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Offline elaine.e

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Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« on: September 04, 2008, 10:44:05 AM »
William, who's castrated and 4 years old, is very itchy at the moment and his coat is dry. He scratches behind his elbows, nibbles at his sides and scratches his ears as well. He doesn't have fleas and I know that his ears are fine as he was at the vet yesterday for plaque removal and they checked and cleaned his ears at the same time, commenting afterwards that his ears were pretty clean anyway. I forgot to ask them about his itchiness when I collected him!

He's groomed frequently and his coat isn't matted or especially dirty. I clean his ears once a week, check his mouth folds regularly (they're a little bit smelly at the moment and I'm using hibiscrub). He's show bred and I keep him in fairly full coat but with his face, throat, insides of ears, insides of elbows, under his tail and round his boy bits (such as they are) clipped short.

He's fed on Burns and I've heard that can cause dry skin and coat, but I don't want to change him to anything else. He likes it, it's easy for me to keep his weight stable with it and, best of all, since changing to it he no longer throws up small quantities of yellow bile first thing in the morning. He used to do that about once a week when he was on Arden Grange and to a lesser extent when he was on James Wellbeloved.

I've just started him on Yumega Oil so I'm hoping that will improve things, but would also like to try a shampoo that will be soothing. Has anyone any suggestions please?

I haven't changed anything at home in the way of cleaning or washing his bedding etc. so I don't think that's the cause.

His walks are nearly all in the New Forest, so tend to be on short grass. I know that mud and dirty water irritate his skin, but luckily for me he doesn't like swimming!

Any suggestions welcome please.

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 11:05:20 AM »
Hello there,

I can't help you with the shampoo, hopefully someone else can. However, I have a Cocker and a Weimaraner both fed on Burns and they both developed dryish skin/coats and a little bit of scurf last winter. Like you I started adding a bit of oil (Salmon oil) and in a few weeks that sorted the problem, if I run out of the salmon oil I just add olive oil. Hope it starts to work for William soon too.

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 04:17:46 PM »
My last cocker Twix had this problem. The vet gave me a shampoo that sorted it out no problem. Unfortunately I can't remember what it was called, but it smelt of marzipan. Not much help I know  ph34r but hopefully your vet might know which one it is if you mention it to them.

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2008, 04:48:51 PM »
He's groomed frequently and his coat isn't matted or especially dirty.

Do you do him yourself, or does he go to the groomer's? If the latter, they may be using a shampoo that doesn't agree with him.
I would suggest something gentle but cleansing like a tea tree shampoo.

The Yumega Oil should help but does take a few weeks to start showing results.

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2008, 05:10:31 PM »
We use tea tree shampoo and Salmon oil  :blink:

They have lovely coats now  :blink: :luv:

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2008, 06:40:01 PM »
I've started to give Vita-Oil to help with coat, Heidi hasn't got dry/itchy but does need to encourage a bit more coat, believe this should help with both issues... http://www.doreenpaige.co.uk/6.html# scroll down page, another purchase from the City Birmingham show  ::)

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2008, 11:22:45 PM »
It could be an allergy to grass or grass mites.My one bitch always starts scratching in the spring when new grass is coming up,this lasts nearly all through the summer.It seems worse when we,ve been over playing fields etc.that get mowed regularly.So i changed where i walk,which is over wild grass used for mowing hay or silage and she has hardly scratched at all.I have all mine on Osmonds sho-glo and Yummega.




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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2008, 07:31:56 AM »
Thanks for all the advice.

Michelle, I groom him myself and haven't changed my shampoo, so it shouldn't be that, but I'll change him to Tea Tree Shampoo and see if that helps. He's only been on the Yumega for a few days but hopefully that will improve things gradually.

It could be an allergy to grass or grass mites.My one bitch always starts scratching in the spring when new grass is coming up,this lasts nearly all through the summer.It seems worse when we,ve been over playing fields etc.that get mowed regularly.So i changed where i walk,which is over wild grass used for mowing hay or silage and she has hardly scratched at all.I have all mine on Osmonds sho-glo and Yummega.

We usually walk in the New Forest, so on grass that has been grazed down to nothing or in woodland. But we walk in longer grass on chalk downland once a week or so and friends of ours say their Jack Russell is always at his coat and paws when he's walked there at this time of year, so grass mites could be a factor.

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2008, 12:00:35 AM »
Have you thought of quistel products?  their website is

https://www.quistel.com

The suggestions about salmon oil are good - quistel also do an oil.  I read that ear mites can migrate throughout the body causing itchiness, licking and nibbling - between the toes and other warm spots under the arms and the groin area and it doesn't take long for them to do so  :-\ Thornits is marvellous stuff and the instructions explain all this - if you use it between the toes and in the ears (and the ends of the ears) it is supposed to sort out any mite problem and it doesn't cost too much either - you can get this from Petcetera etc.

Might be worth a try?   ;)


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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2008, 06:01:43 PM »
Just had a look at the Quistel website and I'll be ordering the shampoo and conditioner, looks really good. I don't think it's an ear mite problem as his ears are definitely clean and he doesn't lick his paws, nibble his toes etc. But I might either buy some Quistel ear cleaner or try Thornit as my current ear cleaner is running out.

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008, 11:48:09 PM »
Mine are just on evening primrose oil
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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2008, 01:53:45 AM »
Just had a look at the Quistel website and I'll be ordering the shampoo and conditioner, looks really good. I don't think it's an ear mite problem as his ears are definitely clean and he doesn't lick his paws, nibble his toes etc. But I might either buy some Quistel ear cleaner or try Thornit as my current ear cleaner is running out.

Thanks

Hope you like it - from what I can gather you can't see the little blighters if they have ear mites - I just use Thornits as routine to avoid him picking them up - cant hurt.  Hope the quistel helps  ;) Couldn't help but notice you have an orange roan as well  ;)




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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2008, 08:30:31 AM »


Hope you like it - from what I can gather you can't see the little blighters if they have ear mites - I just use Thornits as routine to avoid him picking them up - cant hurt.  Hope the quistel helps  ;) Couldn't help but notice you have an orange roan as well  ;)




Yes, I've always had solids before but really wanted an orange roan and was lucky enough to hear about a locally bred litter as soon as I started looking. Wills is by a dog that I already knew of, having met him and his owner/breeder briefly at a show about a year before William was born. The lady who bred William was a first time breeder who wanted a one off litter from her show bred but not show quality bitch and went about it the right way, seeking good advice etc.

William is very handsome and has a very laid back personality. I didn't buy him to show or anything, although I used to show a long time ago. We do agility and have great fun with that and win a few rosettes, but mainly he's just a real delight to own and live with.

Is there a bigger photo of yours anywhere on COL?

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2008, 07:30:40 PM »


Hope you like it - from what I can gather you can't see the little blighters if they have ear mites - I just use Thornits as routine to avoid him picking them up - cant hurt.  Hope the quistel helps  ;) Couldn't help but notice you have an orange roan as well  ;)




Yes, I've always had solids before but really wanted an orange roan and was lucky enough to hear about a locally bred litter as soon as I started looking. Wills is by a dog that I already knew of, having met him and his owner/breeder briefly at a show about a year before William was born. The lady who bred William was a first time breeder who wanted a one off litter from her show bred but not show quality bitch and went about it the right way, seeking good advice etc.

William is very handsome and has a very laid back personality. I didn't buy him to show or anything, although I used to show a long time ago. We do agility and have great fun with that and win a few rosettes, but mainly he's just a real delight to own and live with.

Is there a bigger photo of yours anywhere on COL?



Your dog sounds lovely!   :luv:  There are loads of Dax but heres my most recent pic - I need to do some more casual ones - its been a month without very many at all  ;)

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Re: Help for dry coat/itchy skin
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 10:12:05 AM »
Dax is gorgeous and has a very shiny coat. There's a picture of William taken several months ago in the agility section of COL. It's entitled "Wannabe agility dog William" and is on page 3.