing by themselves before they will even consider letting her home. Hoping that we'll get some positive news further into the week, but as always - I'm preparing myself to have to wait a while longer for that.

I'm still horribly worried to the point of being in this state of horrible numbness and "disassociation", I suppose you'd call it. Feeling sick all the time and I'm exhausted from the worry of it all, having a lot of weird health symptoms myself which I'm hoping aren't anything serious and I'm putting it all down to stress and anxiety right now. I managed to drive there today, rather than taxi-ing it, so I'm very pleased with that and hoping everything will hold up well enough to allow me to keep doing that for as long as I'm needing to.

I'm feeling more and more confident in her being there, as they're taking good care of her and she is most definately in the best place, but my God, the house isn't a home without her in it. It's weird being able to go to the toilet by myself without her busting the door down to find me, or getting her coming up and chirping at me when it's dinner time haha!

Anyways, here's a picture of her from today. I think she looks brighter even compared to yesterday. Big thanks again to everyone offering good wishes, support and advice. You guys are the best and all the nice messages are really helping me through this.



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@Darwin - Ah, I guess my visits to Lili are filling in the blanks for what may have happened with your boy on the first two days then. I have a worry that she might start getting distressed when we leave as she starts to get a little better. She was looking around a lot more today than she was, so I can see it possibly happening.

Yep. I'm trying hard not to put too many expectations on her. It's very early days. We don't know what time the operation happened exactly (sometime between 2pm when the surgeon got to the clinic and 7pm when he called with news) so it wasn't even 48 hours when we saw her today, and it was a massive operation. Three hours under aesthetic is huge for a person, I imagine it's so much harder on a dog. If I'd been through what she had, I don't think I'd be up and about either so I'm trying to think of it that way.

Considering how quickly it feels this year has gone, six months seems like nothing but at the same time, how slowly these last two days have gone I imagine it's going to seem like double that.

I wish there was some kind of "checklist" that you could run along and compare with, but like you said - they're all different. Even the surgeon said yesterday that some dogs do very little at the start then progress practically overnight, then some show initially positive signs and seem like they've got it in the bag and plateau before they're anywhere near where they need to be. I need to remember she's doing it her way, and just hope that taking it slow will mean a full recovery, even if it's not such a quick one. All we can know for sure right now is that if love could fix her, she'd be home by now.

I can't wait to hear the words "clinically discharged" but by the sounds of it that doesn't mean the fight is anywhere close to being over. Luckily we've got rugs or carpets in most rooms, so I'm hoping she'll do okay with getting around the house when she needs to. We've actually had some unused furniture moved out today in preparation for her coming home. I really hope that pet insurance covers the phsyio/hydro therapy, because by the sounds of it that's the most important thing. The surgery is only a tiny portion of the overall recovery.

Oh bless him! It sounds like his recovery was a real marathon for you all and I don't expect Lili's to be any different. It's so good to know that he got through it all, and that it can be done. It gives me continued hope that she'll beat this with time.

Thank you for your continued support and for giving me a rough idea of what to expect when. I'm hoping that she'll defy expectations and bounce back quicker and stronger than anticipated but I'm ready to help her fight and I'm coming up with all kinds of ways to make life at home as easy as possible for her, and me.

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Lily does look a lot brighter today, amazing considering all she has been through, she is clearly a fighter  :luv: 
Don't forget to take care of yourself through this, it must be emotionally and physically exhausting for you.
Keeping everything crossed here for another positive update tomorrow x

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Thinking of you and hope you have some better news2s tomorrow
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Glad to see she's looking a bit brighter and hope you'll see little improvements every day, - she looks like a little fighter! :luv:
So pleased that you're able to chat to someone going through the same thing, Darwin's story has touched us all and is a prime example of what love and determination can achieve, I hope with all my heart that Lilli's progress continues in the same way.
As Ben's Mum says, its important now that you take of yourself.
Sending out positve vibes and healing thoughts still, to both of you. All the best.!

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Things sound much brighter, happy to hear that.

Look after yourself as well x

Offline Jaysmumagain

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All thing crossed that Lili is improving today, sound good that she is trying to investigate the wound site.

Sending all positive and healing thoughts

Julie

P.S she reminds me of some one - same colouring :luv:
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Offline LiliPickles

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Hey all....Thanks so much for the lovely messages of support and encouragement. It's such a boost to know people care and have us both in your hearts.

Just called the vets for her morning check-up....no change in her back legs unfortunately and she's still not peeing by herself but they're going to reduce the pain meds today to see how she goes, so they warned us she might not be too bright when we visit this afternoon. They've also said they will try to teach me to express her bladder today, so they can look to bringing her home soon. It's really thrown me for a loop as we thought we had at least a week to get ready. Now in a panic to try and get things ordered and set up for her. I desperately want her to come home because I miss her so much, but at the same time I'm very scared about it because I know the nurses are giving her the best care and I'm not sure how I'll measure up. It's going to be a trade off between what I want and what she needs I think...I'll let you all know how things go later today.

Thanks again for all the lovely messages :)

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As with humans I think they recover better being at home as they can relax more. Best wishes as always.

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 :luv: You love her to bits!!!  you won't do anything wrong - you'll be absolutely FINE!!! Take a pen and pencil with you when you pick her up and write down the vital instructions, it'll help you remember what the nurses have said.  I agree with Mark, she'll be far more relaxed at home, as will you, and that goes a long way in the recovery process.
Best of luck and  :bigarmhug: and cuddles for Lilli!!

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Definitely looking a lot brighter in that photo. And trust yourself, you know your girl best, and she will be happier at home. 
Great idea to write things down, there is always information overload.  Take care.