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Offline KellyT

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distressed & 'in pain'
« on: January 19, 2012, 07:42:20 PM »
Hi all.. I've been a member for some time, and I frequently read but don't frequently post  :D

I'm posting tonight because we're not sure what is going on with our 8 year old cocker Jennie.  It's quite a long story so I will try to be as brief as possible whilst trying to remember everything!

It starts 2 Sundays ago.  Jennie had been fine all day - we'd had a good long walk, she hadn't done anything unusual, eaten anything or acted strangely.
I fed both dogs at 6pm, the usual food, the usual amount.  Jennie has a habit of gulping down her dinner very quickly and did so.  Afterwards she did this very odd belch / vomit noise, which worried me but she was licking her lips and wagging her tail so I wasn't overly concerned, and she didn't actually produce any vomit.
At 8pm I went to put Jennie's eye ointment in and I noticed she had a bloated stomach, she was uncomfortable to touch and actually cried out.  Fearing bloat we took her to the emergency vets.  By the time we were there her bloating had gone down though she was still in painful and not enjoying her belly being touched.  The vet wasn't concerned, gave her pain meds and sent us away saying call back if any changes, and come see your usual vet tomorrow.

Monday she was still in pain - she was obviously uncomfortable and paced around quite a lot. So I took her to the vet - she was given a shot of NSAID (rimadyl) and I was told again, keep an eye, she's probably just twisted a muscle or pulled herself somehow. They took bloods to rule out infections / other issues that could appear on bloods (pancreatitis etc). Call back for bloods in the morning.
Tuesday and she's no better - crying out when you touch her, pacing constantly if you let her - called for the bloods, and they weren't back.  Vet gave us tablets of rimadyl to settle her. When she sat she would just cry out in a little rasping whine as she breathed.
Wednesday she went in for x-rays.  X-tays showed up slightly calcified discs (strangely like our older cocker) .  Vet was convinced this was the cause - more rimadyl & muscle relaxers to try and stop her tensing up which they said was the cause of her bloat.  The blood test showed nothing unusual, slightly elevated lipase levels, but nothing that concerned the vet, particularly as nothing else was elevated.
Thursday - Friday - absolutely no better, episodic pain spikes, shaking, licking her lips and swallowing lots as if she's nauseous, lots of pacing and lots of drinking.  Crying out if you touched her abdomen.   The vet prescribed tramadol to try and prevent the 'pain breakthroughs'.
Saturday - no different
Sunday morning - the worst episode of pain yet.  She went to move and started screaming in pain, then she tried to get away from the 'pain' and that hurt more, and then she began shaking and just sat whining for about 5 minutes.  Obviously very distressing for us.
We rang the vet again and ended up taking her down to see a different vet at the same practice.  This 'new' vet was not convinced it was her back, she was convinced it was abdominal and kept her in.  She was then in from Sunday - Tuesday, during which time they have done ultrasounds, more X-rays, more blood tests, an endoscopy and finally opened her up and examined everything ...

They've found nothing.  They have no idea what is wrong, though we are awaiting the blood test results still (including a 'special' set of tests around pancreas function).  They kept her in and gave her IV fluids and a strong painkiller via her IV.
She came home and is on tramadol, rimadyl and norclav anti-b's.  As they found nothing they are hoping that the massive dose of painkillers she had whilst in the surgery, and the anti-b's and continuing pain meds might 'clear up' anything she's had that might be lurking  ph34r
When we picked her up she was incredibly stressed and wet herself, she came home and cowered when we tried to touch her, so we let her just settle in, spoke to her in 'happy voices' and tried to make it easy for her to settle.

At home on Wednesday she wasn't too bad, and seemed more relaxed (but not normal) even wagged her tail a little. She was a little tense and uneasy, but more like her usual self so we were happier at least.

Today she is regressing again.  We've have episodes of breakthrough pain where she yelps when she tries to move, not all the time, just occasionally, can be from a sitting position or a lying. She is yelping again if you touch her, paces around and around if you let her. She will sit in her bed if you tell her too and when she does she's sitting but kinda slouched over, wide sad eyes looking at you full of pain, breathing a little rapid and panting. She doesn't want to be touched and cowers if you try to, no matter where.

Throughout this whole awful ordeal she has continued to eat when offered food, though not with her usual enthusiasm.  She's not had diarrhoea per se, it's been squishy but about the right amount and the right colour, until today when her poop was brownish and hard for about an inch (sorry very descriptive! like she was dehydrated) and then became loose, sticky and the colour of mustard.  She's also not had a temperature (to speak of) with her fluctuating between 38.2 and 38.8c

Currently waiting for a call back from the vet to give an update on her condition and discuss what's next.  Previously we'd been discussing a referral to a specialist - possibly for an MRI or cat scan of a spinal fluid tap.  The vet says theres a slight chance it could be a form of meningitis, particularly if she goes downhill again... which she is... though that's not a diagnosis yet, so I'm not saying thats what it is.

So... has anyone else ever experienced anything like this? Do you have any advice, any words of wisdom.. anything... ??  :'( :'( :huh: :huh:

Kelly & the 3 muskaspaniels x

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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 07:56:45 PM »
I don't really have any words of wisdom for you.  I just want to say how awful for you all. It's painful enough having a sick dog but not having a diagnosis yet is even worse.  Poor Jennie, I really hope a diganosis is made soon and treatment can commence.  Sending you and Jennie a big  :bigarmhug: and I hope things improve very soon  :luv:

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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 07:59:58 PM »
Are they sure it isn't a spinal problem?  Sounds partially like Lylas symptoms.  That starts with just a depressed dog, then an in pain one, then a wobbling one.  Even if it isn't that, an MRI or myelograms can rule it out, including meningitis.  If it is a spinal problem then speed is of the essence.  I hope you get answers because it is awful to see them in such distress :'(
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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 08:01:08 PM »
I am sorry I don't have any advice but just wanted to say how sorry I am for Jennie and hope the vet can soon find out what is wrong and help her.

Thinking of you both and hope that Jennie is well again very soon.

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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 08:02:31 PM »
No words of wisdom from me but heartfelt sympathy and lots of positive thoughts

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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 08:04:53 PM »
I'm sorry I can't really help with any knowledge or similar experience, but just wanted to say how sorry i am that you are all having to go through this, how distressing to see Jennie in pain and not know how to relieve it.  I hope the vets find out asap what the problem is.
Sending you  :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:

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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 08:05:58 PM »
I'm so sorry to hear about what is happening to Jennie. I really hope they figure out what it is soon for her  :luv:
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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 08:10:12 PM »
No advice I'm afraid but lots of  :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: to you and Jennie, I really hope that they find out whats wrong asap  :luv:

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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 08:23:11 PM »
Sorry I can't help with any advice, lots of  :bigarmhug: for you & Jennie, I hope you get answers for her soon.
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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 08:24:06 PM »
I can't offer any advice either, so sorry. I so hope she gets better soon. try to keep your chin up. We will all be rooting for you

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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 08:38:33 PM »
Like everyone else I'm afraid I have no advice but I just wanted to send some healing thoughts to poor little Jennie  :luv: :luv:

It's so awful when our little darlings are distressed and we don't know how to help and I really feel for you.

Hope things get sorted out soon  :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:

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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 08:40:20 PM »
thanks for all your kind words - it's a very unusual case, but there is such a wealth of knowledge (and love! :luv: ) on these boards I thought I'd ask.

@ Sheryl - they aren't sure it isn't spinal (i.e. the discs causing the pain) however she doesn't act like a dog with back pain - she walks fine when encouraged (or during her pacing) the pain doesn't happen at a particular movement or after standing/sitting/lying down, she isn't hunched up and to top it off tramadol doesn't seem to be helping, which we've been told is the best painkiller for 'bone' related pain - whatever that means
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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 08:41:59 PM »
So sorry to hear about Jennie :luv: Hope you get answers soon.
Sending lots of healing thoughts and  :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: for you both.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 08:44:32 PM »
This sounds so traumatic for you all...just wanted to send you my best wishes and positive thoughts . Linda
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Re: distressed & 'in pain'
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 08:47:48 PM »
Hope you are feeling better soon Jennie and the vets get to the bottom of it.
Sarah :bigarmhug: