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Offline DennyK

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Raw Feeding Again: and I'm not sorry!
« on: August 15, 2006, 12:29:29 PM »
Paddy finished his six week course of anti-biotics two weeks ago on Thursday.  Within two days, we had diarrhoea.  Within a further two days, we had mucus.  By one week - we had bad breath beginning, flatulence beginning (been a wind-free pup for two months), blood in his pooh and skin scurf.

I read the raw feeding books and realised I was in danger of "paralysis by analysis".  After meeting Petra at the Wag & Bone show and talking about raw feeding, I just did it last Friday, because I can't think of anything else to try and the books were reassuring and persuasive.  Final conviction was seeing the scurf on Paddy - he didn't want to be stroked over his hind quarters because the skin had dried out so much.  Went to the butchers, got a load of minced lamb, minced turkey, chicken wings, chicken backs and oxtail (two vertebrae long for the thick top end, three vertebrae long for the skinny end).

Went to get Paddy from the pet sitter - told her husband to bin the remaining half tin of Chappie and took Paddy home.

Three chicken wings and some pureed broccoli and carrots, with Dorwest's Tree Barks powder and Keepers' Mix powder (kelp and various odds & sods for minerals and vitamins and fibre) mixed in.  Paddy looked at me as if I was insane, although this was partly because OH and I were hovering like anxious parents over his head to see what his reaction was.  Totally agree with Claire's post on another thread: he scowled at me like "what the bloody hell do you think you're doing, missus?  Eh?"

Started to ignore him, didn't work.  Then put chicken wings in his bowl (nice one courtesy of ClaireP...) - wings swiped as fast as he could move, out to the lawn and set to work.  It was so lovely to see him taking time to eat instead of inhaling his food in a manic sort of desperation....tail wagging nineteen to the dozen the whole time.

So, four days in: skin almost cleared up already, poohs are firm but not hard, lighter in colour, no mucus in them, no blood, much less volume produced.  Breath is clear again, no wind and Paddy is enjoying his food so much.  Only "not a chance, luv" reaction since the first night was a rainbow trout fillet: thought he'd go mad for it (it smelled fishy) but no, didn't like it.  So gave him a tin of Penel's recommended sardines in tomato sauce. 

Chicken backs seem ace - little bits of organs still attached, meat and skin as well as the bone.  Do you think I need to buy some heart/liver/kidney anyway?  I'd planned to feed some once a week in addition.

I spent an hour on Friday night dividing up all the food into portion sizes in freezer bags and had to rejig freezer to accommodate it.  Am now feeding mince with Keeper's Mix and Tree Barks powder plus pureed veg in the mornings - saves time as I have to get Pads out the door by 6.45/7am latest.  Evenings - meaty bones.

What would you recommend as a recreational marrow bone for chewing and getting to the marrow?

Any other tips/gaps you can recommend?

Yippeee....here's hoping it sorts Paddy out: if he stabilises I won't need to go to see Penel's vet, if not...then I've got his number.

Denise

PS - eyes have stopped running again, too...

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Re: Raw Feeding Again: and I'm not sorry!
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2006, 12:34:51 PM »
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY for  raw feeding!!!!!!!!!!!  :D  ;)

Fingers crossed it carries on working for your poor pooch and is funny bot!!  :D

He'll soon be wolfing those bones down if he is anything like mine, they enjoy them, but they have a developed technique!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Raw Feeding Again: and I'm not sorry!
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2006, 12:41:17 PM »
Mega wow for such a quick improvement - long may it continue! 

Good for you for giving it a go  :D
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Re: Raw Feeding Again: and I'm not sorry!
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2006, 01:06:48 PM »
Hi, I raw feed Archie who is 13 months old, we decided to raw feed after Archie would not eat for 10 days, hated any type of kibble.  I measure by eye and his waistline, I keep his waist under 20inches, if he nears this then I either cut the food back a bit or up his exercise.

I feed every day for morning feed something with bone, ie chicken (chicken quarter does two meals) or rabbit (1 rabbit does three meals!) in the evening he will have any of, kidneys, ox heart, lambs heart, belly pork, lamb breast, pigs ear, once a week he will have tinned fish in oil with a whole smashed up egg and his worming powder (DE).  For a treat or if I want to amuse him for a while whilst I go out I give him a pigs trotter, as I dont have a garden Archie has these in his crate, which he is very happy about.  I do not give any veg at all cos a dogs digestive system was not created for that and they cant digest it, afterall they wouldnt eat them in the wild!!

Archie is thriving, his coat is lovely and shiny, his teeth are whiter than white and I never have to clean them, his poops are lovely firm and small!!  Archie is a happy little boy who loves his life, he shows this by his love for me,the family and anybody that stops to talk to him, he loves his exercise.  Even when you tell Archie off his tail wags like no tomorrow.

This is my opinion of raw feeding, it has worked for and Archie and we are both happy with it.  I hope it works for you, it sounds like it is. ;)



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Re: Raw Feeding Again: and I'm not sorry!
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2006, 02:08:35 PM »
 

I do not give any veg at all cos a dogs digestive system was not created for that and they cant digest it, afterall they wouldnt eat them in the wild!!

Archie is thriving, his coat is lovely and shiny, his teeth are whiter than white and I never have to clean them

This is my opinion of raw feeding, it has worked for and Archie and we are both happy with it.  I hope it works for you, it sounds like it is. ;)

Archiebuy...good for you. You will be familiar with the phrase, "fit as a butchers dog"...I wonder what all that is about?  I dont know how to link to another thread, but I added some of my experience with raw feeding to another thread yesterday.  (have a lok at my recent posts)

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2006, 04:17:09 PM »
 :shades: what can I say - I need a "cheering" smiley  :D

I hope he continues to improve !!!

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2006, 04:25:45 PM »
Fantastic news Denise - long may his new found health continue! Bella's been on the diet for 10 months now and is really thriving on it, not a single ear or eye infection for 10 months where before they were about twice a month. I noticed with her after about 3 months of the diet she suddenly kind of bloomed and she's stayed that way ever since.

Keep us updated on how it's going and well done for taking the plunge, I'm sure you won't look back.  :D
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2006, 10:19:46 PM »
Raw really does make a difference to your dogs health. Well done for having a go ;)
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Re: Raw Feeding Again: and I'm not sorry!
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2006, 10:26:02 PM »
Great for giving it a go, and good to hear you have had positive results  :D We are back on BARF after a few recent stays in kennels - it makes such a difference in such a few days  :D

Too much marrow gives Molo the squits, btw - so you might want to ration it at first to see how Paddy gets on with it  ;)
As an alternative, You could fill a hollow bone with raw mince and then freeze it; it lasts for hours  ph34r
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Re: Raw Feeding Again: and I'm not sorry!
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2006, 10:46:28 PM »
Glad to hear that Paddy is OK  ;)

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Re: Raw Feeding Again: and I'm not sorry!
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2006, 06:51:57 PM »
Brilliant news :D, so pleased to hear Paddy's health is much better.

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Re: Raw Feeding Again: and I'm not sorry!
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2006, 10:18:13 PM »
That sounds really good. Keep us posted, and lots of info for those of us who haven't yet taken the plunge,

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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2006, 10:36:39 PM »
YIPEEEE!!!!!!  WHOOHOO!!!

Denise, i am so so so pleased!!!   Absoloutely brilliant!!!
Long may it continue!!

Dill loves his raw food (have just spent an hour whizzing veg and freezing it in portions with raw green tripe (urgh what a smell)

I noticed when Dill stayed at my MIL for 6 days when we went on hols his health declined... ( I had given her Nature Diet to feed to him)
When we picked him up his eyes seemed much more weepy, he had a few hotspots on his skin and his pooh was runny....
Within a week of being back on raw all this cleared up. 

I will certainly never look back - I love feeding Dill this way, love the variety in his diet, he enjoys his food so much and it is lovely seeing him crunch away on a bone.   Tonight for his tea he had lamb ribs, yesterday it was chicken legs, he had tripe for breakfast this morning.... I just get excited by all the variety and hope Dill does too....

Whilst I did loads of reading to start, now I dip in and out as and when I have a query.   It seems kind of natural now, I don't worry about an exact mix of veg, just go by a variety of colour ( ::)) and in terms of how much to feed I just go by Dill - larger portions if he looks thin, smaller if he looks big....

Please keep us posted on the gorgeous Paddy's progress!!


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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2006, 11:13:53 PM »
Mine had a huge handful of blueberries in their veg mix this time - cos I bought too many  ::) :lol:  so they had spinach, watercress, a few carrots, a couple of apples, a couple of courgettes, 2 or 3 red peppers, and the blueberries  :D  twill last about a month cos I did loads !

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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2006, 10:21:09 AM »
Bella often gets blueberries as well, we have them in alot as we have them with cereal in the mornings, so her veg mix is usually red or yellow pepper, apple, celery, carrot, spinach, blueberries and strawberries if we have them in, smells lovely!

She loves her veg, especially broccolli, tomatoes and peppers, always comes and sits prettily in the kitchen to get a bit of tomato or pepper if you're chopping them and gets the occasional stem of purple sprouting broccolli as a treat (although obviously she can't process them unless pulped so these are just great low-calorie treats as far as I'm concerned!  :D).

Her fave meals are:

- nature's menu frozen tripe and beef
- sardines and raw egg (usually gets them at the same time)
- breast of lamb

she always goes and pleasure rolls on our front doormat after these meals, with much grunting and pleasure growling :005:

It's great the way they love the food sooooo much, when she was on kibble I'd say "dindins" and she'd trot happily into the kitchen to wait for it - say that to her now and she leaps up and literally goes into a spin out of excitement!  :lol:
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