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TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« on: February 23, 2008, 06:04:35 PM »
I had some very helpful replies to my concern over Lucy's behaviour, so heres a new one in the last few days i have been talking to my breeder the stud dog i bred Lucy with has been offered to me to help Lucy, my breeder is moving and will soon have to rehome her boy. She thinks this may help Lucys behaviour by having company, they got on very well when they were mated,  but then they would they did only have one thing on their minds!  Does anyone have any experience on whether this could work Lucy is 5 months older than the boy and obviously i wouldnt have him until July because Lucy is being spayed in May. I would love to hear if anyone has two cockers and how they got on  living together? :-\

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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2008, 06:08:53 PM »
I think there is a real risk of making a small problem bigger by trying to solve it by getting another dog  :-\
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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2008, 07:48:08 PM »
I agree with Rachel in that getting another dog may not be the answer

Why do they want to rehome the other dog anyway
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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2008, 09:51:45 PM »
I agree with Rachel in that getting another dog may not be the answer

Why do they want to rehome the other dog anyway

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2008, 10:42:16 PM »
I agree with Rachel in that getting another dog may not be the answer

Why do they want to rehome the other dog anyway

Ditto both Rachel & Penny

Yip I agree too, also you may have a huge humping problem too if he has been a stud dog   :-\

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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2008, 05:45:12 PM »
hiya thanks for replies, My breeder is not rehoming her boy but has spoken to me about |Lucy's problems since her puppies have gone, her boy has been a stud dog but is being castrated and she has offered me him to see if Lucy is any better with him, if it does not work out he will not be rehomed to anyone else its just that we fell in love with him when we mated Lucy and he is such a lovely dog, he would live with her daughter if it does not work with our family, this is because he lives outside dont worry he has other girls with him they are farm dogs but the boy is not a worker but a real lap dog and loves home comforts, what i want to know is can two dogs live quite happily together, i know a few people with two dogs who have said it is not a problem and one lady in particular bought a puppy to keep her two year old company and she says if she knew her two year old would be this happy she would of done it before, i just think my Lucy loves other dogs and has stayed at my Mums with her Labrador and she just loves the company and the playing, I would love to have this little chap but not at the expense of my girl, could loving two dogs not work? If anyone has two dog experience i would love to hear, Lucy was such a good mum and loves meeting up with her pups, I have had the boy for a weekend and although they played Lucy was quite sulky he went home on Sunday night and Lucy came into season on Monday no wonder she was sulky and how dumb am i for not knowing she was due i had checked my dates and misread her last season Oooops!!! I would love this to work but dont want my girly upset i looked after my friends castrated American Cocker last year when she went on holiday and they got on fine, do you thinks its worth giving this little chap a chance or am i just letting my heart rule my head, sorry for long winded message :-\

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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2008, 06:00:00 PM »
There are no guarantees when you introduce a new dog to a home where there is an established dog; they may get on well, they may ignore each other, or they may never get on and could have fights that lead to one or other needing veterinary care  :-\  There is a big difference between dogs that spend time together and enjoy each others company but live in separate homes, and forcing those same two dogs to live together..... :-\

More importantly in this case, you have a dog with a behavioural problem (a problem for you, not her) - and you may well end up with TWO dogs with behavioural problems if you take on another before you have resolved the issues with your current dog.  TBH, I don't think much of a breeder who is prepared to rehome a dog "to see if it works out" into a home where there are already issues, just because you liked him.......surely the best thing for this dog is to move to a new home with the breeders daughter ?  :huh:
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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2008, 06:03:17 PM »
Need my memory refreshed on what Lucy's problems are. Was it that she was being clingy and hyper after the puppies?
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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2008, 06:16:50 PM »
Need my memory refreshed on what Lucy's problems are. Was it that she was being clingy and hyper after the puppies?

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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2008, 06:38:55 PM »
Need my memory refreshed on what Lucy's problems are. Was it that she was being clingy and hyper after the puppies?

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Thats what I thought. Quite honestly I'll break with the majority here and say that another dog may just help (I think I would get Lucy spayed tho, doesn't sound like she handled the weaning and "loss" of her puppies well. Some of this may be due to her coming back in season too ) If you can arrange a trial period for the male to live with you for a couple of weeks to see if it works out I don't see why not. Sounds like there is a safety net for him in place, that there is another home for him to go to should things not work out with Lucy and Kalu, that it's not a desperation situation

There are plenty of us here with 2 (or more  ph34r :005:) dogs here, it's a bit more work, and just like people who live together, they will have their "moments" too. While I wouldn't look to it to be THE answer to her problems, it certainly sounds to me like it has the possibility to help, and, as stated before, it could be found out with a trial period, which it sounds like the breeder is agreeable to
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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2008, 08:01:59 PM »
Hi Spaniel Crazy, thanks for your reply as i said Lucy has always been a moaner she has defo got worse since the puppies went, she paces up and down like a poor polar bear in the zoo, constantly whinging she barks when one of us goes upstairs, goes bolistic when someone knocks at the door, its like she is always waiting for something to happen she never seems at peace, we all do a lot with her, and she gets plenty of attention i habe two boys who love her, they play football with her, we play seek and find  my friend brings her American Cocker round a lot me meet up with her pups on a regular basis she should not be bored, she is a lovely dog but i will say ive introduced a puppy pen round her usual bed (and no she is not locked in it) but when the door goes i say to her in your bed and although she continues to cry her barking is getting less  i think it could be working, :005: however she came into season on Monday and seems to be a bit more at peace with herself (she is being spayed by the way in May,) she is a very uptight dog and just loves attention people and dog.  I very nearly kept one of her puppies but was told that very often it dosent work, so i let the last little boy go, i wonder now if i should of kept in there is just no way of telling though. Please dont get my message wrong my breeder is not trying to be rid of her dog, but they do live outside and she has to give up her farm due to ill health the two girls are workers and will continue working with her husband but the boy after being castrated will go to her daughters its a shame but my breeder is actually allergic to dogs but loves them and they are well cared for ( i would not of bought my dog from her otherwise) i know the other four puppies and their owners are still in touch with the breeder and she tells me none of them have Lucy's problem, (perhaps Lucy's Mum dropped her at birth)  :005: The breeder still has Lucy's mum and she is so calm and lovely, Lucy is lovely just a nutcase ;). If i do decide to have the little chap it will happen gradually for weekends and the Easter Holidays and then for good the start of the Summer School Hols as im home all hols then, I would just like to THANKYOU for your answer and has given me encouragement that maybe Lucy needs a bit more than just us boring humans :blink:

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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2008, 06:19:12 PM »
i got max when ellie was about 18 months ive never looked back, at first ellie was a bit jelous but they play and love each other to bits now, max is always following ellie around when they are out  :005: i think it is lovely to watch them playing :shades:

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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2008, 06:29:34 PM »
Hi Lisa, Thankyou so much for adding that comment, i think my mind is made up im going to have Lucy Lou spayed in May and pick up my new boy the beginning of the School Summer Holidays as i will be home all hols then, in between that time my hubby and i have decided to have him for weekends and maybe longer over Easter and pop Lucy down to theirs and spend some time in the fields near their farm with the two dogs, i will get him castrated when i have him for good as he has been a stud dog so that may help aswell, thanks again it was really encouraging ;)  ;)  :blink:

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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2008, 07:14:23 PM »
There are no guarantees when you introduce a new dog to a home where there is an established dog; they may get on well, they may ignore each other, or they may never get on and could have fights that lead to one or other needing veterinary care  :-\  There is a big difference between dogs that spend time together and enjoy each others company but live in separate homes, and forcing those same two dogs to live together..... :-\

More importantly in this case, you have a dog with a behavioural problem (a problem for you, not her) - and you may well end up with TWO dogs with behavioural problems if you take on another before you have resolved the issues with your current dog.  TBH, I don't think much of a breeder who is prepared to rehome a dog "to see if it works out" into a home where there are already issues, just because you liked him.......surely the best thing for this dog is to move to a new home with the breeders daughter ?  :huh:
I agree and cannot see how another dog will help the issues you described in the other thread.

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Re: TWO COCKERS SAME AGE MALE AND FEMALE
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2008, 01:24:43 AM »
, this is because he lives outside dont worry he has other girls with him they are farm dogs


Just be aware that because he was used at stud and lives outside, he may have housetraining issues and may want to lift his leg in your house  :-\  I would continue to have a lot of talks with the breeder and make very certain that he can go back if this doesn't work out for any reason
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