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what have I let myself in for !!
« on: April 12, 2010, 05:04:14 PM »
well, after meeting up with Jenny (jaspersmum) and Meg and seeing the fantastic Charlie in action, im booked into ringcraft tonight and hoping to go to coventry cocker on the 30th

fingers crossed they can help me turn a barkymachine and a lickymachine into 2 fantastic show dogs

just spoke to the lady who runs the lessons and she shows cockers .... so she will know the breed and pick out all of my grooming faults / what they need to improve on.

Phil

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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 05:24:02 PM »
the road to ruin  :011:

Have a great time!
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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2010, 05:25:23 PM »
Hope you enjoy it, I've just looked on your posts to see some what your puppy now looks like and  :o :o :o you haven't posted any of her since last year.

Photo's of the gorgeous girlies please  :luv: :luv:



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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 05:40:08 PM »
good luck for tonight! sure you'll have fun and get hooked!

awhh the fantasticly smelly Charlie now!

Have a good time!

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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2010, 06:14:35 PM »
It was good to meet you at last Phil  :D We obviously couldn't of frightened you off too much  :005:

Hopefully you have received the email last night and there's an envelope on it's way to you too  ;)  Have a good time tonight and we'll see you with Esme and Mabel on the 30th...  There's a couple more schedules in the envelope too - got to get you going haven't we  :005:

About time you posted some pics though  :shades:

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 07:06:24 PM »
thanks for the good wishes, its helped settle the nerves ;)

OK, I'll do some photos of both of them, oddly enough for a part time photographer I dont have many pictures of them recently

I'll correct that and send some to COL

Phil

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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 08:33:17 PM »
Will see you on the 30th Phil ;)
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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 10:36:35 PM »
thanks for the good wishes, its helped settle the nerves ;)

Hope the training went well tonight Phil....

Same time, Same place this Saturday - Sarah is coming too this week so there will be a few more cockers to watch this time especially if all three of the Brimbecks are attending ;)

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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 10:45:56 PM »
Right ....

2 barky cockers at a ringcraft class was not the best start to the evening
both are bessotted with me, which is great in some respects, but not when your getting someone else to hold the dog while you stack the other

having the person who ran the place look over both dogs, they have said they are both underweight and narrow chested (which she also said is a breed fault and to find one that is not is rare), Esme also does not have much angle in her rear legs but may grow into it, I think thats what she said.

Mabel when she walked her rear was fine, but her fronts are in at the knees so to speak as she does not have enough chest to push them out
Esme would not walk, but when "dropped" she had square legs a the front which apparently is a good sign

Grooming wise they both need work, and Mabel needs to put some coat on (along with the weight) and Esme needs some work, but then she has only had her head stripped by me

what I found supprising is that I was told to use a coat king, as it will not damage the coat only clipping will do this, the person running it (who breeds and shows cockers uses one on her SH CH bitch and has done for years she tells me, so im in a dilema there too

they also recommended water spray etc to help with the stopping barking, but im not sure if thats the right way to go, as I dont like subversive methods, yet I also want it sorting as its been going on too long

looks like Im a long way off cov cocker, but I will get them or one into an open soon, I just need them not to get thrown out of the ring for barking or being a loon

Im a little disheartened to be honest, as yes I know showing is hard work and accept that, and also accept that there are groups of people/breeders/judges that may stick together, thats the same in any competative arena, be that dogs or photography, or anything else.

I respect the knowledge that I was shown tonight and kindly turned down the coat king but accepted the offer of using the thinning scissors .... not sure if thats still right or not, I will go next week to see if things are any better for me, but I need to stop this barking, else its a none starter


thanks for listening
Phil

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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2010, 10:48:11 PM »
With the weight, they are both good "pet" weights, and we have just got mabel to loose about 2 lb, and it seems to show she needs about another 3 putting back on .....

recomendation was to feed green tripe with their arden grange

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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2010, 11:02:50 PM »
Ooh er - can't say I agree with quite a bit of what you were told but that's the thing, you will get lots of different advice depending on who you speak to which can be very confusing for newcomers. One thing I would suggest though is not to take your girls together to ringcraft - you'll find it easier if you concentrate on one at a time (specially if they are easily distracted and prone to barky behaviour)

Don't be too disheartened - it takes time and lots of practice to master new skills like show handling and presentation but remember that everybody (no matter how successful they are now) was new once and probably felt exactly the same as you do now ;)
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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2010, 11:06:36 PM »
Hi Jane

thanks, I would not normaly take two at the same time, but was asked to take both so they could see them both and what I had to work with

its just about local enough for me to do some with one and then drive back and swap if I needed to get them both handled

I think I need to see another ringcraft class and see whats involved there, to get a measure on whats the "norm" as its a differnet world to general obedience training etc

And yes, I also appreciate that everyone is new once, I had that in my mind as I walked through the door

Cheers
PHil

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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 11:08:08 PM »
is there anyone else in the tamworth (staffordshire) area who goes to ringcraft that could recommend anywhere, or shows that would consider meeting up sometime ?

Cheers
Phil

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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2010, 11:13:39 PM »
Try here to see if any other ringcrafts http://www.clubcorner.co.uk/dogs/ringcraftclubs.htm


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Re: what have I let myself in for !!
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 08:14:45 AM »
We go to South Staffs Ringcraft in Shenstone at the village hall its on Tuesday nights starting at 8:00  :D

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HTH