Apolgies - vomiting yellow bile stuff!!!

[laurenollie]

Hi all

Ollie is beginnig to worry us a little bit recently - more so becasue my OH is a hyperchondric!

Ollie has been vomitting up yellow bile, about once a week. It usually happens early hours of the morning between 5 - 6 ish am, the noise wakes me as I'm such a light sleeper. I normally get down to find only 1 or 2 small piles no more. It started when we had the bad snow and I blamed it on him eating too much snow!! Can't blame the snow now.

So anyone any ideas? I'm fairly sure its nothing serious but I would kill myself if it was a sign of something more serious and I ignored it!

He is fine in himself every other way (although this week he has been a bit mopy but I think thats becasue last week all his routines where changed as OH was away for a bit and I was off work and we did lots of extra walks!!), he scoffs his breakfast down when he's fed after he's had the 'sick' episode - his breakfast is fed between 7-9 am depending on the day. He's never brought up food or anything its always the yellow bile stuff!!

Any ideas?

L&O X

[Sheryl]

Empty sounds like.  Try giving him a biscuit or some dry toast later on at night just to put something on his tum

[MaggieR]

Maggie had a bout of doing this round October time and I think its basically down to their stomachs being empty and if they stir overnight it just makes them feel a bit sick... I started giving her a couple of dry biscuits at bedtime and she settled down again.  Stupid me then got a bit blase about it and stopped again, and she was fine for ages.... then we had another episode of it last week so we are back to couple of biccies before bed!

[laurenollie]

Interesting!!!

He does get a bed time biccie - usually a gracy bone at about half nine - I go to bed really early!!! So do you think this is a bit too early and he can't wait till morning?

Would it help feeding tea a bit later too? He's fed at about 5pm most days - ocassionally later if we are out or busy!!

L&O x

[Top Barks]

sounds empty to me too.bayley is like this if i don't give him a couple of bickys last thing

[phoenix]

Yep, another one here needs his bedtime snack!

[Jessie_Pup]

Dylan too, late night biccy works wonders

[Sheryl]

I wouldn't have altered his mealtime, just give him something before you go to bed x

[laurenollie]

I'll try him with two biccies at bed time them! Ollie will be very pleased!

Now for the techinical question - why does being empty make them sick??

L&O x

[MaggieR]

Think its to do with the level of acid in the stomach.... same as if you leave it too long sometimes before you eat you can hear you own stomach gurgling and feel a bit sick.

[Guelder Rose]

Rosie used to have this until she suffered an acute bout of pancreatitis - thereafter she was on a low fat diet and she never vomited the bile in the early morning again. 

I tended to think that the bile was a warning sign that all was not well - I couldn't think of any other reason why the vomiting of bile in the early morning would have stopped otherwise as the only change in her diet was to lower the fat content. 

She wasn't on a particularly high fat diet prior to the pancreatitis, so I guess she just had a slightly lower tolerance to fat in her diet than other dogs.  Cockers tend to suffer from pancreatitis more than other breeds - so I'm more careful to restrict fatty foods with Grace as I know only too well that it is better to prevent this than treat it!

[maccie75]

Hi There - I have Marco who is 6 months old every now and again he does the same thing in the morning about 6am I mentioned it to a friend who has a Lhaso and he is the same - if they are hungry - so Marco gets a biccie before bed now 

[floydlennon]

we dont feed floyd his tea till 7 then he gets his carrot when daddy goes to work at 830 and his 2  biscuits at 10 b4 bed but i have a big boy lol

[aliceandlouis]

Nothing to add to the wisdom already posted, just wanted to say that I hope Ollie's little problem soon resolves itself - they are so precious to us that seeing them poorly is very upsetting.

[elaine.e]

William used to do this when he was younger despite always having a bedtime biscuit. He was fed on James Wellbeloved and we switched him to Arden Grange but still had the same problem. Eventually we switched again to Burns and the problem stopped like magic. He now has Burns in the morning and raw food in the evening and is still OK with that.

So if the extra bedtime biscuit doesn't do the trick it might be worth thinking about changing his food. William definitely has a bit of a sensitive tummy and it took me a while to find out what suited him best.